Something i really noticed after watching Sony's E3
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Actually, its just E3 hype. People are excited and as well they should be. However, you have a tendency to believe in your own hyperbowl and its scaring me.... Like, you really believe the crap that spills from your vocal chords. Thats.......thats some scary s***.
Do you know what in engine footage means? It doesn't matter. Your point is irrelevant when the game looks better than everything MS has.
On Sony's stage? Yes, it means "don't count on the game looking anywhere near this good when it ships, oh - and it'll ship late!"
Eh, I think Battlefront looks better...
But in either case, you're actually completely incorrect.
The point I've made has no reliance or logical connection to MS's showing at all. It's completely self-contained.
Sony/ND showed a UC4 trailer which was not at all representative of what the game is ending up looking like. It had higher image quality (significantly), significantly more advanced lighting, and it ran at TWICE the frame rate of what they showed just a couple days ago, which was more than a year AFTER the initial unveil.
No, my point is still valid. UC was downgraded. Significantly. Who's to say ND's finished with the downgrades?
Wait till' it ships, I say... wait till' it ships.
LOL Flynn just stop, KZ Shadowfall is a launch game and looks better than the new Halo, those guys know graphics, you keep bringing up these stupid things from the distant past and it just makes you look petty. BTW when it comes to PS4 the games have all met the preview quality if not exceeded it, Shadowfall, The Order, Infamous, Driveclub, they all looked just as good, if not better than the preview builds that were shown. Nobody can deny that a long time ago Sony pulled what was really a crappy move but you have to get over it at some point.
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I don't know if you noticed this too but on the 360 the best looking games were generally 3rd party, MS 1st party studios rarely pushed out the best looking games. The only one I can even think of was Forza 4, it wasn't my cup of tea but it looked great. Halo was always average looking, Fable had a nice art style but never looked amazing and the frame rate was awful in the 3rd game. The best looking games on the console like Gears of War came from outside studios.
I agree that the original U4 reveal has a veil of mislead. I do not blame naughty dog though, as it could be an executive decision by Sony management not to clarify the trailer is not realtime.Buying PS4's, Sony wining on sales, or even fans flipping doesn't offend me... it inspires me. It motivates me.
...if you want to offend me, tell me UC4's original trailer was rendered in real-time at 60fps on a PS4. That would offend me. I know that to be false.
...in case I haven't already made that completely obvious.
The evidence are in the description & the follow up statment by the lady that once work for 343. I got a lot of sticks for saying that before (that I just stop referring to anymore).
However, the trailer was already vorbei, its the past. Not meaningful for any meaningful dicussion now we have actual gameplay, & it looks fanastic. It blown everything out of the water. So what if the reveal trailer is not reatime. Also Naughty dog alraedy mention they no longer going for 60fps. Its not like its latest news.
A piece of advice, if you want your comments to be taken serious, & to be fair, you do made some good posts (as long as its not involving Sony or VS), then you need to learn to give credit when its due, & not nitpick on small things or past things & make a mountain out of it.
No offense but I don't think anyone has seen what Battlefront looks like on the XBO.
Buying PS4's, Sony wining on sales, or even fans flipping doesn't offend me... it inspires me. It motivates me.
...if you want to offend me, tell me UC4's original trailer was rendered in real-time at 60fps on a PS4. That would offend me. I know that to be false.
...in case I haven't already made that completely obvious.
Why are you still on the original trailer when we've had two gameplay demos that look amazing?
UC4's original trailer was rendered in real-time at 60fps on a PS4.Buying PS4's, Sony wining on sales, or even fans flipping doesn't offend me... it inspires me. It motivates me.
...if you want to offend me, tell me UC4's original trailer was rendered in real-time at 60fps on a PS4. That would offend me. I know that to be false.
...in case I haven't already made that completely obvious.
Err anyone who believed that CGI trailer was in-game is nuts. It wasn't really disingenuous. This generation Sony exclusives have looked better as they continue development. Driveclub,InFamous,The Order,Bloodborne and Killzone all looked better than their initial trailers when they released. Guerilla have already said they will push the tech even more now they have the basis and everything up and running and I believe them as along with ND they are one of the best on tech in the industry. Just face it most Sony exclusives look unbelievable, heck even the new Ratchet looks stunning.
Nah man clearly everything Sony does is a bait and switch, because of a mis understanding of a single trailer 10 years ago that got cleared up in like a week.
I think he has a pretty clear problem of.
Some of you guys have really been hooked by the emotional branding tactics of today's consumer products. It's a well known tactic that is studied and utilized by all of your favorite brands. The reality is, there is nothing that really differentiates these products anymore, as things have become more and more homogenized. It's fun to cheer-lead and pick sides, but many of you guys have taken it to unhealthy levels. We should be celebrating games (this really is an amazing time to be a gamer) and not spending so much time tearing down one persons preferences or completely dismissing and downplaying handfuls of games just because they are on a system you either chose not to own or cant afford. Of course these corporations want and breed this fanboy-ism as it is the only thing that keeps their brands relevant and individualized. So go ahead and have some fun, but lets not be blind to the reality and fool ourselves into thinking the illusion is real.
I reckon! its a great time to be a gamer, the range is huge now days, we have games from being a anamorphic cup in a cartoon to hunting robot dinosaurs with bows and arrows.
