The 2016 United States Presidential Election Thread. v. 2

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waiting to see a hastily written note from Trump's lawyer stating that the Donald pays his taxes
All Colin has done is bring attention to himself. He has done nothing to advance discussion on the issue he was protesting.
I have nothing against CK but would like to point out that perhaps when you have everything you take some things for granted and when you grew up having nothing you don't take anything for granted. Even when it's not your own

 
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It's also your right to take those millions of dollars and fly to another country and live there if you don't like living here.

So you can only say America's not great and try to "Make America Great Again" if you're white, but if you're not, just get out? Got it.
 
Pledging allegiance to a flag is stupid.

It is also annoying to secular people or non-monotheist people pledging to One Nation Under God. I'm also not sure how this is squared with the separation of Church and State.

Aside from that, in many cases I think black people, other minorities, or poor whites have been unfairly targeted to fill quotas for until recently, for-profit prisons.
 
So you can only say America's not great and try to "Make America Great Again" if you're white, but if you're not, just get out? Got it.
That is actually a very good point.

Edit: Ah this point is making the social media rounds now.
 
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Pledging allegiance to a flag is stupid.

It is also annoying to secular people or non-monotheist people pledging to One Nation Under God. I'm also not sure how this is squared with the separation of Church and State.

Aside from that, in many cases I think black people, other minorities, or poor whites have been unfairly targeted to fill quotas for until recently, for-profit prisons.
National anthem not the pledge of allegiance.
 
Pledging allegiance to a flag is stupid.

It is also annoying to secular people or non-monotheist people pledging to One Nation Under God. I'm also not sure how this is squared with the separation of Church and State.

Aside from that, in many cases I think black people, other minorities, or poor whites have been unfairly targeted to fill quotas for until recently, for-profit prisons.
Well the pledge of allegiance and the national anthem are two different things.
"One Nation under God" was only added in the past 50 years to the POA
The Anthem does not refer to any god as far as I know.
But yea youre right. Both are overplayed or overdone to the point of not really being powerful.
It's like some crazy girl saying " I love you!" all the time. It starts to get meaningless.
Edit: I see Super Mod beat me to it
 
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Well the pledge of allegiance and the national anthem are two different things.
"One Nation under God" was only added in the past 50 years to the POA
The Anthem does not refer to any god as far as I know.
But yea youre right. Both are overplayed or overdone to the point of not really being powerful.
It's like some crazy girl saying " I love you!" all the time. It starts to get meaningless.
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Trump will be in Mexico for 50 minutes. You think that is enough to time to build that wall to keep him out?
 
Guess I'll vote for Johnson. I've never voted independent or libertarian before, which is kind of weird, because I'm an independent and libertarian type person. I guess I always considered it a wasted vote.

But this time, it's either vote independent or don't vote at all. I couldn't bring myself to pull the lever for either of these two characters. Johnson's platform is pretty appealing to me. I really don't know much about him -- just scanned his wiki page -- but I like what I saw. I don't think he'll win, but at least I won't have to feel forced into voting for someone I have no confidence in.
 
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Guess I'll vote for Johnson. I've never voted independent or libertarian before, which is kind of weird, because I'm an independent and libertarian type person. I guess I always considered it a wasted vote.

But this time, it's either vote independent or don't vote at all. I couldn't bring myself to pull the lever for either of these two characters. Johnson's platform is pretty appealing to me. I really don't know much about him -- just scanned his wiki page -- but I like what I saw. I don't think he'll win, but at least I won't have to feel forced into voting for someone I have no confidence in.
Eff that. Gary Johnson is a longtime Republican parading around as a Libertarian and is totally backed and funded by the Koch Brothers who started that stupid party (a thinly veiled Tea Party in disguise) in the first place.
 
Got a robo-call last night for the Presidential election. I chose Johnson with hopes of helping him get the needed 15% to be on the debates. They will be so much more entertaining with him on there (even if he doesn't stand a chance).
 
Eff that. Gary Johnson is a longtime Republican parading around as a Libertarian and is totally backed and funded by the Koch Brothers who started that stupid party (a thinly veiled Tea Party in disguise) in the first place.

I don't think or vote along party lines, so that doesn't mean much to me.
 
All Colin has done is bring attention to himself. He has done nothing to advance discussion on the issue he was protesting.

