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This is confirmed to be an old build, new OS smoother and faster.......
This OS next to the PS4........night & day........difference
Outside of engine builder like Epic & Crytek. 343i is one of the best studio in getting maximum visual out of the machine. I will be surprise MS did not set a hard 1080/60 requirement, & harder to believe if they cannot deliver top visual, on any plaform on xbox one.Me too, can't wait.
343i and Turn 10 are possibly MS' best first party studios, can't wait for Master Chief in 1080p 60fps!
PS has some of the best first party studios under their belt with award winners coming out of their wazzoo... Look at what they achieved with the difficult to develop for restricted by limitations PS3 console! ( They have Naughty Dog, that's it.......)
I think PS haters are only going to get more angry as this generation progresses. (I have been angry since they killed the Dreamcast by signing exclusive deals with publishers)
Rumors already claim TF is not 1080p natively on X1, I will be f***ing pissed if Halo 5 does not reach the 1080p (native) 60fps that was promised @ E3 and Forza 5 is only but a testament of the X1's capabilities. (where the fudding hell did you get all this from......Gaf I guess)
Don't get me wrong, the X1 is a capable system, but the PS4 is more powerful and easier to develop for. (so your a developer yes, your basing this on what exactly? BF4 and COD????)
There's enough love for both systems, no need for people to make outrageous claims because they may not be happy with launch titles not being as good as the competitions. (I hope your taking the pi** here as otherwise.......re-read what you typed here)
The X1 has taken the position the PS3 had last/this generation, it still held it's own! (wow. just wow. please tell me the lotto numbers as clearly you have time travelled forward 10 years and come back to announce this)......
Dude you're preaching to the choir about long time Xbox Supporters. It's still my console of choice, and it will continue to be for the foreseeable future. I can understand where some people are coming from, trust me I do, but I really think that a lot of this is overblown because the reality of it is the majority of people making all of this noise are people that are just following the hype of X1 hate. If specs and resolution are really that important, why not play on PC? Getting these consoles to reach and maintain 1080p 60fps would cost gamers more than what we are currently paying.
Fact is that you're getting a lot for 500 bucks, but if what you're getting isn't what you want, then yeah go buy a PS4. But I love my Xbox and I look forward to see what MS does with the X1.
I said this before though, if Apple was currently doing what MS is doing, everyone would be all over them calling them heroes and geniuses.
The X1 will be in a much better position than the PS3 was when it launched. They are launching at the same time, pixel-counting WILL NOT matter as much as many people think (the actual end products and marketing will trump it easily), and MS is offering a very innovative product, not just another game machine.
The part many people who are debating this now fail to get, is that we will not be a big factor in deciding the winner, the mass market will be. Call them casuals, new gamers, multimedia enthusiasts, whatever... the point is MS is looking to break NEW ground here, not just sell another system to those of us who already own one or more.
It's just an opinion, but MS is going to win this gen based on the sum of it's parts, not any one thing. They certainly aren't going to loose because a few launch games had less pixels than the competition.
The part many people who are debating this now fail to get, is that we will not be a big factor in deciding the winner, the mass market will be. Call them casuals, new gamers, multimedia enthusiasts, whatever... the point is MS is looking to break NEW ground here, not just sell another system to those of us who already own one or more.
It's just an opinion, but MS is going to win this gen based on the sum of it's parts, not any one thing. They certainly aren't going to loose because a few launch games had less pixels than the competition.
Right, some claim that Microsoft is doing the same thing Sony did with PS3, but it cannot be the same because time changed. Sony went way ahead and promised something they cannot fulfill; Microsoft, on the other hand, promises what is possible day 1 on almost every front except maybe for cloud processing.
If you see the ads right now, you can easily see that Microsoft is actually ahead of Sony in terms of marketing. Sony's only focus in marketing right now is game, and their exclusive launch title, as good as it looks, is only one. Seriously, one. The rest of the game are available on Xbox One as well. They are inferior, has worse graphics. etc. Okay, okay, we get it. But when one try to explain how 'inferior' Xbox One is, their eyes are already on Forza 5, Ryse and Dead Rising 3. Titanfall also. And this is not the only focus of the console. X1 ads show robust movie and music lineup people already know and got used to.