I hate to interrupt the nonsense that was the last half of this thread, but I have to say now that I see that the trailer for recore specified the "makers of Metroid Prime" - which I think is a bit of a stretch based on what I know so far, but I'm just now watching the interview with Inafune so I'll leave it at that.
And everyone, seriously, just enjoy your system(s) and game(s) of choice and let people who don't go.
I can see where you are coming from, cause yeah that Killzone 2 stuff was prety bad back then. But after that, during the PS3 era, i don't recall much downgrades for the Uncharted games from reveal footage to released game. Unless i am wrong. Same with Killzone 3, i think the reveal was pretty on par with the released game?
Uncharted 4 last year during PSX did not look like that E3 2014 reveal, agreed. That almost looked photorealistic. The PSX demo seemed to lack a lot of graphical effects, that graphical punch so to speak. Except for really cool foliage movement, it lacked the wow effect, but this new footage looked incredible. Maybe not the photorealistic look of E3 2014, but a lot better than the PSX footage. A serious question, do you question the new Uncharted 4 footage? After all they do say ''captured from a PS4.'' and that goes for Horizon as well, captured from a PS4 it says. If when the games come out and DF does a thorough analysis, or not even nessecarily DF, but it looks significantly worse, that would be a real bad look on Sony and i don't think that's their intention. I am positive a s***load of folks will still buy it and love it, cause everyone and their mother nowadays is hyped about PS4, lol.
I can't deny that, even though i was incredibly blown away by Horizon, me and my friend did start to talk about the positbility that this was on a high end PC, cause it just looks that goddamn good. Basically i am not 100% believing i yet and its always a good thing to just take the wait and see approach. That said.....
I agree with McMasters that MS could take some things from Sony's book on how they do things. What i personally REALLY like about Sony, is that they let their studios make other IP's as well. They could have went with Killzone 5,but instead GG get's to make a completely different thing and see how it pays off. Same with ND, they got to make The Last of Us...what a gem of a game that was/is. Microsoft......343i, definitely talented folks, only making Halo games. Hardcore Halo fans may not agree with this, but there is something called ''too much of Halo.'' i would love it if MS let's 343 develop something diffrent after Halo 5 but i just don't believe that will happen.
Or take Black Tusk that changed into The Coalition. They now want you to think of Gears when you hear this developer's name. I don't like it personally. Are we going to get a ton of Gears games after 4? However, kudos to Microsoft for bringing new names to the table as well with Scalebound, Quantum Break AND Recore. Oh and cannot forget about Sea of Thieves, new IP too, even though i am not yet too excited about it. But that's also because i was so goddamn hungry for a Banjo 3. Like i said before, i love Xbox and i really dig Microsoft's ways when it comes to Xbox Live, the UI, just everything. Their way of presenting shows and all that stuff. So naturally i want to be amazed by their content. The way i was amazed when Sony showed Horizon and Uncharted 4, boy i would have LOVED to be that amazed with the Gears 4 reveal or any of their exclusives. I'll say it again, apart from some cool things in the Gears 4 footage...i was underwhelmed. The faces really didn't look all that impressive, sure a lot better than the 360 games but i expect more of Unreal Engine 4. But i am just gonna take the wait and see approach with this one.It's so crystal clear how much this is a WIP project.
Now i am looking forward to Gamescom, cause unless i am mistaken..we are gonna get gameplay of Scalebound and Crackdown, f***ing finally. Hopefully Recore get's its proper gameplay reveal (hopefully they let this be in development long enough for it to be a truly AAA game) and more Quantum Break is never a bad thing. Who knows, it might even look better now too.
Not sure if you will get Scalebound game-play. QB and Recore seem to be a lock for game-play footage.
MS said they will be revealing a new IP. Not sure if that is singular or plural, though.
No but push up on thumbstick, watch world dance in front of you games really do suck.
Not sure if you were talking about me, cause i certainly wasn't tearing down anyone's press conference. I said that i was disappointed MS didn't bring the sick graphics, but that i AM looking forward to plenty of their games and that it's not over yet. Gamescom is on the way. I also said that at the end of the day gamers win and nobody else. I was just basically explaining how i experienced this E3 and my thoughts on it, as someone who highly prefers Xbox BUT not that much that i ignore anything from the competition.
Phil Spencer said Scalebound, QB and Crackdown were removed from the E3 planning so they can shine during Gamescom. I believe those were almost his words too, really giving Scalebound and Crackdown some attention. So Scalebound is a given, no way they are gonna throw out another CG trailer. I am fully expecting gameplay my friend, and many people along with me expect it. That brand new IP, it's possible that it will be a CG trailer. That just seems to be how MS handles those things. What do you mean with singular and plural?
I hope you're right. Scalebound sounds interesting.
As for Recore, you posted the interview yourself, that states their plans. MS will not stop them, why would they? The game releases befor next E3, and as far as I am aware, Gamescom is the last sizeable & highly covered Western gameshow this year.
That just seems to be how MS handles those things. What do you mean with singular and plural?
As in new IP reveal/s. Phil Spencer they would have something.
http://www.twinfinite.net/2015/06/15/scalebound-and-more-to-be-shown-at-gamescom/
gamescom is going to be something to look forward to. Finally a real look on these awesome sounding games.
Pretty much. KZ might look better but we all know what game will play better, even 343 can't make a game as terrible as KZ:SF gameplay wise.
Forza 5 reveal versus the actual launched game?
