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Jericho is and will always be over dude, you need to move on with your life lol
Over and actually still able to perform are two different things. He was floundering in WWE until he came up with the list and got hooked up with Kevin Owens. He's doing his worst in ring work ever in AEW.
 

The guy who can't even take the blame for letting Caster's rap go out on a 6 day old taped show lol, says he went over every rap with Caster except that one because it was on Dark? Caster appeared almost exclusively on DARK so if he went over every other rap he would have had to go over a bunch of raps from DARK as well. The little rich boy is full of s***.
 
The guy who can't even take the blame for letting Caster's rap go out on a 6 day old taped show lol, says he went over every rap with Caster except that one because it was on Dark? Caster appeared almost exclusively on DARK so if he went over every other rap he would have had to go over a bunch of raps from DARK as well. The little rich boy is full of s***.
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Truth is Roman is trash anywayz.
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You're delusional. Cena is one of the top draws in the history of wrestling and he has transcended "sports entertainment." CM Punk does vlogs and got whooped in bottom card MMA fights.
He's not as big of a WRESTLING draw. He wasn't when they wrestled each other nor is he now.

In wrestling John Cena got mixed reactions from fans and writers.

CM Punk being whispered sold out the United Center.

Can't remember the last time Cena/wwe did.
 
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He's not as big of a WRESTLING draw. He wasn't when they wrestled each other nor is he now.

In wrestling John Cena got mixed reactions from fans and writers.

CM Punk being whispered sold out the United Center.

Can't remember the last time Cena/wwe did.
Ask the kids who watch WWE if Cena isn't a draw. Again, CM Punk isn't in the same stratosphere as Cena. It's really simple, CM lives up to his name "Punk," as he's a complete a****** on TV and real life, and people see that. He's never be anything more than a high mid-card draw at best, (Even though he was pushed hard as a champion), even more so now. It's why he's going to AEW. He is great on the mic though. Nobody there is a top tier draw. Nobody really in any wrestling is a top tier draw, nut AEW for sure. If anybody is, it's because wrestling, as a whole, sucks now. AEW, while it does have some talent, and I'd rather watch it over the WWE, is overwhelmingly made up of washed up wrestlers, once been's scavenging for a check, and never will be's.

And that's the bottom line because Plainview said so.
 
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He's not as big of a WRESTLING draw. He wasn't when they wrestled each other nor is he now.

In wrestling John Cena got mixed reactions from fans and writers.

CM Punk being whispered sold out the United Center.

Can't remember the last time Cena/wwe did.
My guy, take the L on this one. Just because Cena was extremely polarizing doesn't mean he wasn't a massive draw.

I would argue that CM Punk wouldn't have gotten close to his drawing power if it weren't for The Summer of Punk. Cena elevated him to the next level at MITB and there's no denying it.
 
Ask the kids who watch WWE if Cena isn't a draw. Again, CM Punk isn't in the same stratosphere as Cena. It's really simple, CM lives up to his name "Punk," as he's a complete a****** on TV and real life, and people see that. He's never be anything more than a high mid-card draw at best, (Even though he was pushed hard as a champion), even more so now. It's why he's going to AEW. He is great on the mic though. Nobody there is a top tier draw. Nobody really in any wrestling is a top tier draw, nut AEW for sure. If anybody is, it's because wrestling, as a whole, sucks now. AEW, while it does have some talent, and I'd rather watch it over the WWE, is overwhelmingly made up of washed up wrestlers, once been's scavenging for a check, and never will be's.

And that's the bottom line because Plainview said so.
Have you ever took a child to a live wwe event?

I have numerous times,less than half of the children cheered Cena and the boos from the crowd as a whole was almost as bad as Roman Reigns.

Punk? The places got so loud you couldn't hear yourself speak.

Ryback has a story on him saying a fan having a backstage pass wanting to see Cena to thank him for encouraging words Cena told him. Ryback goes to get him and John says f*** him! That's a POS!

I am looking for this interview to back up what I heard... it might be on these interviews?



Also look into what Riley said about him.
 
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My guy, take the L on this one. Just because Cena was extremely polarizing doesn't mean he wasn't a massive draw.

I would argue that CM Punk wouldn't have gotten close to his drawing power if it weren't for The Summer of Punk. Cena elevated him to the next level at MITB and there's no denying it.
I THINK YOU HAVE A SHORT AND A BIT BIASED MEMORY.

CM Punk was and always has been more over with the fans and critics.
 
I THINK YOU HAVE A SHORT AND A BIT BIASED MEMORY.

CM Punk was and always has been more over with the fans and critics.


Cena has made the WWE more money than Punk ever did and ever will. The guy is a star and I'm not even a big fan of him.

Punk had hype but notice is still just the pipebomb promo. The guy got battered in 2 real fights so can't exactly be cutting promos saying he's going to kick people's arse. He will draw for a while but at 42 he won't have long left and will hopefully be in the putting over talent section... especially after criticising other older talent for not doing it.
 
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Cena has made the WWE more money than Punk ever did and ever will. The guy is a star and I'm not even a big fan of him.

Punk had hype but notice is still just the pipebomb promo. The guy got battered in 2 real fights so can't exactly be cutting promos saying he's going to kick people's arse. He will draw for a while but at 42 he won't have long left and will hopefully be in the putting over talent section... especially after criticising other older talent for not doing it.
That really is his claim to fame, the "Pipe bomb." That's really it. You won't find him anywhere in lists of "great matches" unless it's with a bonafide super star such as Cena or Lesnar.