The Xbox One Thread

[David]

[quoten="Tazz3, post: 47120, member: 181"]Do we need kincet to play all games this kincet is what is stoping mr from geting x1[/quote]

No man you can actually turn the kinect off. All you need the kinect for is kinect games. Get the X1 i think you will like what the kinect is doing.DR3 if you make noise the zombies will notice.

 

[Andy]

Yossarian is on a break.

 

[Dno69]

Do we need kincet to play all games this kincet is what is stoping mr from geting x1

No Graz. Kinect seems to been relegated to certain genres or UI functionality/voice command.

Even former Kinect games like Ryse and Crimson Dragon are controller based now.

I don't think you even have to take Kinect out of the box.

 

[David]

Yossarian is on a break.

Thank you!

 

[Dno69]

Thanks Anderson.

I didn't want to report since I like to hear people out. But dude was reminding me of Puppeteer.

 

[Ketto]

You know he was coke head right, and that a lot of what was though to be phycoligy is not accepted by modern phycoligist.

Psychologically even.

 

[Slayer]

Yossarian is on a break.

Danke. Seems like trolls have taken over a lot of the threads, it's a shame because there's some great peeps on here.

 

[Tazz3]

Thanks dino 69

 

[David]

Psychologically even.

Don't know if that was an insult, which you normally have for me(not mad at you I just think weird, and outside the box) ,but since I wasn't put on a break or banned I will take it as a compliment. If I'm wrong please don't let me know. Have to wake up in 5hrs for work. I can go to bed knowing that at least one time we are in agreement. Just kidding man let em rip. Wouldn't be a good place if people couldn't disagree! That guy was seriously crossing the line of respectful conversation.

I dont even know what that means!

I think he means the guy is just not in it for the money. He likes what his company does and wants them to succeed in areas besides financially. i.e. making great games.

 

[xbgamer7]

Again ketto is always wrong.

 

[Ketto]

Again ketto is always wrong.

lol, so angry.

Don't know if that was an insult, which you normally have for me(not mad at you I just think weird, and outside the box) ,but since I wasn't put on a break or banned I will take it as a compliment. If I'm wrong please don't let me know. Have to wake up in 5hrs for work. I can go to bed knowing that at least one time we are in agreement. Just kidding man let em rip. Wouldn't be a good place if people couldn't disagree! That guy was seriously crossing the line of respectful conversation.

It wasn't an insult; I was just pointing out your spelling error. You're completely fine.

 

[A7]

Guys, no one needs to get pissed and no one needs to troll this, the hardware specs when revealed were pretty telling.

My honest opinion is that both MS and Sony could have/should have released their consoles with more powerful hardware. I mentioned this back in Feb @ TXB and was ridiculed for it.

X1 and PS4 are generally great for their exclusives.

If you have both then you have the option/choice to pick and choose...

The industry is big enough for the consumer to show all platforms some love.

 

[Dmega007]

Guys, no one needs to get pissed and no one needs to troll this, the hardware specs when revealed were pretty telling.

My honest opinion is that both MS and Sony could have/should have released their consoles with more powerful hardware. I mentioned this back in Feb @ TXB and was ridiculed for it.

X1 and PS4 are generally great for their exclusives.

If you have both then you have the option/choice to pick and choose...

The industry is big enough for the consumer to show all platforms some love.

Not only that but each company has different ideas. Sony built a console that's more gaming oriented that anything. Stronger than the X1, but it's not anything to drool over.

MS built a machine that's tailored to not just gaming, but entertainment as a whole. Their entire company is focused on it and shifted it's direction to that. Smartglass is actually really cool, and I can see people using it often in the future. Yes, the X1 could be a lot stronger, but since most of us are primarily gamers, we have look at it as gaming console, and then everything else.

There could be a lot of reasons for MS' decision to do that. As it's been reported, their hardware sales aren't the best and investors want to drop the Xbox Brand. What better way to innovate and change it around by turning the console into a one size fits all machine.

When an artist works on a song, they create the music they want to make. Some fans like it and some won't, but they followed their hearts. MS believes that they can do something big with the X1, and they think that gaming isn't the biggest priority anymore.

It's their vision with their machine, if people don't like it, don't buy it. And I can promise you that if this was Apple in MS' place, people would call Apple geniuses.

 

[A7]

That's the risk they along with Sony take.

 

[Mynd]

It's apparently an issue with eSRAM and deferred shading.

