Want to watch BF4 in full 1080p/60FPS next-gen quality?

They need to fix the motion blur. That motion blur like to lingers when it shouldn't. But it looks beautiful. I can't believe this is the quality they achieved with next gen consoles. I kept expecting "medium settings," but this is a hell of a medium setting if that's the case. Definitely a good step above Battlefield 3.
 
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I'm just gonna quote what I said in another thread....

Ok, after looking at the high res footage of the PS4 version....I can say that the textures do NOT look washed out like what we've been seeing.....and yes, it looks near pc quality...so much so, that I would have said it was pc if I did not know what I had already downloaded
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So, it really does look like BF4 next gen will look like pc.
 
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I downloaded & watched it. Still has the crushed black look. The graphics look good. You definitely can see some aliasing issues as the jaggies are evident.

Game ran smoothly in my eyes.
 
Downloaded and played on my gaming TV and sat in my usual spot. First off, it looks awful with the crushed blacks in any indoor area, hard to watch and I couldn't discern any detail at all (the more I think about it, DICE should ask them to pull that XB1 footage it looks so bad). Even outside, there is a ton of aliasing and shimmer. Yes, it looked smooth, but I'm just not impressed at all with the look of it. Guess I was expecting it to be much better.

I'm downloading the PS4 one now to see if I can see the differences...

Update: I watched the PS4 version, less aliasing and shimmer, but still present. After switching back and forth between the videos, I can say the PS4 definitely looks better. I think it's simply the difference in resolution, it's fairly obvious in my opinion. Call me crazy, but I don't think either version is that impressive.

I think better quality video and the addition of AO in the XB1 version will help, but not make them equal. My conclusion: this is a bummer for a Xbox fan.
 
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Looks pretty good. I watched it earlier today. Still some pop-in & the blur obviously. Slightly disappointing considering these systems cost $400-$500. I would have rather bought a Xbox One for $500 that didn't have a Kinect, but had 4-8 more gigs of RAM & slightly more processing for that extra $100.
 
Watching 1080p footage of games that are 720/900 p........


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I'd really love to see some HD footage of MP on the X1 on a current build. The devs keep saying that what we're seeing in terms of X1 MP is old/unfinished builds with missing effects etc. If what I get on my X1 looks close to the PS4 MP footage I just watched, I'll be all sorts of happy :)
 
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Downloaded and played on my gaming TV and sat in my usual spot. First off, it looks awful with the crushed blacks in any indoor area, hard to watch and I couldn't discern any detail at all (the more I think about it, DICE should ask them to pull that XB1 footage it looks so bad). Even outside, there is a ton of aliasing and shimmer. Yes, it looked smooth, but I'm just not impressed at all with the look of it. Guess I was expecting it to be much better.

I'm downloading the PS4 one now to see if I can see the differences...

Update: I watched the PS4 version, less aliasing and shimmer, but still present. After switching back and forth between the videos, I can say the PS4 definitely looks better. I think it's simply the difference in resolution, it's fairly obvious in my opinion. Call me crazy, but I don't think either version is that impressive.

I think better quality video and the addition of AO in the XB1 version will help, but not make them equal. My conclusion: this is a bummer for a Xbox fan.
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A quick thanks to SG for posting this.

Northcoast, I agree for the most part but I do think the PS4 version is impressive. After watching both videos twice and also watching the PS4 multiplayer video. It's obvious that the X1 version was compromised. It still looks good. But the aliasing and overall smoothness just wasn't up with the PS4 version.

I think the X1 versions sharpness is hardware related. The segment when you shoot down the helicopter on the winding road looks more vivid on X1 for some reason. Also all along that road, the PS4 has aliasing issues as well.
 
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Ps4 version doesn't have the washed out look in the 1080p video it was showing in some screenshots a couple of days ago. Aliasing issues are present in both versions, but ps4 version has less of those comparatively.

