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Looks like Eurogamer wants their avg/time per page to go up by having readers read the 2 pages of text. lol

Nothing wrong with scores.

If Eurogamer really wants their reviews to be representable, why not have a game be reviewed by 5 or 10 gaming staff instead of one person? Getting a pool of opinions is better than one single person.
 
What? They don't believe in putting a number onto the subjective value of a game? How will people survive?
 
Gamebryo is a solid game engine. Yeah it has quirky physics and on consoles it can have a mediocre frame rate sometimes (it must hit the teens when it's a clusterfuk of stuff going on), but it makes up for it with awesome scale and visuals.

Looking back, Fallout 3 still had among the best atmospheres. Not talking art style, but just wandering the landscape and looking around at various times of the day/night cycle and seieng things far into the horizon you could walk to. ES games are similar, but Fallout 3's more modern era gives way to more variety of structures.

If Gamebryo is going to live on, they just have to tidy up bugginess and improve the physics/animations somehow. The scale and variety is there. It's difficult because the game has so much variety of slopes, terrain and character models that it would take a lot to make sure it all looks right.

Not surprising that all characters and monsters have that glossy ice skating effect going up and down angles/stairs.

True indeed. But can they actually come with impressive lighting with such an old engine? I mean...you'd think they can upgrade this engine only so far? But yeah, animations really need to change.
 
What's really odd is the way gamers seemed to be conditioned to perfer "7" to "Recommended"

Which of those two is the better single descriptor?

I think since most gamers are male, it could be tied into the facts that guys like their numbered lists.
 
Not sure I agree with their rationale. If the primary objection to review scores is that they over-simplify the assessment, how is substituting a three-point version for a ten-point version better? They are trading a numerical summary with a fair amount of range (8.5 vs. 9.0, for instance) for a simple three-category summary. Isn't that moving farther in the direction that they are trying to get away from (of simplistic messages about a game, that is)?
From what I read, what they are doing with the three point system is simplifying the "review score" aspect as to force you to read the actual summary and review of the game, and in that sense, they are getting rid of the oversimplification that is Metacritic scores. And new system is also intended to protect game makers and publishers who are vulnerable to score affecting their stocks.
 
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People can say whatever they want, bugs or not, you will play whatever they tell you to. People played through the pos ps3 version of skyrim and moaned, still loved it. Point is, bitch and cry all you want, your still playing it. There's no point in even acting like you won't. There will be issues with whatever they release, and probably a ton of them. :)

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People can say whatever they want, bugs or not, you will play whatever they tell you to. People played through the pos ps3 version of skyrim and moaned, still loved it. Point is, b**** and cry all you want, your still playing it. There's no point in even acting like you won't. There will be issues with whatever they release, and probably a ton of them. :)

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Yup, i had a cousin mention the PC version of Skyrim the other day. He said don't experience it or you'll never be able to go back to the 360 version. I said yeah, at least it's not the PS3 version. He said very true. :laugh:
 
Yup, i had a cousin mention the PC version of Skyrim the other day. He said don't experience it or you'll never be able to go back to the 360 version. I said yeah, at least it's not the PS3 version. He said very true. :laugh:

god I can't even finish the mean story in the 360 version with all the side stuff you can do and hell I may never finish it. You add mods and crap I won't ever do anything.
 
User scoring systems can be useful, or they can be complete garbage. Look at any book or music CD on Amazon. The user reviews will tend to be super positive. Why? Because we know what kind of things we like and tend to gravitate towards those. If I liked the first 3 albums from a particular music group, chances are album 4 isn't going to be a massive letdown (there are exceptions of course). The 4+ star rating isn't a sample of the random population.

On the flip side, try buying a wifi router off Amazon based only on user scores. They all have a ton of negative reviews. People buy them and can't figure them out and give them 1 star reviews. You have to read through some user posts to see that the majority of the 1 star reviews are people who just have no clue. Just read a bunch of 1 star reviews for any piece of technology and tell me what those ratings are worth.

That's even with a large number of ratings that can possibly have some statistical significance. In a game review, you're asking one person to give a specific rating to their experience. It is just so arbitrary. Ask me to rate my next gen games on a scale of 1-10 and I bet the games I rate higher aren't the ones I spent the most time playing. Isn't the game I spend the most time playing the one I really like best?