"Only DDR3 for system/GPU memory pared with 32MB of “ESRAM” sounds troubling. 32MB of ESRAM is only really enough to do forward shading with MSAA using only 32-bits/pixel color with 2xMSAA at 1080p or 4xMSAA at 720p. Anything else to ESRAM would require tiling and resolves like on the Xbox360 (which would likely be a DMA copy on 720) or attempting to use the slow DDR3 as a render target. I’d bet most titles attempting deferred shading will be stuck at 720p with only poor post process AA (like FXAA)."

Timothy Lottes
FXAA creator
http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/10/call-of-duty-ghosts-may-be-confirmed-at-720p-on-xbox-one/

Thats assuming you are aiming to target the entire framebuffer in to the ESRAM, which we know they don't have to.
DMA engine shoud also mean tiling is anone issue anyway.

 

[A7]

Dead Rising 3 season pass detailed

Priced at $29.99 (or your local equivalent), the Season Pass will contain four add-on packs, each ordinarily priced at $10.

The expansions are entitled: Operation Broken Eagle, Fallen Angel, Chaos Rising, and The Last Angel. Each chapter will offer a new playable character as well as new missions, weapons and more. While the DLC packs have yet to be dated, Capcom said they'll start rolling out in late December.

Additionally, Season Pass owners will get the "Nick Ramos Tribute Pack," which includes a sweet muscle car and an alternate, battle-scarred skin for the player character.

 

[A7]

Titanfall Will Make Use of One Shared Cloud for the Xbox One, PC, and Xbox 360

In an interesting turn of events, Vince Zampella has stated on [URL='https://twitter.com/VinceZampella/status/395591235412312064']Twitter

that the Xbox One is not the only platform that will make use of the cloud for Titanfall, but the Xbox 360 and PC platforms will as well. All three, apparently, will be sharing the same cloud.



And if you didn’t know already, the benefits of Titanfall using the azure cloud greatly helps the gaming experience, from better AI, offloading CPU processing, faster matchmaking, and many others Check out the article on IGN.com to see the full list of features available in Titanfall when using the cloud.

Use of the cloud was definitely confirmed for the Xbox One, but it sounds as if the PC and Xbox 360 will also reap the benefits as well. This is especially big news if any of the CPU processing on the Xbox 360 is offloaded to the cloud, which could result in the Xbox 360 version of the game looking leagues better than other shooters in the 360 market. We’ll update on more details as they arise.

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[Mcmasters]

Titanfall Will Make Use of One Shared Cloud for the Xbox One, PC, and Xbox 360

This could be a great test with Cloud and the 360. I think we could see just how well Cloud helps with offload and what it means for graphical fidelity. I'm interested...

 

[A7]

Adam Boyes Of Sony Knew The Resolution Of CoD on Xbox One

Too big a piece for us to forget, the news of [URL='http://doddscientifics.com/2013/10/25/call-of-duty-720p-albert-penello-neogaf-and-twitter-a-dramatic-retelling/']famousmortimer

breaking the news about the resolution of COD (720p) on the Xbox One, is still looming in our minds. Completely against this “rumor” is Albert Penello, Senior Director of Product and Planning at MS who has vehemently tried to avoid commenting on any statements regarding the resolution issues.



Well, a new contender has entered this rumor/controversy fray: Adam Boyes. Working in Publisher and Developer Relations at Sony, Adam is implying that Albert knew the resolution on of Call of Duty on the Xbox One, whereas Albert Penello and Phil Spencer vehemently either deny or skirt the topic all together, implying that they didn’t lie about any of the proposed resolution PR statements. Adam’s tweet comes in at an interesting time, and implies that there’s more than innocent PR mishaps occurring at MS.

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[griff_dai]

Is everyone assuming that the X1 can't do native 1080p???? Forza is 1080p native ????? I'm confused as to why people think the 2nd generation titles will not play put 1080p????? If you put the two systems next to each other X1 looks light years ahead of Sony's machine....... Destiny and Titanfall will be 1080p on both systems and then you will see your 1st test......I'm sure Ubisoft will also produce at 1080p.....

I seriously don't know what all the fuss is about...

 

[The Wolf King]

Because its pretty much all future PS4 owners have at the moment with a weak launch line up.

Comparisons were classed as pointless for most of this gen. And again unless told most gamers wont know what resolution a game is running in. Or care.

 

[starseeker]

Not only that but each company has different ideas. Sony built a console that's more gaming oriented that anything. Stronger than the X1, but it's not anything to drool over.

