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The orange s***stain is taking credit, personal credit, for capturing ISIS.
 
Plainview said:
I thought it happened after? I could have sworn her comment was before Biden's? I could be wrong.

Edit: She struck first.

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I forgot the "You did a great job at your job" was separate from the "I went out on the floor and got you votes." On the plus side, I guess he's already assuming Warren's winning and starting to take credit for what she got done too. ;)
 
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I'm behind, but this reporter is great. He's pressing him in Turkey. His question to trump though Italy was brilliant.
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I stopped after the first question. Trump sounded like Dale Gribble on quaaludes.
 
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I forgot the "You did a great job at your job" was separate from the "I went out on the floor and got you votes." On the plus side, I guess he's already assuming Warren's winning and starting to take credit for what she got done too. ;)
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Funny thing is it doesn't sound like he actually did go out and get her votes in any real way.

But both former Sen. Chris Dodd and former Rep. Barney Frank told The New York Times they do not recall the former vice president being a key or significant player in getting Dodd-Frank passed, undercutting his claims here.
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Fact checking the fourth Democratic debate

Three hours, 12 candidates. Here's how their claims stack up.
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Sadly when I see this kind of thing now I can't take it at face value, I wouldn't be shocked if it was someone on the left who did that to get people mad at the other side. Whoever did it is an a****** though.
 
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Last's night's debate was very spread out. Nobody stood out, but people did, I feel, make a better case/performance than last time. Buttigieg, Klobucher, Booker, all made better performances than the past. Bernie surprised me with his energy. Biden was himself. He didn't fall over himself too much. Warren seemed to just be average. She's gonna need to admit taxes will go up so it doesn't become a bomb during the primary. Gabbard and Harris are just not good. Steyer was surprisingly better than I thought he would be. Yang was good, but he's still a one trick pony. If he has more ideas he really needs to say them loud. Castro has missed his opportunity and shot himself in the foot last debate.
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Even with the more crowded stage I thought it was better than the previous debates overall but I still think time was wasted with that stupid final question. I have to disagree a bit on Biden though, the guy couldn't stay focused for more than a sentence and it makes me feel bad for him because I do like him. I think Warren did as good as anyone could be when they are playing defense most of the night but you are right about her answer for taxes going up, they ask her specifically about taxes and she just looks like she's dodging and when Sanders just came out and admitted taxes go up but all premiums go away it just makes her look like she's trying to fool people. What she's saying is true but she's doing it in a way that just looks shady and like a typical politician plus she hasn't put out a specific plan yet anyway.

With Yang and his 1 trick pony thing it's hard to say a lot when you know you are going to be given the least amount of time, he only got a little over 4 minutes of speaking time last night and while he wasn't at the bottom for a change (that was Steyer with 3:37 to Yangs 4:16) I liked how he was actually a little more forceful and spoke directly to Sanders and Warren about why he thought his ideas were better. I do think UBI makes a lot more sense than a federal jobs guarantee and I was glad that he took his time to point out the issues with implementing something like that. I only wish he'd make it more clear that UBI isn't supposed to replace work, I don't know why anyone thinks someone can live off of $12k a year but that seems to be an area of confusion for some.

I watched Mayor Pete and Beto's fight and damn does Pete seem like an a******, he hates being questioned, I've noticed that from the start that when someone questions him he gets this really hateful look on his face and it's funny. Last night he controlled that look but you could tell he really has an issue with thinking someone knows more about something than he does. Booker is so fake it's annoying, you can tell he's "acting" when he starts his little dreamy eyed speeches, both he and Kamala need to drop out, they were wasting space there last night and yes so does Tulsi.
 
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Even with the more crowded stage I thought it was better than the previous debates overall but I still think time was wasted with that stupid final question. I have to disagree a bit on Biden though, the guy couldn't stay focused for more than a sentence and it makes me feel bad for him because I do like him. I think Warren did as good as anyone could be when they are playing defense most of the night but you are right about her answer for taxes going up, they ask her specifically about taxes and she just looks like she's dodging and when Sanders just came out and admitted taxes go up but all premiums go away it just makes her look like she's trying to fool people. What she's saying is true but she's doing it in a way that just looks shady and like a typical politician plus she hasn't put out a specific plan yet anyway.

With Yang and his 1 trick pony thing it's hard to say a lot when you know you are going to be given the least amount of time, he only got a little over 4 minutes of speaking time last night and while he wasn't at the bottom for a change (that was Steyer with 3:37 to Yangs 4:16) I liked how he was actually a little more forceful and spoke directly to Sanders and Warren about why he thought his ideas were better. I do think UBI makes a lot more sense than a federal jobs guarantee and I was glad that he took his time to point out the issues with implementing something like that. I only wish he'd make it more clear that UBI isn't supposed to replace work, I don't know why anyone thinks someone can live off of $12k a year but that seems to be an area of confusion for some.

I watched Mayor Pete and Beto's fight and damn does Pete seem like an a******, he hates being questioned, I've noticed that from the start that when someone questions him he gets this really hateful look on his face and it's funny. Last night he controlled that look but you could tell he really has an issue with thinking someone knows more about something than he does. Booker is so fake it's annoying, you can tell he's "acting" when he starts his little dreamy eyed speeches, both he and Kamala need to drop out, they were wasting space there last night and yes so does Tulsi.
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Talking time.

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JinCA said:
I watched Mayor Pete and Beto's fight and damn does Pete seem like an a******, he hates being questioned, I've noticed that from the start that when someone questions him he gets this really hateful look on his face and it's funny.
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On the other hand, I appreciated that he pounded Tulsi like Plainview would, only with clean sheets.
 
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Talking time.

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Yeah the list I saw I saw was speaking time "so far" and I missed that last part. Funny thing is Harris got 3 more minutes than Yang and I think she spent all of that plus some on trying to attack Warren over not wanting Trump's twitter banned lol.
 
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With Yang and his 1 trick pony thing it's hard to say a lot when you know you are going to be given the least amount of time, he only got a little over 4 minutes of speaking time last night and while he wasn't at the bottom for a change (that was Steyer with 3:37 to Yangs 4:16) I liked how he was actually a little more forceful and spoke directly to Sanders and Warren about why he thought his ideas were better. I do think UBI makes a lot more sense than a federal jobs guarantee and I was glad that he took his time to point out the issues with implementing something like that. I only wish he'd make it more clear that UBI isn't supposed to replace work, I don't know why anyone thinks someone can live off of $12k a year but that seems to be an area of confusion for some.
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I missed the debate because I couldn't find it online to listen to while driving.

I was hoping that by now Yang would be announcing households selected from his UBI Raffle
( hint: pick me plz)

Or maybe some have been selected and they're waiting a few months to collect info on how it's been spent. It would help to show UBI in action in a variety of ways affecting people's lives.

It's weird though, some online commenters I listen to ranging from Joe Rogan or The Young Turks make comments about what are people going to do all day to how can people live on 12k per yer. Yang's message may be up against a deeply established idea of 'Work' and also to some extent 'Welfare'.

It sort of helps to simply frame it as a question of "What would you do with another $1000". Just quit your job as a crazy stunt to live on 12K? Or maybe be less 'Risk Averse' to trying out business ideas or investing in education? Maybe be able to cut back on hours?

Also, how $1000 times the population would affect a community and maybe revive downtown or mall stores?
 
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