Neither of these versions are native 1080p, x1 gets scaled from 720p and ps4 from 1600*900.

Some people were saying couple of days back that due to x1's better scaler chip, the x1 version actually ends up looking better than ps4. From these comparison videos, i won't say that is the case.
 
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Okay, now that I'm looking at it, something is wrong with X1 version. Colors are WAAAAY too off. Not that it's going to be a massive game-breaking problem but it's very hard not to notice. That said this is more than just a performance-wise problem. Even without the black crush it still looks quite jaggy, so I would just think the color grading was not finished on Xbox One. Heck, DF even filmed it wrong way.
 
devilsgrin_6 said:
Looks pretty good. I watched it earlier today. Still some pop-in & the blur obviously. Slightly disappointing considering these systems cost $400-$500. I would have rather bought a Xbox One for $500 that didn't have a Kinect, but had 4-8 more gigs of RAM & slightly more processing for that extra $100.
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This, but I think they can keep the Kinect but beef up the spec, & sell maybe at a slight loss. They can easily get the money back with bigger install base + Live subscription. I seriously do not know what the executives are thinking, maybe under pressure by shareholders.

Already, I heard many long time XBOX supporters being disappointed with MS, & thinking (if they have not already) of getting the PS4 instead.

Some people may say, who cares, but remember if more people get a PS4, & they gain a much bigger install base, support for the console for 3rd party developers will be much higher. Remember the xbox/PS2 era?

I heard an article that buying a new console at launch is always a risk, not unlike buying an electronics at launch. Too much unknown. Some people said, eventually the tools will get better, & xbox will eventually close the gap. Fact is we do not know. We can only compare what we have at the moment.

Imagine with MS beef up the spec, we could have Xbox version being comparable with PS4 now, & the possibility of becoming better with better tool set!

I am also surprise. Don't MS talk to the developers, in the development process. If I am MS executive & I know 2 major developers having issue getting comparable performance, I will really find out what happened. Issue with tools, or just hardware not on par? If the formal, they could have inform us that this is driver issues as they have spoken with developers, & future games will be better. If the latter, they could have beef up the hardware when they have the chance.
 
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I am also surprise. Don't MS talk to the developers, in the development process. If I am MS executive & I know 2 major developers having issue getting comparable performance, I will really find out what happened. Issue with tools, or just hardware not on par? If the formal, they could have inform us that this is driver issues as they have spoken with developers, & future games will be better. If the latter, they could have beef up the hardware when they have the chance.
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No matter what we think we know, they know better. In fact we know nothing. We don't know where these 'insiders' are coming from and exactly what is going on inside the companies. Usually in this case, we would wait and see. But people here are so enthusiastic about gaming, so they are likely to assume what they know and do not know.

I, for one, have a very limited knowledge as well, but that knowledge is enough for me to know that the difference will be negligible in the next 6 months or so (it's even non-existant in some games), games I play are on Xbox, I'm curious of other things it offers, and I am slightly worried that Sony's financial woe might harm the console's lifecycle. If you are unsure of these, you might want to just hold off your order.
 
Downloading both the PS4 and xone vids now. Shame there is no MP for xone to compare what really matters.
 
Regarding the extreme contrast and crushed black, I think it has to do with the absence of AO. The darkened areas do not really cover jaggies. Jaggies are usually there for farther objects and closer ones are usually safe; AO, on the other hand, will seriously gimp the look on closer areas, and since the build, however old they are (we don't know), is the one to show all around the world for the next few weeks, they just tweaked gamma to darken the areas that should be dark. If they add AO and do not fix the color, it will never show on screen.
 
After watching the videos....They seem very close to me. The big difference is the blacks in the xbox one version which totally ruins the overall lighting/shadows, and it also appears to accentuate any jaggies. Until we get one where these issues aren't apparent on the xbox version it is pretty hard to truly call it in any meaningful way, IMO.
 
