Tomb Raider 2015 Timed? Exclusive To Xbox
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That's a match up halo doesn't want to have this generation
I will save this quote that you think TR and UC4 will sell more than Halo 5.
Go back to the even more glorious PS1 days when Sony was dishing out money left, right and centre. Buying out Psygnosis, and then paying Core Designs to lock up TR2 and TR3 only for PS1 keeping out Saturn and Nintendo versions. Funny how nobody brings that up. In fact, most people don't know, don't care and it seemed everyone on PS systems loved it as was a popular franchise that got off the ground during the 32-bit era.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Design
Tomb Raider
The company is widely known for the Tomb Raider series, created by Toby Gard and Paul Howard Douglas, which was released in 1996 and followed by several sequels. The success of Tomb Raider and its subsequent sequels played a huge part in keeping Eidos Interactive financially solvent.
After the release of the original Tomb Raider, which had debuted on the Sega Saturn platform ahead of the PlayStation version (they had been developed simultaneously) Sony Computer Entertainment recognised the game's popularity and the potential mass appeal of future Tomb Raider titles. SCE offered Core Design and Eidos Interactive an exclusivity agreement, to ensure that the first sequel would not be developed for either the Saturn or the Nintendo 64. The full terms of this offer have never been revealed. By making the PlayStation the only console with Tomb Raider II, Sony Computer Entertainment was able to benefit by attracting new PlayStation owners leveraging Tomb Raider as a killer application and using Lara Croft as a marketing character alongside Sony's own first party characters. Core Design also had the advantage of developing only for a single console, rather than several at once. This exclusivity agreement was further extended to cover the third game in the series. The fourth and fifth games in the franchise, Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation and Tomb Raider Chronicles respectively, were also released for the Sega Dreamcast.
We actually don't know what it will be at all. That is why people should stop with the childish remarks about performance.
But hey I was told in another thread that doesn't go on.
Yeah that's what I meant.
Just going by past experience. We aren't allowed to hypothesize based on the past? Sorry.
I don't know. Haven't been frequenting the forums lately. Enlighten me.
Its not childish @ all its realistic. People getting upset about truths or probable truths are childish.
Only way its hitting 1080p/60 fps is if it is a step down visually.
You can bookmark this post as well.
If I am wrong instead of waiting for the PC/PS4 version I will gladly buy the X1 version.
So Square Enix is doing the same stuff the then Eidos did with Sony now with MS ahh okay.
Except in this scenario its a given SE will bring a version of the game to the PC/PS4.
The problem is when you say things like this.....
Now the issue with the definitive edition on XB1 was frame rate and resolution. So your saying the new TR will run at 1080/60 on PS4.
Yes I am because of how good the previous version being a 1st gen game was and because of the over 40% power difference between it and the XBO makes it much more likely on the PS4. BUT if it didn't reach those specs the PC version will.. So if I were to consider buying the game it be a win for me.
Because Driedmangoes (aka naty, then driedmangoes, then naty, then.....) doesn't like the fact the next TR game is coming to X1. So to make himself feel better, he assumes a better version will come later.
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The Definitive edition was still a port of a last gen game. Let's see what they can do with the X1 being the lead platform.
Where does anyone say that "The Rise of Tomb Raider" is a Timed exclusive?
You guys are so funny and trying to be deceptive by taking one thing and twisting it around.
MS investing their own money into development and Publishing of the game, and you expect it to come to Sony platform-that's just being delirious. Every deal has a duration obviously.
So instead of calling microsoft names and how they are liars and what not first get some common sense and learn to read.
Why would I pay money to have something made for my competitors?
And please prove it to me that word "duration" has to do with time length instead of "for as long as criteria is kept".
Obviously since MS is funding it's more likelly to mean "for a duration that MS provides funding" vs "only for holyday season 205"
It is exclusive, is it to hard for you to comprehend? Is Bloodborne exclusive forever? Has Sony said anything about it? Did you interogate them about it? Ask them and see if their deal has a duration as nothing is forever. So untill you guys go give crap to Sony about Bloodborne stop giving MS crap about doing same thing. You are clearly showing double standards and most of this is directed at Valliance.
Everything has a duration unless you buy the IP. Duration doesn't mean "timed" it means "for as long as something is happening"
Which could mean 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 50 years etc. Word duration by itself is not enough to label it as timed especially considering MS is investing money into it.
ME only came to PS because Microsoft sold it or gave it up for a favour, and as I said are you guys questioning Bloodborne or anything else by Sony as this double standard is pissing me off.
Why does it matter to them? Sales numbers don't matter as much as profit. So look at it this way: spend money developing on 5 platforms and sell 7mil at ~$50=$350mil-$100mil development cost-$150 to $250mil marketing and distributing left them with less than $50million profit. (They broke even after selling more than 5 million copies)
Now take MS funding development and marketing that means you would need to sell only 2 million copies on x1 and x360 to have same profit as on 5 platforms on previous game. Considering that it'll be exclusive also gives it extra focus on making a game better as you only need to worry about 3 platforms vs 5 which makes it a bigger hit, I expect it to sell at least 5 million first year which puts it in higher profit margin than previous TR.