Like Sheep Shagger mentioned above, it's not us that makes a console successful. It's the rest of the people, or maybe everyone. As far as I agree that X1's spec might be "30% inferior to" PS4, not all people's priority is that. See non-gaming communities and how X1's various functions turn out to be a selling point. I, for one, prepared to stream the **** out of everything as well. This is not about why PS4 sucks and X1 rocks. I believe both are pretty good. What really sucks is this entitled attitude of hardcore gamers who thknk that they are the most important race in the world. They/we are not. One really needs to go beyond gaming.
If you see the ads right now, you can easily see that Microsoft is actually ahead of Sony in terms of marketing. Sony's only focus in marketing right now is game, and their exclusive launch title, as good as it looks, is only one. Seriously, one. The rest of the game are available on Xbox One as well. They are inferior, has worse graphics. etc. Okay, okay, we get it. But when one try to explain how 'inferior' Xbox One is, their eyes are already on Forza 5, Ryse and Dead Rising 3. Titanfall also. And this is not the only focus of the console. X1 ads show robust movie and music lineup people already know and got used to.
Like Sheep Shagger mentioned above, it's not us that makes a console successful. It's the rest of the people, or maybe everyone. As far as I agree that X1's spec might be "30% inferior to" PS4, not all people's priority is that. See non-gaming communities and how X1's various functions turn out to be a selling point. I, for one, prepared to stream the **** out of everything as well. This is not about why PS4 sucks and X1 rocks. I believe both are pretty good. What really sucks is this entitled attitude of hardcore gamers who thknk that they are the most important race in the world. They/we are not. One really needs to go beyond gaming.
I think we will see the gap narrowed on games with engines built specifically for next gen. I'm no tech expert but looking at numbers like 32mb of esram, it seems to ne the X1 is set up to take advantage of tiled rendering. MS have bet that this will be the way devs develop in the future and since this is supported on the X1 at a hardware level I expect the X1 to even eclipse the PS4.
As Flynn stated the other day, MS are best positioned to take advantage of the GPU compute technology that is evolving on the cloud so I can only see the X1 getting much stronger over time.
I am disappointed slightly that there will be a difference initially between multi platform games but I truly believe MS will turn it around with software tools.
MS definitely haven't forgotten about us core gamers, dedicated servers, cloud computing a billion dollars on games, exclusive content first.
No, MS are far from stupid and they haven't let me down in the 11 years I've been playing an Xbox.
As Flynn stated the other day, MS are best positioned to take advantage of the GPU compute technology that is evolving on the cloud so I can only see the X1 getting much stronger over time.
I am disappointed slightly that there will be a difference initially between multi platform games but I truly believe MS will turn it around with software tools.
MS definitely haven't forgotten about us core gamers, dedicated servers, cloud computing a billion dollars on games, exclusive content first.
No, MS are far from stupid and they haven't let me down in the 11 years I've been playing an Xbox.
Besides the graphical improvements and the games, I really think the new dash will draw folks in. It is new and very different in the video game industry and from the videos it looks amazing. I am drawn to it because I love my Surface rt and this looks like a giant 52 inch one. 
This is confirmed. Cloud processing is real and we have no reason to believe it's not.
Other than that, I agree with you on everything you said.
( They have Naughty Dog, that's it.......)
Disagreed.
I didn't label you as a PS hater (most of my posts are generalized), if you are one though, then I think you'll continue being angry.
(where the fudding hell did you get all this from......Gaf I guess)
Where did I get what; that Halo 5 was promised to be 1080p 60fps? That was from E3.
That Forza 5 is a testament that the X1 has power and is a capable system; that was from observation and info of the X1 specs.
Or did you mean rumors of Titanfall not being native 1080p?
Here read this:
Does that sound like it came from NeoGAF to you? Hey I get it, you're not happy about it and want to vent, you keep saying resolution does not matter, so why you mad at me for?
Take it up with Eurogamer and Respawn Entertainment.