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After watching the videos....They seem very close to me. The big difference is the blacks in the xbox one version which totally ruins the overall lighting/shadows, and it also appears to accentuate any jaggies. Until we get one where these issues aren't apparent on the xbox version it is pretty hard to truly call it in any meaningful way, IMO.
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So what are you saying with 'until we get one where these issues aren't apparent.....', that the xbox version isn't ready in this build or this video isn't captured properly which leads to crushing the blacks? If i had to pick one of the two from these comparison videos purely for looks, i'd pick the ps4 version, even though the difference isn't much and it has also has jaggies (though not as much as the x1).
 
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So what are you saying with 'until we get one where these issues aren't apparent.....', that the xbox version isn't ready in this build or this video isn't captured properly which leads to crushing the blacks? If i had to pick one of the two from these comparison videos purely for looks, i'd pick the ps4 version, even though the difference isn't much and it has also has jaggies (though not as much as the x1).
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You can pick which ever you like, but those blacks in the X1 version destroy the visual quality of it. It must be a capture issue cause these issues do not appear in other videos for games like Ryse and Forza. I mean it isn;t exactly a subtle issue which makes choosing between them a moot point.

What we can say is the PS4 version looks fantastic.
 
menace-uk- said:
You can pick which ever you like, but those blacks in the X1 version destroy the visual quality of it. It must be a capture issue cause these issues do not appear in other videos for games like Ryse and Forza. I mean it isn;t exactly a subtle issue which makes choosing between them a moot point.

What we can say is the PS4 version looks fantastic.
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The X1 footage JackFrag uploaded is actually much brighter, at least I remember so.
 
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The X1 footage JackFrag uploaded is actually much brighter, at least I remember so.
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I do not recall. I know I have seen plenty of his BF4 videos, but have no clue which were X1.

I do have a question though....Is the non-full range RGB of xbox one permanent , or will it be changed/fixed before, or day one of release ?
 
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I do not recall. I know I have seen plenty of his BF4 videos, but have no clue which were X1.

I do have a question though....Is the non-full range RGB of xbox one permanent , or will it be changed/fixed before, or day one of release ?
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All of campaign JackFrag uploaded were on X1.

DF uses their own capture device and AFAIK they actually sell those devices. RGB or not it's just that their devices specifically suffered some problems while they were capturing. This is in line with the fact that any other direct feed of any other games did not have such problem.

Since DF both captured AND played the game I would say that the color scheme is different in X1 version as they claim, but not to the extent of their capture. And even that difference might be alleviated once AO is applied.
 
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All of campaign JackFrag uploaded were on X1.

DF uses their own capture device and AFAIK they actually sell those devices. RGB or not it's just that their devices specifically suffered some problems while they were capturing. This is in line with the fact that any other direct feed of any other games did not have such problem.

Since DF both captured AND played the game I would say that the color scheme is different in X1 version as they claim, but not to the extent of their capture. And even that difference might be alleviated once AO is applied.
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I actually forgot DF was Eurogamer. I thought these vids were from somebody else.
 
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Okay, now that I'm looking at it, something is wrong with X1 version. Colors are WAAAAY too off. Not that it's going to be a massive game-breaking problem but it's very hard not to notice. That said this is more than just a performance-wise problem. Even without the black crush it still looks quite jaggy, so I would just think the color grading was not finished on Xbox One. Heck, DF even filmed it wrong way.
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That is just the recording device making it look like that....It will be fine when played in person.
 
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I actually forgot DF was Eurogamer. I thought these vids were from somebody else.
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Technically DF and Eurogamer are different and it's just that DF has their own section on Eurogamer, but right. The capture from Eurogamer = DF capture.

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That is just the recording device making it look like that....It will be fine when played in person.
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Kinda forgot about that, but did DF pointed out the crushed black? I believe they didn't, but cannot be sure.
 
Check out team USA v team Europe. XB1 version looks way better than the video here of the old build. How can we compare and old build to the current build of the PS4 BF#?
 
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