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It’s baffles me how republicans allowed trump and the conspiracy nuts to take over the party.

You can see the leash republicans have had on these people for decades starting to break. I can only hope it does break and the party splits.

10s of millions of these suckers are getting grifted to hell and back by trump and co. and they are too stupid to realize it.

republicans have allowed the worst s*** posting edgelords/conspiracy theorists to take over the party.
 
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It’s baffles me how republicans allowed trump and the conspiracy nuts to take over the party.

You can see the leash republicans have had on these people for decades starting to break. I can only hope it does break and the party splits.

10s of millions of these suckers are getting grifted to hell and back by trump and co. and they are too stupid to realize it.

republicans have allowed the worst s*** posting edgelords/conspiracy theorists to take over the party.

It just shows that the Republican message in the past and Trump now are not that far off. The only difference is that Trump doesn't tone it down and is blunt about it. People don't just suddenly get taken in by all this hate. The seeds from Trumpism were being planted way back during the birther Obama years. We kind of dismissed it, I know I thought that most Republicans were still reasonable people we could deal with... unfortunately I think I was wrong.

I still think that the average Republican doesn't really like Trump, but only because he says the quiet part loud, not because of what he says.
 
I know you don't like her Yankeessuck but she makes some good points here, especially when it comes to economic progressives vs the overly woke judgmental left. We need to focus on policies that help lift everyone economically and ignore the virtue signaling crowd who want to make everything about how woke someone is or isn't, that stuff is a big turnoff to most people.

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Agree with JinCa's video. Democrats need to make identity politics their primary focus unfortunately.

1. I've said before in this thread, but stop calling for gun "control." It's time to rebrand. I think we have seen time and time again how f***ing bad democrats are at controlling narrative. They need to launch a campaign for gun responsibility. The premise being taking steps to ensure people are actually responsible gun owners. For instance, actually storing your weapons safely. If you weapon is stolen from you because you failed to properly store your weapon and it is used in a crime, you absolutely should be held accountable.

Mental health checks should be another big part of gun responsibility. A lot of harm done by privately owned weapons usually is self inflicted.

Promote hunting, but for food/conservation purposes. I know Texas has a lot of issues with wild pigs/boars. I guarantee that people would be on board with this.

2. Need to go in hard on uplifting the lower and middle class - the working class. The "essential workers" during this pandemic. The wealth gap has grown exponentially over the last 40-50 years because of republican policy. The majority of the country's wealth is now controlled by a few people while the rest of us get the crumbs.

3. Tied to #2, this means tax breaks, but not for the wealthy and corporations. Go after small business, mom and pop shops etc. They are the ones that need tax breaks, not billion/trillion dollar corporations. Provide incentives to the small mom and pop business owners that fall below certain thresholds. Reward employing and providing livable wages, etc.

4. Raise taxes on the wealthy/corporations, but again, this comes down to controlling the narrative. It needs to be made absolutely clear as day that raising taxes is only on the wealthiest of this country and corporations. We already saw how quickly Biden's tax plan to increase taxes on people that make over $400K quickly had the narrative changed by the right that it means everybody is getting taxed and democrats did an abysmal job attacking that narrative.

This should include making sure that people actually understand how our tax system works. A lot of people don't understand we have a progressive tax system and how it works...

5. Medicare for All. We already know the majority of this country supports this. I don't understand why Democrats are scared to promote it.

6. While I fully support the "woke" movement and wanting the country to be equal for all, unfortunately the racist/bigotry is too engrained into the country's dna. this s*** needs to take a step back and cannot be the identity of the party.

Instead democrats need to make sure minorities are being uplifted and being put into positions where they can make change from the bottom up. This starts at the local level. We have seen what grass roots can do. Stacy Abrams in Georgia did an insane job getting voter turnout. Need to start going in on these grass roots local level people. Florida was a huge failure for Democrats this past election because the failure of state level democrats.

Over all, the biggest thing Democrats need to learn is how to control a god damn narrative. They are so bad at it. There is not a remotely socialist thing about the democrat party, yet they do an absolute s*** countering this every time republicans say that they are. Like it is absolutely abysmal how bad they are and controlling narratives and going on the attack. Stop playing the "respectful" party.
 
