The other possibility is that a few relatively smaller titles going multiplat is strategic as the precursor to another large acquisition.
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The thing with this is, it's a 1 way street. We know Nintendo and Sony aren't going to bring any games over to Xbox. Even the more niche ones.
What is not a rumor is that Phil Spencer confirmed last month that they are not a third party publisher.
"But anytime you're growing a platform, there's always this trade off with games. We're not a third-party publisher, right, we do something different with our content like Starfield, but not all the content. Obviously Minecraft ships on other platforms."
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The other thing that doesn't really make sense here is that this isn't something that just pops up out of nowhere. I find it highly unlikely that this wouldn't have been revealed during the Activision trial given all the other info that was leaked. It's also the kind of thing that would have really strengthened MS' case.
They'll prob let s*** like a sequel to the Elder Scrolls mmo go multiplatform and keep the big single-player focused games stay console exclusive to drive Gamepass.
But what the f*** do I know, I'm just a semi intelligent (debatable), random dude.
But what the f*** do I know, I'm just a semi intelligent (debatable), random dude.
So all that just to say I'm dumb.
Xbox's strategy is and has been clear for years. It is called Game Pass. Every studio purchase, every game made is done so with the sol intent of growing Game Pass.
Put some crumbs on competing platforms and try to entice new consumers to your 'not locked to hardware' service.
Also, "Try to serve everyone, you end up serving no one." Is such a dumb quote.
Yes. It wasn’t long ago the deal was still in jeopardy.
The last rumor I heard is that it’s Psychonauts 2 to PS5, so who knows anyway.
My guess, this topic will get more coverage by media and gamers and then any PlayStation or Switch 2 articles and threads for the 2024 year of our savior Tesla CyberTruck
To be fair, outside of my Samsung Galaxy, my windows phone was by far the best phone I ever had.
Yup, some good points being made. If you're trying to expand to other platforms then why are they taking away Playstation platform access from Redfall and Starfield when the games are 1-2 years away from launch and was in the plans for it.
You say Google and Amazon are the main competitors and PS and Nintendo are not your main competitors anymore a few years ago yet your actions say otherwise. Both platforms would exponentially grow sales and number of players to Xbox IPs if that is what they are truly going for - platformless third party service to increase gaming revenue.
I think Xbox is trying to find growth elsewhere as their console base has stagnated as mentioned by Phil and we see how expensive maintaining Gamepass ($1 billion plus last year?) is plus spending almost $80 billion in just 2 years is a lot. I'm sure their accounting department would like to see some green anyway they can. Also doesn't help when a large portion of the Gamepass userbase uses the service to play "free" games than purchase them. We see Nintendo and Playstation consumers definitely buy more on the software side.
With how huge the Switch is why wouldn’t MS/Sony want some of their games that can run on Nintendo’s console/handheld. Win for everyone.
If GamePass ever hits Switch/Switch 2 that would be yuge and Sony would feel the hit.
If GamePass ever hits Switch/Switch 2 that would be yuge and Sony would feel the hit.
Yes, at the first paragraph. But with how big some of their games are they may not fit, how big is cod on mobile?
Second….they could easily get GamePass if they just added a streaming app or a web browser. My guess is if it were to be a thing it’d only be every game under the Xbox (including Bethesda And ABK) banner and maybe special cases with certain third parties.
A reminder as to what Phil said about more ports to non Xbox consoles:
“Where does that leave the prospect of more Xbox games coming to non-Xbox consoles? Spencer told me that “it doesn’t feel sustainable” to consider Xbox games on a case by case basis for Switch and said, “In order to really support it, I would want a full Xbox ecosystem somewhere. And that probably means things like Live and Game Pass and stuff.”
“Where does that leave the prospect of more Xbox games coming to non-Xbox consoles? Spencer told me that “it doesn’t feel sustainable” to consider Xbox games on a case by case basis for Switch and said, “In order to really support it, I would want a full Xbox ecosystem somewhere. And that probably means things like Live and Game Pass and stuff.”
Xbox is profitable, Game Pass is profitable. That $80 billion? They still have it. But now they are making money on it. I think what you are missing is that they moved the $80 billion from their short term assets (credit), and debited long term assets for $80 billion. Not only do they still have that asset, but now that asset generates billions more in revenue (which includes profits). The cash asset was already profit, so they incurred no debt and lost no asset.
So not only will they make that cash back in spades and debit cash short term assets again, they still have the $80 billion long term asset.
Watch MS hit $4 trillion in the few years. They are already at $2.7 trillion.
Now look at Sony and PS. Look at the narrowing profit margin Sony has with PS and the increasing profits that Xbox is experiencing while giving gamers a great value in Game Pass including day one first party games and more first party games ever in the history of Xbox.