Yeah as they are not on the same level, we have Ryse to compete with UC4 :-). Game that is short and only has had time spent on making it look good is no good investment at all. That's why I would never buy either of those two. Halo is just massive scale and looks decent.That's a match up halo doesn't want to have this generation
Then we should all take everything Sony says as lies and looking to stick it to people with spyware, security breaches etc? Don't do double standards.
You are such a fricking troll and childish. It has to be step down visualy to hit 1080p60fps? Ever heard of optimisations and graphics getting better throughout generation? So UC and UC3 looked exactly the same or was UC3 running at lower resolution and fps?
God how stupid some people choose to sound.
Why is it that the 40% power difference still has not showed? Why doesn't single exclusive on Ps4 look better than Ryse? Why is it that after Witcher (i think) was sopposed to be released at 900p and MS helped them with actually using eSRAM properly they will be hitting 1080p? PS4 is still to prove that it's more powerful, it only showed that it's simpler so far and that it doesn't have anything exclusive that looks better than xbox exclusives.
Yeeeeaah.... there's a good chance RTTR will be 1080p @ 60FPS as DX12 should be in mid to full swing by then. Forgot about that. VaLL may have stuck his foot in his mouth.
That's Sony gamers for you. Blowing things out of proportion trying to get their way.
TR has some kind of exclusive deal with MS/SE and people freak. Bloordborne has some kind of exclusive deal with Sony/From Software and people love it, despite From Software being a multiplat game maker with Demon's/Dark Souls games coming out for MS/Sony/PC. Sony tossed them some money, they took it and Sony is publishing it.
I don't see tons of Xbox/PC people getting all red faced that PS4 is getting a cool looking exclusive action game.
Havent you heard Intelli; MSFT is supposed to bow out of the competition and not contend with the glory that is Sony because........well, because. The Sony Samurai's have spoken!
Bioware was bought out by EA. Was there any doubt that Mass Effect would be multiplat after that? Though Microsoft should have still secured it imo.
I agree with much of your post, but the PS4 is more powerful. I think it has proved that plenty of times with like games. It doesn't have a game to match RYSE (subjectively) because CRYTEK hasn't made a game for it yet. Each developer will be limited by its abilities.
I do think its interesting that we went from parsing words to speculate on exclusivity status to "why waste money on the X1 version when the superior PS4/PC version comes out 6 months later". I'm sorry but I don't see how that's not telling on some level.
I think the jist is if you question anything or discuss anything gaming related on this Xbox forum section and it doesn't go by what some of you think or blowing smoke up MS ass you are clearly a Sony Samurai, fanboy, MS hater. Same goes for the PS section if you don't agree or blow smoke up Sony ass you are accused of the same just switch it to MS samurai, fanboy, Sony hater.
But yeah one side is clearly better then the other.
But yeah one side is clearly better then the other.
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Bloodborne is being made by Sony Japan studio along with From Software just like demon souls. Sony isn't just paying money for exclusive, Sony owns the IP demon souls and will own the IP bloodborne. It is different though not entirely. Tomb Raider is already an establish IP that square enix\eidos created without MS.
You can hypothesize all you want, and I'll point out when you are stealth trolling, and you can deny stealth trolling, coz that's what stealth trolls do.
I think the jist is if you question anything or discuss anything gaming related on this Xbox forum section and it doesn't go by what some of you think or blowing smoke up MS ass you are clearly a Sony Samurai, fanboy, MS hater. Same goes for the PS section if you don't agree or blow smoke up Sony ass you are accused of the same just switch it to MS samurai, fanboy, Sony hater.
But yeah one side is clearly better then the other.
I think that's true of some but not most. Some of the "questioning" is veiled baiting. Especially on this last page.
I don't think what you're saying is childish. Because it is a probable truth. It's the provacative nature in which you bring the thought across and also the automatic assumptions that come with it.
I don't get offended because I've come to know your personality enough to know that you're not the subtle type and you dont mind if your opinion goes against the grain ( in both forums).
I think the jist is if you question anything or discuss anything gaming related on this Xbox forum section and it doesn't go by what some of you think or blowing smoke up MS ass you are clearly a Sony Samurai, fanboy, MS hater. Same goes for the PS section if you don't agree or blow smoke up Sony ass you are accused of the same just switch it to MS samurai, fanboy, Sony hater.
But yeah one side is clearly better then the other.
That's true to an extent I suppose. I remember a while back someone accused me of being a Sony fanboy because my opinion on whatever didn't particularly line-up with theirs in that particular instance... post history be damned.
edit: On second thought, maybe it's my Avatar?
Honestly I would have preferred if it comes out on the ps4 as well since there'd be improvements but I wouldn't mind getting it on the X1 if the delay is going to take a few years. I just hope there will be a screenshot feature by the time it releases. I think someone said it's in the works right now to implement one.
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