The End of the World: A Political Thread. A New Hope coming soon!
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Bernie needs to go IMHO. He couldn't beat Hillary in 2016. He's got just enough followers to make an impact, but not to win. He's just a spoiler, and if people want someone more left leaning to win, he needs to get out.
He never will of course, but he could step aside and let someone else emerge to challenge Biden.
He never will of course, but he could step aside and let someone else emerge to challenge Biden.
I'm pretty surprised how low he is in the polls. Hard to picture how he wins.
Personality and charisma shouldn't matter all that much, but they really do. He's still got a loyal group that go with him, but they aren't expanding, and it isn't surprising people are jumping ship.
I don't mean to offend Bernie supporters. I've followed him on twitter and I like him, I just don't "run for president like him". If that makes sense.
Bernie is just Bernie and he's doing the exact same things from years ago. He's changed nothing that I can see from 2016, so what is going to be different this time around other than he has a lot tougher competition?
The DNC and superdelegates rules plus a seeming favoritism for Hillary last time? Bernie wants a fairshot at the Primary?
All of those polling under 1% have no shot, they should all do the right thing and drop out now.
DNC Bias towards HRC's campaign when it came to scheduling debates, lack of any media coverage of the Dems at all until Trump locked up the Republican nomination and more had the most to do with it.
Bernie got crushed in the debates against Hillary. She was able to trip him up so easily. He'd get eaten alive in a general election.
Bernie's an idealist. I respect that, but we need a pragmatist to actually win elections.
Remember Obama in 2008 came out against gay marriage. He knew it would be a tough issue for him at that time and might cost him a lot of votes.
When I'm talking "politics" I'm really talking strategy. Just get me to the man/woman who can beat Trump. I'm not even really talking the issues, unfortunately beating Trump is the only thing right now. People are acting like just showing up against Trump will win, but I think we have a very tough fight on our hands.
Bernie's an idealist. I respect that, but we need a pragmatist to actually win elections.
Remember Obama in 2008 came out against gay marriage. He knew it would be a tough issue for him at that time and might cost him a lot of votes.
When I'm talking "politics" I'm really talking strategy. Just get me to the man/woman who can beat Trump. I'm not even really talking the issues, unfortunately beating Trump is the only thing right now. People are acting like just showing up against Trump will win, but I think we have a very tough fight on our hands.
I don't think he'll stay in it as long this time, people know him more than most of the other candidates right now and he's not even polling second place anymore. It sucks for him because he's worked his entire political life to help the little guy but there are people who have similar positions to him and are better at articulating those positions than he is. I think he should drop out, I think all of those people polling under 1% should drop out and I also think Biden should drop out but none of that will happen. I used to think Biden was the guy who would win in the rustbelt etc but he looked so confused the other night it makes me worry about his age, it's like he had no clue people would attack him and tried to stick to his debate prep and couldn't remember it. His constantly stopping mid-sentence because his time ran out was strange as well. Someone brought up the other day (I forget where) that Biden never does well when debating other Democrats, he's good at debating Republicans but he always flounders against Dems and I think that's true.
I'd argue anyone under Beto. Castro had a good debate so he can justify waiting maybe but nobody else has any business in there.
Are a lot of these people campaigning mostly for their ideals as well as getting the name out there for other positions in the next administration?
Would Bernie happily accept an offer to be Warren's VP for example?
Would Bernie happily accept an offer to be Warren's VP for example?
I think Bernie was in last time only because Warren didn't run and someone had to bring those ideas into the race - and it worked in the sense that HRC ended up shifting some of her campaign in that direction. That's why I might give Inslee a pass into staying a little longer, even though he's essentially worthless as a candidate, since he's at least pushing for something significant that isn't getting addressed strongly right now.
If Hillary picked him as her VP we wouldn't be in this mess. I truly believe that.
I assume most are angling for cabinet spots. Some for VP.
I don't know if there is any indication of whether he would take VP. Can't imagine anyone is going to offer it though. Warren especially.
And yeah Hillary should have picked him
Are you telling me you weren't a rabid thinks for a minute Tim Kaine enthusiast? Why, he was the best Democratic nominee for vice president we've ever had in the post-Obama era.
As far as Bernie, he definitely wouldn't fit with a Warren campaign - they're way too similar, which essentially throws away an opportunity. He'd really only make sense with someone like Klobuchar or some other younger centrist who is female or a minority or both - and that of course assumes they'd want him. I think both he and Biden are in the "Win the nomination or you're not on the ticket" group, while Harris and Mayor Pete right now seem like the most likely VP candidates (and Castro right behind them).
The nominee would need to be real locked in with black voters to pick Pete. He has like negative support among black voters currently.
I think anyone under 0% should be gone. Divine intervention would be needed to move up the polls let alone win the nomination. Just give it up.
As for Bernie, while I was a fan of his last time I was really hoping he wouldn't even run. I think there is still a lot of bad blood from 2016 that if he doesn't win the nomination and there's even a hint of foul play, that his supporters will cause issues. Bernie did great shifting not only the party in general, but also the 2020 candidates, to the left so for that I am thankful. I just have a bad feeling we're going to see 2016 repeat itself.
As for Bernie, while I was a fan of his last time I was really hoping he wouldn't even run. I think there is still a lot of bad blood from 2016 that if he doesn't win the nomination and there's even a hint of foul play, that his supporters will cause issues. Bernie did great shifting not only the party in general, but also the 2020 candidates, to the left so for that I am thankful. I just have a bad feeling we're going to see 2016 repeat itself.
Fixing the money in politics is easy. Cap individual donations to a set amount, which can vary depending on how high the office goes. Ban any organization/corporate donations. Every donation has to be from a single US citizen. You'd end all the dirty money in politics, end a lot of the awful attack ads that run, and put every single person on an equal standing in democracy.
You shouldn't need a ton of money to run a campaign in modern times anyway.
You shouldn't need a ton of money to run a campaign in modern times anyway.
I don't want Yang or Gabbard to drop out, I want there to be voices supporting UBI and keeping us out of wars in the race for as long as possible. I don't think Booker, O'Rourke, Castro, Klobuchar or anyone else polling under them should stay in the race other than the two I have already mentioned. Castro sounded good when it comes to immigration on the surface but his stumble when he wasn't clear about TS abortion gave a lot of people fuel to say he thinks trans women can get pregnant. He said afterwards he was talking about people who have transitioned from women to men but with a few crazies out there talking about trans men to women being able to get pregnant lately he was immediately lumped in with that group.
They need to talk about something other than immigration next time, I know the moderators wanted to stay on that because it's the hot issue going on right now but if all our candidates talk about is people from other countries it's going to turn off the people here who can actually vote for them.
They need to talk about something other than immigration next time, I know the moderators wanted to stay on that because it's the hot issue going on right now but if all our candidates talk about is people from other countries it's going to turn off the people here who can actually vote for them.
He should go a step further and be for banning every contribution that isn't from "democracy dollars"
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