Microsoft At E3 2018

I thought DMC would be exclusive to sony? Not only that it'll look best on Xbox. Not what I expected.
 
Most of which weren't exclusive, so eh.

They really needed to announce some big new AAA franchises. That didn't happen.

Ori looked beautiful, though. And Halo Infinity will be good, I'm sure.

Best on Xbox One X is a good bragging point for a lot of those games, though.
 
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So I guess Remedy’s game is going to show at Sony’s conference as well I guess?
Also what was up with the Bungie rumors?
 
https://www.destructoid.com/microso...fallout-4-out-on-game-pass-today-507166.phtml

So yeah, I think they said it either uses pre-existing data or machine learning to cut the delivery times for playability in half. What's really interesting, is that the head of Xbox Game Pass is the one to drop that info. Will either Game Pass games or first party titles get preferential treatment?...

I've always been surprised at how long it takes to play games on X1X compared to PS4, for a software company MS sure is lagging behind Sony in areas like how long it takes to start playing a game once you start to download it and the ease of using the share features. The menu on the One X is also a lot clunkier than the one on the PS4 Pro as well, it hangs up a lot more for some reason.
 
I've always been surprised at how long it takes to play games on X1X compared to PS4, for a software company MS sure is lagging behind Sony in areas like how long it takes to start playing a game once you start to download it and the ease of using the share features. The menu on the One X is also a lot clunkier than the one on the PS4 Pro as well, it hangs up a lot more for some reason.
Same can be said about 360/PS3 last gen.

For a hardware company like Sony, the games took forever to load and install vs. MS's ancient DVD-inspired 360.

X UI is clunky? Maybe Xbox One OG, but X and the dashboard updates are super fast.
 
This was kind of a weird conference.

I wonder how many people would have picked up an XBox One back in 2013 if you told them "This generation all you're really going to get are more Halo, Gears, and Forza for the duration of the gen."

I mean, did Microsoft establish a single new IP that will take them into the next gen with the One?

What an odd odd idea.
 
This was kind of a weird conference.

I wonder how many people would have picked up an XBox One back in 2013 if you told them "This generation all you're really going to get are more Halo, Gears, and Forza for the duration of the gen."

I mean, did Microsoft establish a single new IP that will take them into the next gen with the One?

What an odd odd idea.
You realize Xbox does have fortnite , right ? You know the game that all the pros athletes even play. What other games would you actually even be interested in?
 
You realize Xbox does have fortnite , right ? You know the game that all the pros athletes even play. What other games would you actually even be interested in?

I would just assume, back in 2013, that we'd still get a handful of new AAA exclusive IP born this generation from MS. It doesn't look like we're getting that.
 
This was kind of a weird conference.

I wonder how many people would have picked up an XBox One back in 2013 if you told them "This generation all you're really going to get are more Halo, Gears, and Forza for the duration of the gen."

I mean, did Microsoft establish a single new IP that will take them into the next gen with the One?

What an odd odd idea.
I guess it was worse than we all thought, last year and before? I mean, I still thought the show this year was was really great, but you are correct about new IPs. all the acquisitions as an announcement seems like a more recent approach to their whole commitment mantra, with regards to your new IPs.
 
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This was kind of a weird conference.

I wonder how many people would have picked up an XBox One back in 2013 if you told them "This generation all you're really going to get are more Halo, Gears, and Forza for the duration of the gen."

I mean, did Microsoft establish a single new IP that will take them into the next gen with the One?

What an odd odd idea.

This generation was a learning experience for every major corporation who jumps in or stays in gaming going forward. Gaming enthusiast...the hardcore control the rhetoric and take the masses with them when it comes to the majority of the console market. Microsoft finally got on board. It took time and reshuffling. This gen is a lost cause. They are clearly ramping up for 2020 and beyond. As much as Microsoft doesn't believe in generations, they'll be happy if most consumers do. Anything to cut ties completely with 2013. This was Microsoft's WiiU.

I'd still have purchased Xbox though. 80% of what I buy is multiplat, Halo still sells me systems and the Elite controller makes all other controllers feel like ish.
 
This was kind of a weird conference.

I wonder how many people would have picked up an XBox One back in 2013 if you told them "This generation all you're really going to get are more Halo, Gears, and Forza for the duration of the gen."