If Hi Fi Rush goes to Switch, that is even more cash assets for Xbox, giving them more revenue to invest even more into the Xbox ecosystem and produce more AAA quality exclusives.
Xbox is profitable, Game Pass is profitable. That $80 billion? They still have it. But now they are making money on it. I think what you are missing is that they moved the $80 billion from their short term assets (credit), and debited long term assets for $80 billion. Not only do they still have that asset, but now that asset generates billions more in revenue (which includes profits). The cash asset was already profit, so they incurred no debt and lost no asset.
So not only will they make that cash back in spades and debit cash short term assets again, they still have the $80 billion long term asset.
Watch MS hit $4 trillion in the few years. They are already at $2.7 trillion.
Now look at Sony and PS. Look at the narrowing profit margin Sony has with PS and the increasing profits that Xbox is experiencing while giving gamers a great value in Game Pass including day one first party games and more first party games ever in the history of Xbox.
If Hi Fi Rush goes to Switch, that is even more cash assets for Xbox, giving them more revenue to invest even more into the Xbox ecosystem and produce more AAA quality exclusives.
Even if what you say is true in any way, why not let those cash assets in Zenimax and Activision get even more revenue by allowing the studios to release on multiplatform like originally planned if maximal money and revenue is what they are going after ? MS says a lot out to the public but the FTC trial leaks and internal emails also says a lot more behind the scenes.
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And it’s not WHAT IF I said was true. It is true. I’m a controller for Hilton Corporation. That is just accounting 101 as to how assets and acquisitions work. We did the same thing when we acquired Promus and other companies.
As Phil has said, Xbox is their core for gaming and their focus is Xbox gamers.
And it’s not WHAT IF I said was true. It is true. I’m a controller for Hilton Corporation. That is just accounting 101 as to how assets and acquisitions work. We did the same thing when we acquired Promus and other companies.
Xbox is becoming more and more platform agnostic with the focus shifted onto including PC now (which I like). I believe their expansion into other platforms is almost inevitable as they would like to keep growing.
Gamepass streaming works great for me through my phone on my mobile carrier with a Bluetooth controller, it's a no brainer solution for switch imo.
Tough luck for you amerikans with your horrendous 4G/5G coverage and (I presume) data caps though.
Tough luck for you amerikans with your horrendous 4G/5G coverage and (I presume) data caps though.
So......if this little piggy goes to Town and changes into this little piggy, this little piggy earns more money.Xbox is profitable, Game Pass is profitable. That $80 billion? They still have it. But now they are making money on it. I think what you are missing is that they moved the $80 billion from their short term assets (credit), and debited long term assets for $80 billion. Not only do they still have that asset, but now that asset generates billions more in revenue (which includes profits). The cash asset was already profit, so they incurred no debt and lost no asset.
So not only will they make that cash back in spades and debit cash short term assets again, they still have the $80 billion long term asset.
Watch MS hit $4 trillion in the few years. They are already at $2.7 trillion.
Now look at Sony and PS. Look at the narrowing profit margin Sony has with PS and the increasing profits that Xbox is experiencing while giving gamers a great value in Game Pass including day one first party games and more first party games ever in the history of Xbox.
If Hi Fi Rush goes to Switch, that is even more cash assets for Xbox, giving them more revenue to invest even more into the Xbox ecosystem and produce more AAA quality exclusives.
Yeah. I paired my XSS controller up to an old Samsung Galaxy S8. Played Horizon 5, Dead Cells, and Powerwash Simulator. All worked great.
Yup. They are focused on Xbox consoles, Microsoft Windows PC, Game Pass, iOS, Android and streaming devices like TV, using xCloud. They are not focused on PlayStation or Nintendo for their products and services. There is a reason Phil has said this over and over.
No not focused but there is a growing interest it seems now with all these smoke of porting Xbox IPs to other platforms and comments from Xbox CFO regarding Nintendo and PlayStation platforms. Even Phil told Famitsu last year, they want to include Nintendo and Sony into the Xbox family.
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We will just have to agree to disagree on this subject. Also, Phil did want to see Sony and Nintendo part of the Xbox family, but said that they won't because Sony and Nintendo won't allow Game Pass on their respective consoles. Phil would like to be able to have a Game Pass app on PS and Nintendo to stream Game Pass games.
Hmm. I guess we will see if the new port is on Gamepass or native. If it's native , perhaps that is also another path for Xbox they are considering.
Personally, I hope we see Hi-Fi Rush hit the Switch. It's a perfect fit for that console and demographic. I don't think streaming that game to the Switch would be good because of the music pattern.