You have to read the text and look for patterns. If people making negative comments keep repeating the same things, there might be something there. To make an informed decision, you usually have to dig way beyond the 8.7 score and see what people are actually saying.

HA I like your router exp as with tech reviews are damn near worthless sometimes. People will say this router is a POS and their comparing it to a $150 and they paid $40 for it. good tech reviews are hard to find.

Exp I got a d-link and most folks were put WRT on it but the defuilt interface is fine and fits my needs but many think it's crap.
 
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Fallout 4 is a very safe assumption and one of the announcements I'm looking forward to at e3 this year, but the announcement of a Dishonored 2 would be SO sweet.

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I hope fallout 4 gets announced this year, loved fallout 3 and new vegas and cant wait for fallout 4. also rage 2 would be awesome as i loved the first rage, been playing in on my pc lately. I would love a skyrim remaster for the new consoles but i doubt that would happen.
 
Fallout 4 is a very safe assumption and one of the announcements I'm looking forward to at e3 this year, but the announcement of a Dishonored 2 would be SO sweet.

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I'd almost be good with getting Dishonored 2 because the first game was great. But at this point i think it's Fallout 4 or bust. It just needs to happen.
 
I'd almost be good with getting Dishonored 2 because the first game was great. But at this point i think it's Fallout 4 or bust. It just needs to happen.

Yeah, i mean, Fallout 4 is basically a given ya know? its gonna be there, I wasn't suggesting I'd want a Dishonored 2 announcement in place of Fallout 4, just saying that if Dishonored 2 was also announced, that'd be some of the best news from their conference for me...

One thing I hope happens though is that they make the game feel tighter & more polished as far as the feel of it as a shooter. I know it's an RPG first and foremost, but if you have a first person game with guns, I just want it to feel more responsive than Fallout 3 did for me (didn't really play new vegas). My dream would be that they have some of the guys from iD help out with making the shooter based aspect feel more intuitive.
 
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It's either Fallout or a brand new IP similar to Fallout? But i don;t think that makes sense, people want Fallout and Beth knows that.
 
This is sad :sad:

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Japanese mobile company Nepro Japan has announced that they are acquiring tri-Ace as subsidiary. They will be acquiring all tri-Ace shares through a cash buyout, and will refocus the developer towards mobile efforts (smartphones and tablets). tri-Ace was a privately held company, so it's interesting to see the ownership breakdown in the announcement:

Yoshiharu Gotanda holds 555 shares (30.8%), Masaki Norimoto holds 546 shares (30.3%), and Kenji Goshima holds 511 shares (28.4%). In the cash buy-out, they will each gets about a million bucks each, and they will each also get 18,300 shares of Nepro each (worth about 1500yen per share right now).



 
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If this doesn't mean a Fallout 4 announcement, I'll lose faith in everything I once loved.
 
Makes sense really. Review scores are just arbitrary numbers. Pass or Fail.
 
It's either Fallout or a brand new IP similar to Fallout? But i don;t think that makes sense, people want Fallout and Beth knows that.

I doubt they'd spend all that money to buy the IP, and then just make a separate IP in the same vein...
 
Whatever they are planning, I know one thing. You don't get your own booth for the first time to show off Elder Scrolls Online.
 
If you hit a wall after a whopping 800 hours, then I say there is honestly nothing that can be done about that. I never played the game, but I lost interest in buying it after I found out how misleading the advertisement and promotion for the game was.

Exactly. That statement is comical. Games like this bring out the OCD completionist in everyone. I mean, 800 hours -> $60 game. (plus expansion assuming). You won. Go play something else until the next expansion.

I'm level 21 on my main character and I got my $60 worth already.
 
It's going to be a whole event dedicated to the new Doom.

It ends with a giant photo of Carmack on a big screen with the caption, 'LOL!'
 
Still going strong. Iron Banner re-rolls and Gjallarhorn hunt keeping me going.

Me too!

Have a Titan & Warlock at lvl32. And now I'm working on a Hunter who I took from lvl20-27 with all the gear I had stored. At this point I'm not sure I want to know how much time I put into Destiny but its still fun.
 
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