I mean, did Microsoft establish a single new IP that will take them into the next gen with the One?

What an odd odd idea.

I get what you’re saying. But that’s not all I got with the Xbox One.
 
I get what you’re saying. But that’s not all I got with the Xbox One.
Yeah, I mean this year they released State of Decay two and Sea of theives. Maybe not what everybody wanted, but those are still attempts. MS has tried a number of times, huge success or not.
Halo Forza and Gears don't have to be absent for other games to exist. It's not even THAT big of a deal, imo, as I have an endless backlog anyway. Their platform is being well supported.
 
I’m surprised to see some of the bigger Xbox fans disappointed and some PS fans kind of impressed.

The platform looks far more compelling going into next gen. No real lift in system wars/list wars this gen since Gears, Forza and Indies no longer count. Xbox fans are too sensitive to that stuff.

Multiplat developers are hitting a high point this gen. For anyone who’s a gamer and not obsessed with list wars, the X is a great platform with the best multiplats, enhanced back compat, 1st release for some good Indies and Game Pass. There will be 100s of games on both platforms.

Exclusives will be far more critical in 3 years when Microsoft wants to leverage their investment in AI, physics, cloud compute and support Game Pass. 1st party barely will move the needle the next 2 years.

Kudos to Sony for setting the bar with story driven games. Anyone hoping that Microsoft was going to bring out haymakers to end this gen and equal that were unrealistic.
 
The platform looks far more compelling going into next gen. No real lift in system wars/list wars this gen since Gears, Forza and Indies no longer count. Xbox fans are too sensitive to that stuff.

Multiplat developers are hitting a high point this gen. For anyone who’s a gamer and not obsessed with list wars, the X is a great platform with the best multiplats, enhanced back compat, 1st release for some good Indies and Game Pass. There will be 100s of games on both platforms.

Exclusives will be far more critical in 3 years when Microsoft wants to leverage their investment in AI, physics, cloud compute and support Game Pass. 1st party barely will move the needle the next 2 years.

Kudos to Sony for setting the bar with story driven games. Anyone hoping that Microsoft was going to bring out haymakers to end this gen and equal that were unrealistic.
Not really sure there will be a next gen. From what Phil has stated, we should see at least the Xbox One X compatible with the next Xbox as well and game working on both. So I think we are good to go as is.
 
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I would just assume, back in 2013, that we'd still get a handful of new AAA exclusive IP born this generation from MS. It doesn't look like we're getting that.
There was also Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break. Just because they didn't turn out to be AAA world busters doesn't mean they sucked. MS has just shown a tendency to abandon IPs that don't immediately resonate with the masses.

Regardless of how it turns out, they also committed to bringing CD3 over to this gen, as well as Battletoads (I assume will be this gen).
 
There was also Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break. Just because they didn't turn out to be AAA world busters doesn't mean they sucked. MS has just shown a tendency to abandon IPs that don't immediately resonate with the masses.

Regardless of how it turns out, they also committed to bringing CD3 over to this gen, as well as Battletoads (I assume will be this gen).

Yeah, I know about those games but you get my point.

I don't even think Sony did an awesome job in this area either, but compared to Microsoft, much much better.

It's just feeling like this generation was a "rest" generation for Microsoft. Hopefully they will do a better job competing starting 2020 and beyond.

BtW, does anyone know how big that first studio was they announced? The Initiative or something like that? Is that a potential AAA studio or more of an indie one in terms of size?
 
Not really sure there will be a next gen. From what Phil has stated, we should see at least the Xbox One X compatible with the next Xbox as well and game working on both. So I think we are good to go as is.

Trust me, XBox One X won't be able to play XBox Two games. There will be a clean cut once the next generation XBox hits.
 
Not really sure there will be a next gen. From what Phil has stated, we should see at least the Xbox One X compatible with the next Xbox as well and game working on both. So I think we are good to go as is.

This is true. For context, I’m simply referring to new consoles. There’s no reason the X won’t be a viable place to play the next wave of games. It’s just that there will be better ways to play those games by the time they come out.

Physics, frame rate, lighting and graphics all easily scale. I’ll be curious about the next gen AI they work on. We’ve never seen AI scale before.