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Sep 11, 2013
Upcoming Games:
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Well-Known Member
Sep 11, 2013
From the Anandtech article...last paragraph is interesting.



Well-Known Member
Sep 13, 2013
Anyone else notice no one else is talking about VR w/ Scorpio? Guess that's not in the cards, or what?
I'm going to guess that they, perhaps, haven't told us everything yet. Maybe there is some kind of big event coming that would be ideal for those kinds of announcements... Not sure...


Formerly PM Maverick
Cornerstone Member
Sep 13, 2013
Wisconsin, USA
Good lord....just got caught up on the past 15 pages of posts in the Scorpio 4.0 thread, and that was turned into a huge s*** show. Pathetic.I hope 5.0 is an improvement, but I suspect not.

Anyway, at least we know Forbes is always consistent:

Remember: Xbox Scorpio Won't Have Any Exclusives At All

As Paul Tassi noted the other day, it didn't take long for the conversation about the Xbox Scorpio last week to take a distinct turn. For a few moments, it was all about the raw power of what appears to be a deeply impressive machine, albeit one without a price point. Moments later, the "software drives hardware" mentality took over, and people began once again talking about how all that power goes to waste without the games: as Sony has been showing recently, console exclusives are still potent motivators in an era of multiplatform blockbusters. Tassi made an important point: Sony's lead in the exclusive race right now is now a massive chasm, and we shouldn't expect Microsoft to catch up in a few short months. But we should also remember another thing about the difficulty the company will have using exclusives to support the Xbox Scorpio: it won't have any.

This isn't to say that it will have bad exclusives, or that it won't have big, headline-generating exclusives, but that it will literally have no exclusives.
Remember, the entire point of these mid-generation upgrades is that they will play all the same games as their older predecessors. So there can be no games that run on the Xbox Scorpio only: they also have to run on the Xbox One, as well as the PC. It is not a quibbling point. Not only does it mean that all of Scorpio's power has to go things like resolution, frame rate and load times instead of more fundamental improvements, it also means that it's impossible to put some marquee exclusive up on a pedestal and use it to sell the new machine. Any attempt to say: "see how good this game looks on Scorpio" has the side effect of saying: "this doesn't look nearly as good on Xbox One, does it?"

It's the essential difficulty in marketing these now-extended product lines. The companies involved need to strike a balancing act between elevating the new hardware and denigrating the old while still ensuring that all games look good and run well even on the older machines. This is less of a problem for Sony, which is using the PS4 Pro for differentiation in an already dominant product line. If people want to spend the extra money on a more powerful machine, the logic goes, let them. It helps keep the company a bit (a bit) more relevant to techies and offers the PS4 line a little more flexibility. Microsoft, on the other hand, has loftier goals. The Scorpio is meant to complete the company's rebranding as a gamer-first operation and to allow it to claim a place at the top of the ziggurat for console hardware. Unfortunately, exclusive software can be of limited help at best in this quest.

I'm not saying the lack of exclusive software will make it impossible for Microsoft to sell the Scorpio, just that it's a pretty unworkable angle. Instead, the best angle the company has mirrors what we saw with the PS4 back at launch, when both machines had a small handful of relatively uninteresting exclusives. Rather than selling on the strength of Knack, people found themselves very interesting in the fact that multiplatform games looked better on the PS4, and at a lower price point to boot. While the price won't be lower, it seems that multiplatforms will definitely look better on Scorpio: that's the best way to sell that power.

As both Sony and Microsoft look to the PC world for cues on upgrade cycles, so too should they look to the PC world on how to sell graphics. Nvidia has been selling cards without exclusives for a long time now, and at a higher price point than consoles will ever touch. The calls for good exclusives on the Scorpio miss the point that Microsoft's strategy dictates that there will be no exclusives on the Scorpio. Something to keep in mind.

One of the worst articles from Forbes yet.

  1. The author says games have to run on PC and Xbox. That is not true.
  2. The author says that Scorpio will literally have no exclusive. That is not true.
  3. The author says Sony and Microsoft and different goals. That is not true.
  4. If the author is saying that the lack of exclusives is an issue for Scorpio, the same can be said for the PS Pro, which, as I quote from the author (but changed Xbox to PS and the same comment is true to the T): "But we should also remember another thing about the difficulty the company will have using exclusives to support the PlayStation Pro it won't have any. This isn't to say that it will have bad exclusives, or that it won't have big, headline-generating exclusives, but that it will literally have no exclusives."
  5. The author is insinuating that the Scorpio is a next gen machine based on his comments, when actually, just like the PS4 and PS Pro are both PS4's, the Xbox One and Xbox Scorpio are also both Xbox One's. "According to Pinello, "Scorpio is part of the Xbox One family ... all of your games and accessories will work. Your existing games will run better on Scorpio, and ... we didn't want to leave gamers behind."


Come with me to electrical
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Supporting Member
Sep 12, 2013
Buffalo, NY
I can ignore the usual clickbait sites like Forbes... the problem is the more legit sites like Kotaku and Gizmodo blasting them (and by blasting them I mean are making guesses based on incomplete information).

Anyone who doesn't believe there is a massive anti-MS sentiment in the media is living in denial.


One Above All
Sep 11, 2013
What is the matter with these websites? Have they gone mad?

I just can't get over how one site MS paid DF to say good things about the hardware?

I have been around for a very long time but this is by far the worse generation I have been in.

WTF is wrong with these people?

They talk sh*t on xbox one for 3 years and then they call DF over and all of sudden they get upset because they didnt get the invite?

You expect MS to send an invite after YOU tashed them. Then get up set because they didn't include you?

This is the reason why TXB was born because this happened back in 2000 but no where like this.
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Come with me to electrical
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Sep 12, 2013
Buffalo, NY
MS is the polar opposite of Apple. Apple rips out the headphone jack, and people love how the company is forcing them to upgrade.

MS gives you a more powerful OPTION and they get crapped on. People who want one company to eliminate the other need to have Madden get stuck in their console and be the only game they can play. Take a good look at what zero competition does for gaming.
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