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5. Medicare for All. We already know the majority of this country supports this. I don't understand why Democrats are scared to promote it.
I think it should be supported but its an unknown how much people do support it. There were polls that showed voters supported it but thought it would just be optional.


67% of M4A supporters think they could keep private insurance.


6. While I fully support the "woke" movement and wanting the country to be equal for all, unfortunately the racist/bigotry is too engrained into the country's dna. this s*** needs to take a step back and cannot be the identity of the party.

That is also a subject of messaging. Police reform sounds a lot better than defund the police.
 
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I think it should be supported but its an unknown how much people do support it. There were polls that showed voters supported it but thought it would just be optional.


67% of M4A supporters think they could keep private insurance.




That is also a subject of messaging. Police reform sounds a lot better than defund the police.
South Korea I believe has a system where there is a nationalized health coverage that everybody pays into and also private insurance if you choose to go that route.

It needs to be made abundantly clear that M4A system requires everybody paying into it. If you choose to go to private insurance after the fact that is your choice.

I do wonder if private health insurance companies are forced to compete with M4A, would their prices drop and become more reasonable?
 
The Democrats definitely have a "branding" or narrative problem. Their policies poll pretty well, but the message gets lost in the right wing misinformation machine. Their message is far too much policy, while the right dumbs it down to way below the lowest common denominator.

Democrats need to start talking about the economy in general terms, and not in student loan debt and or minimum wage (two things that might not impact many of us one bit). They need to start talking to the middle class from the lower middle to the upper middle small business owner. Democrats should not have to fight so hard for these people. Quite frankly, their message is a little too long and involved and takes too much work to get to.

Biden's campaign started this. I think they tweeted "nobody making over 400k will pay more taxes) constantly. It needs a lot more though. Exit polls show by a large margin that the most important issue is the economy. Democrats need to do a lot more to talk about it (and not just about student debt and minimum wage).

For healthcare, the right has no idea how to fix the system, but are pretending like the status quo works. Democrats needed to hit the constantly rising costs harder.

Ultimately, they don't do enough to dispel the myth of the Republicans being "good for the economy". I hear so many left leaning pundits say things like, "It isn't just about the economy". You just lost votes saying that, because you're telling people "the gop is better for the economy". It IS about the economy. Every major issue lands back on the economy. Covid? Economy. Health care? Economy. Climate change? That's an economic problem. It is always the economy.

Republican voters look at me and think that I vote for "soft" issues. They are shocked to find out that I do vote the economy, and I vote Democrat. As a middle class person, the Democrats are better for me.
 
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The Democrats definitely have a "branding" or narrative problem. Their policies poll pretty well, but the message gets lost in the right wing misinformation machine. Their message is far too much policy, while the right dumbs it down to way below the lowest common denominator.

Democrats need to start talking about the economy in general terms, and not in student loan debt and or minimum wage (two things that might not impact many of us one bit). They need to start talking to the middle class from the lower middle to the upper middle small business owner. Democrats should not have to fight so hard for these people. Quite frankly, their message is a little too long and involved and takes too much work to get to.

Biden's campaign started this. I think they tweeted "nobody making over 400k will pay more taxes) constantly. It needs a lot more though. Exit polls show by a large margin that the most important issue is the economy. Democrats need to do a lot more to talk about it (and not just about student debt and minimum wage).

For healthcare, the right has no idea how to fix the system, but are pretending like the status quo works. Democrats needed to hit the constantly rising costs harder.

Ultimately, they don't do enough to dispel the myth of the Republicans being "good for the economy". I hear so many left leaning pundits say things like, "It isn't just about the economy". You just lost votes saying that, because you're telling people "the gop is better for the economy". It IS about the economy. Every major issue lands back on the economy. Covid? Economy. Health care? Economy. Climate change? That's an economic problem. It is always the economy.

Republican voters look at me and think that I vote for "soft" issues. They are shocked to find out that I do vote the economy, and I vote Democrat. As a middle class person, the Democrats are better for me.

The funny thing is historically the economy has been stronger under democratic leadership. Historically, the economy has seen more growth and has provided more benefit to everybody, not just the rich under democrats. The economy tends to crash under republican control.

They are terrible at putting that message out.
 
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