MS built a machine that's tailored to not just gaming, but entertainment as a whole. Their entire company is focused on it and shifted it's direction to that. Smartglass is actually really cool, and I can see people using it often in the future. Yes, the X1 could be a lot stronger, but since most of us are primarily gamers, we have look at it as gaming console, and then everything else.

There could be a lot of reasons for MS' decision to do that. As it's been reported, their hardware sales aren't the best and investors want to drop the Xbox Brand. What better way to innovate and change it around by turning the console into a one size fits all machine.

When an artist works on a song, they create the music they want to make. Some fans like it and some won't, but they followed their hearts. MS believes that they can do something big with the X1, and they think that gaming isn't the biggest priority anymore.

It's their vision with their machine, if people don't like it, don't buy it. And I can promise you that if this was Apple in MS' place, people would call Apple geniuses.

I think if you are a rational person, you will not care if the XBOX turn into a media machine, as long as there are games coming. It was not making the XBOX on par with PS4 spec wise that is causing the drama we ahve now.

Remember a while ago, before MS finalise their hardware, everyone was up in arms hoping for news that MS will add extra ram or improve their hardware, that never happen eventually. We had MS coming out to tell us there is not big differences in the performance, that they have the best engineers, ensuring us that COD are running at 1080 60 fps.

Maybe some people here are getting emotional, but the anger & disappointment from some people including myself is understandable. Many of us are long time XBOX supporters, & definitely not troll (though there is a few known one here, like cutting & his clones).

But I guess we have to wait for a year or 2 after the consoles are launched, the media/TV functions tested, kinect tested, & we have non launch windows games to see if MS made the right decisions, are XBOX as capable performance wise, or kinect/smartglass & voice comands, & access to free delicated servers are game changers.

MS does have much better launch games, & halo & Titanfall awaiting, so theer are still good reason for xbox purchase. After looking at PS4 lineup, I now know why they keep talking about killzone, as this is their only decent launch title, conviencly nopt mention, it is another militray FPS, a point often bought up targetting at xbox, an FPS machine.

 

[de3d1]

I kinda wish XB1 had s***ty exclusives so I could just get away with having a ps4 only this gen, that would have been ideal. Selfish I know.

 

[A7]

I'm glad the 'mature gamers' are behaving so unlike the NeoGAF douchebags hating on the X1.

If you put the two systems next to each other X1 looks light years ahead of Sony's machine.......

Wow, that's so not correct.

 

[A7]

 

[griff_dai]

I'm glad the 'mature gamers' are behaving so unlike the NeoGAF douchebags hating on the X1.



Wow, that's so not correct.

Well not light years ahead.........I think the PS4 will fall on its arse when people see what the X1 can do.
1080p Forza
1080p Halo 5
1080p Titanfall

all 1st party, only available on X1.......

Something else, if EA manage to up the BF4 X1 to 900p I think they might just nail the COD coffin shut........

 

[A7]

PS has some of the best first party studios under their belt with award winners coming out of their wazzoo... Look at what they achieved with the difficult to develop for restricted by limitations PS3 console!

I think PS haters are only going to get more angry as this generation progresses.

Rumors already claim TF is not 1080p natively on X1, I will be f***ing pissed if Halo 5 does not reach the 1080p (native) 60fps that was promised @ E3 and Forza 5 is only but a testament of the X1's capabilities.

Don't get me wrong, the X1 is a capable system, but the PS4 is more powerful and easier to develop for.

There's enough love for both systems, no need for people to make outrageous claims because they may not be happy with launch titles not being as good as the competitions.

The X1 has taken the position the PS3 had last/this generation, it still held it's own!

 

[Blandina]

I will be f***ing pissed if Halo 5 does not reach the 1080p (native) 60fps that was prominsed

I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 5 were the first truly DX 11.2 game using tiled resources. Looks like X1 were designed with DX 11.2 games in mind. The multi platform games now runs better on ps4 standard hardware, we have to wait a little before X1 will show its full potential. We have oc Ryse and Forza now, so we know X1 is an awesome machine, but frostengine 3 needs some work before it fully supports tiled resources.

I can easily live with that, and in 3 weeks i'm playing X1 games. Looking forward :-)

 

[A7]

Me too, can't wait.

343i and Turn 10 are possibly MS' best first party studios, can't wait for Master Chief in 1080p 60fps!

 

[A7]

Xbox One UI (XDK).