Honestly I don't care one way or the other if he stands or not, it's his right to do what he wants. My thing is if you are going to "protest" and you are a person of financial means than you should be out there actively trying to change what it is you think is wrong, not just sitting down or making a song about it (which makes even more money for you) and leaving it at that. People in that position need to start recruiting young people with character to run for office and backing them financially so they can help make change from within. What he's doing now isn't going to change anyone's mind who doesn't already agree or disagree with his position so it's really just a waste.
 
I don't think or vote along party lines, so that doesn't mean much to me.
He wants to much deregulation... pretty much everything. The kind that would make cases like Flint Michigan a common occurrence. Tha alone is enough to not vote for him.
 
Honestly I don't care one way or the other if he stands or not, it's his right to do what he wants. My thing is if you are going to "protest" and you are a person of financial means than you should be out there actively trying to change what it is you think is wrong, not just sitting down or making a song about it (which makes even more money for you) and leaving it at that. People in that position need to start recruiting young people with character to run for office and backing them financially so they can help make change from within. What he's doing now isn't going to change anyone's mind who doesn't already agree or disagree with his position so it's really just a waste.

He could donate money to the SF police for body cams. It would make a bigger difference than what he's doing.

Maybe these entertainers and athletes could come together and do something meaningful instead of individually disrespecting entities and people that have nothing to do with the injustices in the first place.
 
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He wants to much deregulation... pretty much everything. The kind that would make cases like Flint Michigan a common occurrence. Tha alone is enough to not vote for him.

Even if he got into office (which isn't going to happen, so this is sort of academic), he wouldn't be able to unilaterally deregulate everything. He'd face opposition from both parties, not to mention all the vested interest groups. I'd be surprised if he got 10% of what he wanted. It's not like he'd have a party in congress or the senate behind him. He'd have to win them over. If you look at his state record, he did a great job fiscally, but I just know the political machine was not happy with him. He's not the kind of figure that a bunch of republicans and democrats are going to rally around. That's why he's independent in the first place.

Anyhow, I'll continue to read more about him as we get closer to erection day. All I know is that I don't trust or respect either Hillary or Trump, and I can't in good conscience vote for either of them. So for me, it's basically a choice between skipping the election and finding an alternative I can vote for.
 
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Even if he got into office (which isn't going to happen, so this is sort of academic), he wouldn't be able to unilaterally deregulate everything. He'd face opposition from both parties, not to mention all the vested interest groups. I'd be surprised if he got 10% of what he wanted. It's not like he'd have a party in congress or the senate behind him. He'd have to win them over. If you look at his state record, he did a great job fiscally, but I just know the political machine was not happy with him. He's not the kind of figure that a bunch of republicans and democrats are going to rally around. That's why he's independent in the first place.

Anyhow, I'll continue to read more about him as we get closer to erection day. All I know is that I don't trust or respect either Hillary or Trump, and I can't in good conscience vote for either of them. So for me, it's basically a choice between skipping the election and finding an alternative I can vote for.
You can always write in.
 
Wish we could just all get together and write in Neil Degrasse Tyson.
 
Guliani Is wearing a "Make Mexico Great Again Also" hat while talking about Trump building the wall.... What an assclown.
 
Trump claims they didn't talk about "The Wall" and who's paying for it. Nieto says yes they did. He can't stop lying even a half hour after leaving a "meeting." Lol
 
20 minutes into Trumps immigration "policy" diatribe and there's absolutely zero "policy" discussion. Once again, he's a wrestler on the mic trying to get a pop from the crowd. Let's see if there any policy talk in the second half?
 
Lmfao. "We're gonna build a wall and Mexico is gonna pay for it." This guy has no clue absolutely none. He has no clue about technology. Claims Mexico will willingly work with him. He just s*** all over Mexico and the president. This is so sad and delusional.
 
Well, facts don't matter to Trump today and everyday. Factcheck is going to have a fun time with this wrestler on a mic.

Criminal aliens mean ALL illegal aliens since there's criminals since they're here illegally.
 
I don't know how someone who says nothing, lies through his false teeth, has an extremely limited vocabulary, uses words that simply don't exist, can get a "pop" from the crowd. They must be complete morons. Utter morons. Believe me, bigly morons.
 
Again, he simply doesn't care, or doesn't know, a single thing about how refugees enter this country. Absolutely none. But, morons in the crowd eat it up.
 
"We are going to mine the moon good, tremendously good. We're going to mine it like its not been mined before, mined amazingly bigly good. And, the best part the Aliens from Planet 9 are going to pay for it."
 
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