Microsoft At E3 2018

Call me nuts, but its possible Microsoft is sending out all these rumors of late to get people off their scent. They've been SUPER silent for a while now.

I told a fellow forumite that there are "sources" who claim Crackdown is delayed, but I don't think its wise to run with that unless it officially comes from Microsoft.

My take, after the last showing with the gaming community ripping CD3 to shreds and Microsoft having to delay the game, I don't think it'll be delayed again. They've had ample time to remedy what was wrong (though I thought it looked like Crackdown, which is what I want as a fan..) with the game since then. I think it'll show up this E3, and delivered this year.

Its probably more likely Microsoft leaked it on purpose to get the disappointment out of the way before the show
 
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Yeah the problem wasn't announcing too early Its having too poor of an investment and too poor of a vision. If their first party house is in order than everything should be on the table when it comes to when to announce a game. They don't need to announce early but they shouldn't be afraid to either.



I think it really matters. Crackdown wasn't some massive hit so it would get swallowed up by the Red Deads of the world. If they are serious about its success then it needs the right release window.

I don't. Other games will release around those and do well. As I said, all those interested in Crackdown will get Crackdown when ever it releases.
 
I don't. Other games will release around those and do well. As I said, all those interested in Crackdown will get Crackdown when ever it releases.

Exactly and that's not exactly a lot of people .. This has been in development for so long that it probably needs to sell a decent amount to even break even.
 
I don't. Other games will release around those and do well. As I said, all those interested in Crackdown will get Crackdown when ever it releases.

And plenty will move out of there as well

They have to be able to sell the game to more than just those who are sure about it today. Word of mouth matters.
 
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Wow, so people are up in arms about a possible delay in Crackdown 3, and yet everyone was up in arms about how Crackdown 3 isn't a good AAA title, looks like crap, second one was garbage, blah blah, it's not a single player focus, blah blah.

Gotta love it.
 
Changed their E3 strategy recently?... Maybe they are just staying the course that they talked about last year, but these things take time to be able to actually bare fruit. Game development takes years. I'm not sure how they would show anything at E3 that hasn't been incubated for some time (other than a blank announcement).

Admittedly I speculate and throw ish against the wall regularly. I should probably put a disclaimer in my signature.

It’s just odd for a Microsoft conference that Insiders and people closest to leaks went from neutral/negative to positive overnight.

I’m sure there was no breakthroughs on games in development. Maybe Spencer had a change of heart in terms of what they’d show oppose to hold back. Maybe some business deals just got done. Just interesting.
 
Wow, so people are up in arms about a possible delay in Crackdown 3, and yet everyone was up in arms about how Crackdown 3 isn't a good AAA title, looks like crap, second one was garbage, blah blah, it's not a single player focus, blah blah.

Gotta love it.

I find the up in arms about Crackdown to be fake. I was up in arms about what they revealed last year because while I’m sure it would be fun, it’s not a good look to promote something as a AAA industry changing game and then only show what looked like a AA quality game. That was the time for everyone to get their two cents in.

Before this delay, there were already rumors Microsoft was going to double down and give Crackdown the proper AAA funding. This delay gives that rumor more credence. Getting fake scared for the health of Xbox while they’re in the middle of buying and building studios and doubling down on a game in development makes no damned sense.
 
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Its probably more likely Microsoft leaked it on purpose to get the disappointment out of the way before the show

That's what I was thinking, too. Get the groans out of the way.

I bet the surprise will take the form of Crackdown looking good for a change, with some healthy new modes (e.g., battle royale) added to help justify the wait. People will come away excited and optimistic about it, rather than disappointed to hear it's delayed.
 
That's what I was thinking, too. Get the groans out of the way.

I bet the surprise will take the form of Crackdown looking good for a change, with some healthy new modes (e.g., battle royale) added to help justify the wait.

Don't MAKE ME spank you.
 


Lol DreamcastGuy. I watched a video of him defending Xbox One and the direction not long ago. He's a good guy, but all about the hits. E3 is going to be massive for Microsoft. They obviously have some big things in the works.
 
Another Jez Tweet: "Virtually all my Xbox E3 predictions were wrong lmao (and it's a good thing)."

Some of his initial quotes:

"not expecting a huge amount of new first-party IP to appear at this year's E3."

"A relatively low key affair"

"We might not see the fruits of this reorganization at E3 2018, it's simply too early. "



So apparently those above predictions are wrong based on new info....
 
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I don't even know what value Sega would bring other than just re-releasing old games on Game Pass. Its just Sonic and a bunch of really good Japanese games that Microsoft isn't going to want.

They really don't need to make that big of a splash to right their first party ship.

Football Manager for the win! (Okay, SEGA only publishes it but still, I see their damn logo all the time when I have to restart the game).
 