(so your a developer yes, your basing this on what exactly? BF4 and COD????)
Numbers do not lie, specs have been known for enough time now, the X1 is the weaker spec system, MS has the software know how to make the experience great, don't let your preference cloud your ability to see the specs and understand them for yourself.
(I hope your taking the pi** here as otherwise.......re-read what you typed here)
Not sure if serious...
(wow. just wow. please tell me the lotto numbers as clearly you have time travelled forward 10 years and come back to announce this)......
Don't be silly now.
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Well, cloud processing as Microsoft promised is not possible day 1, and I don't think Microsoft wanted to design the console that way anyways. But it's coming. It's not PS3 days of hollow promise, the tech is almost there.
Then you have every right to say you don't believe what you've seen is game play. What you can't do is say that "we haven't seen gameplay, regardless of what the devs say." Your opinion doesn't hold veto power over everyone else.
Really? Ok i didn't know that. Cause some people seemed to claim Forza 5 was the 4 engine with lots of improvements. FIFA and NBA are all brand new engines? But isn't the engine of BF4 kinda new too? If this is truly the reason....it will be sometime before it gets better for multiplats on X1.
The "new" engine claim is a little complex. As a matter of fact, nobody writes an engine from the ground up. That's impossible and pointless. When things change so much that you have a whole bunch of new tech applied to your engine, then developers usually call it a new engine. Forza 5 I believe will use a lot of existing code from Forza 4, but a lot must have been rewritten to make a transition from PPC to x86, and of course lighting is more robust. Same with NBA. FIFA is the only tricky situation... if EA Sports games were using the same engine across all games in the last gen, then I'm sure a lot of the codes are copied and it really is just an update. But if not, that means a lot of developers gathered around for the first time to develop an engine to be used universally all around EA Sports games, and that really is a new engine.
To be fair, we don't know that TF will be 1080p and although at least some of the rumorpeddlers have been vindicated, I'm not about to believe the patch for BF will bring it to 1080. And I don't think the PS4 falling on its arse or not is a measure of anything. I am confident the X1 will give me games that I enjoy and make me feel like the purchase was validated, full stop.
Bf is running on Frostbite 3. BF3 was running on Frostbite 2. Frostbite is an incredibly powerful engine, I'd love to see an RPG using that.
You'll have one. It's called Dragon Age Inquisition. There are some gameplay on Youtube, and it looks just like what you'd expect. Dragon Age built on Frostbite. Period.
It's not something that can be changed via patch as far as I understand. One needs to rewrite maybe a bit too much thing to change that. The upcoming games, on the other hand...
But that is whats worrying me a little, Frostbite is brandnew and will be used for many games to come. But it could be anything, all we can do is speculate and assume.
If it can't be patched in, that would suck. Lets just hope future games like Watch_Dogs, Destiny and so on, that the problem has been ironed out by then.
Microsoft considering digital game gifting for Xbox One?
Functionality won't be there at launch, but is a feature Microsoft would like to implement "one day".
Functionality won't be there at launch, but is a feature Microsoft would like to implement "one day".
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As for Watch Dogs it was supposed to be a launch title so I'm not sure, but Destiny and Titanfall? Let's hope so.
I think people need to relax and just enjoy the system that they are buying. This reminds me of when I first bought my 360. I knew the upcoming ps3 would be more powerful but I bought it anyway. 5 months after ps3 comes out, I bought that too. I found myself playing far more of my 360, even though there were quite a few sony exclusives that looked better (which I played as they came out.) The reason for this is they had a better UI for me, I just enjoy the 360 dash and apps more. This is looking to be the same when X1 come out. I enjoy the live infrastructure far more. Again, I will probably get a ps4 in 5 months. Though I will admit I can do with out the executive arrogance I saw over the summer. They reminded me of the nerdy/ugly guys or girls in those old teen movies that suddenly become popular and become asses. Just my personal feelings though, maybe at 39 I am getting too old for the console wars. (I lost a great many friends in the war of 92').
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You can thank me for this. I've been pestering everyone for the past couple of months about it.
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