Another Jez Tweet: "Virtually all my Xbox E3 predictions were wrong lmao (and it's a good thing)."

Some of his initial quotes:

"not expecting a huge amount of new first-party IP to appear at this year's E3."

"A relatively low key affair"

"We might not see the fruits of this reorganization at E3 2018, it's simply too early. "


So apparently those above predictions are wrong based on new info....

Excellent. :banana: woo woo
 
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I have to admit that I’m confused by why gamers are some of the least receptive to this technology. There’s nothing funny about it. When latency drops significantly in the next few years, streaming games will be completely viable. It’s the biggest reason Nadella and Microsoft’s investors have bought into Xbox. Without this on the horizon, they would’ve spun Xbox off.

Who cares how the games are being made playable as long as you get a premium experience? Do people love having that box under their TV that much?

5G’s secret weapon will be low latency, empowering next-gen VR and gaming

“5G dramatically improves both latency and data rates. It can cut response time down to 1-2 milliseconds (0.001 or 0.002 seconds) from 4G’s average 50 ms (0.05 seconds). Similarly, it can increase the data rate from 4G’s average 0.02-0.03 gigabits per second to between 0.1-5.0 Gbps.”

Good shout.
Ubisoft CEO agrees with your analysis on where we’re heading as far as game streaming and 5G could be taking gaming.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ext-generation-of-consoles-could-be-the-last/
 
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Xbox has everything to prove at E3
Microsoft arrives in LA with a heavy weight of expectation

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Compare and contrast [Sony] with its would-be main rival, Microsoft's Xbox division, and the differences are stark. Microsoft enters E3 with an enormous weight of expectation on its shoulders. Xbox has had a tough run this generation, but for a couple of years the company has been able to stave off the worst of the criticism of its anaemic slate of software by deflecting attention onto its hugely ambitious hardware project, Scorpio. [...]

This year, however, it's time for Microsoft to put up or shut up. In the background to its hyping of the Xbox One X over the past couple of years, the company has been talking a good game on software - making all the right noises to imply that it understands that it dropped the ball on first-party titles and exclusives, and is working hard in the background to get back on track. It stands to reason that you can't do that overnight; there is an inevitable time lag between realising that you've messed up by letting your first-party studio structure fall into decay and actually getting back to the point of announcing big games again.

This year, though, it's time for the firm to deliver on all those fine words. There's no new hardware to talk about, and a lengthy reiteration of the fine features of Xbox One X would honestly feel a little desperate at this point. Microsoft needs to bang the drum for software, software, software, beginning to end. A "winning" Xbox conference would need to excite people for a platform that's under-delivered thus far, and set out a compelling vision for why Xbox remains relevant. [....]

The stakes next week are all about Microsoft, the company entering E3 with much to gain and much to lose. For Sony to lose its footing right now would require something even worse than the giant-enemy-crab debacle of the early PS3 era, while Nintendo under-performing would be widely written off as the firm simply choosing to underplay its hand at E3 again, as is its wont. But it's Xbox that has something to prove, and it's not much of an exaggeration to say that, by this time next week, we'll have a pretty clear idea of whether Xbox is going to manage to stay relevant for the rest of this hardware generation or not.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-06-08-xbox-has-everything-to-prove-at-e3
 
Good shout.
Ubisoft CEO agrees with your analysis on where we’re heading as far as game streaming and 5G could be taking gaming.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ext-generation-of-consoles-could-be-the-last/

Yep gamers are grossly underrating this. Nobody in this forum would notice the quality drop a 2ms latency would cause over local hardware. Whatever quality difference there is would be offset by the fact that running from cloud would allow for much more processing power.
 
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ISP's would have to get rid of data caps and speed throttling for this to hit main stream.

There’s articles on this. Data caps would be so much higher that they become a non issue for average consumers. (And yes, gamers who stream would be considered average users). Competition would also increase.
 
I think when Game Pass takes off it won't matter so much other than spreading out your games somewhat to keep people subbed but we aren't there yet.

Doesn't matter now. Not entirely sure why gamepass has to''take off.'' $10 for a $60 game is all it needs to bring in those not dead set on it.
 
Doesn't matter now. Not entirely sure why gamepass has to''take off.'' $10 for a $60 game is all it needs to bring in those not dead set on it.

Microsoft's goal has to be to get a lot more people to sub than they have now. Until then they still have to sell copies of the game.
 
100 minutes jump out of a plane??!?
Hmm, nice catch.

My OMG moment of E3 would be a Halo Battle Royal game. It is entirely possible it's been in development for a long time. If MS took notice of PUBG in early 2017 and was actually forward thinking enough to the genre's success then they might have started working on something.

Which would be impressive because we all assume a Halo BR game would be reactionary to PUBG's success, meaning they would have JUST started to work on it. If they actually got ahead of it and started working on Halo BR before PUBG got massive than that's awesome.