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JinCA said:
343 hasn't made a really good Halo game yet, they seem to do ok with the MP portion but they've stunk when it comes to the campaign, the last Gears was the worst single player story of the main games as well.
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Halo 5's was fresh but ended too soon. And Gears 4 was actually too safe and similar to the previous ones. Both were good. The campaigns of those games didn't stink..wtf are you smoking?

Digital Joker said:
I'll do it for you. Forza is the only AAA title on that list annnnd that's a long running series.
Below? Seriously? And State of Decay 2 like Crackdown 3, is pretty much crap.
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Did you even play it!?! How dare you compare the awesome and addictive State of Decay 2 with Crackdown 3! ... How dare you!
 
Edge BC said:
Halo 5's was fresh but ended too soon. And Gears 4 was actually too safe and similar to the previous ones. Both were good. The campaigns of those games didn't stink..wtf are you smoking?



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Did you even play it!?! How dare you compare the awesome and addictive State of Decay 2 with Crackdown 3! ... How dare you!
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Played it and didn't like it at all. Look how fast if fell off the map despite centering around online play and being free day one with Game pass.
It's got 24 viewers on mixer at the moment. Farming simulator 19 has 29 viewers. Enough said.
 
Edge BC said:
Halo 5's was fresh but ended too soon. And Gears 4 was actually too safe and similar to the previous ones. Both were good. The campaigns of those games didn't stink..wtf are you smoking?



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Did you even play it!?! How dare you compare the awesome and addictive State of Decay 2 with Crackdown 3! ... How dare you!
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Halo 5's campaign was awful, you could totally tell they had no real direction for the story. The fact that the advertising built it up like there was going to be some big fight between MC and Locke only to have it be some lame quick emp style event take place was awful. The whole thing lacked vision, it seemed like they either had something else in mind and had to change things last minute and ran out of time OR they were just making it up as they went along. Either way it was the worst mainline halo campaign by far.
 
Digital Joker said:
Played it and didn't like it at all. Look how fast if fell off the map despite centering around online play and being free day one with Game pass.
It's got 24 viewers on mixer at the moment. Farming simulator 19 has 29 viewers. Enough said.
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That makes no sense..If Mixer numbers is an indication of how good a game is Sea of Thieves should be GOTY.
 
Edge BC said:
That makes no sense..If Mixer numbers is an indication of how good a game is Sea of Thieves should be GOTY.
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It does make sense because it's a good measuring stick of what people currently like. Everything with high viewing numbers is ethier wildly popular at the moment, a top rated game or just came out.
 
Digital Joker said:
Played it and didn't like it at all. Look how fast if fell off the map despite centering around online play and being free day one with Game pass.
It's got 24 viewers on mixer at the moment. Farming simulator 19 has 29 viewers. Enough said.
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Mixer usually has 29 viewers....total
 
Digital Joker said:
It does make sense because it's a good measuring stick of what people currently like. Everything with high viewing numbers is ethier wildly popular at the moment, a top rated game or just came out.
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Popular to stream yes..top rated no. Look at the numbers on Mixer and Twitch for top rated games..they don't even have many views.
 
Edge BC said:
Yes Andy, Moon Studios, The Coalition, 343 and Ninja Theory are going to bomb their game... Because Crackdown..
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Strawman. I wasn't saying that Crackdown alone meant everything in the future would be sh*t. I was talking about their track record. I don't need to go through the list. It's embarrassing at this point. Apart from Forza and an occasional Gears, the high-profile releases for MS have been one mediocre game after another. It's been their worst generation by far.

As for those studios, I'm sure Ori will be good, and Gears will be Gears. Neither are going to shift the narrative much, since Ori is indie and Gears is part of the "what else you got besides Halo/Gears/Forza" problem.

Dno69 said:
I feel like this is the last release of the old Microsoft studios.

They have cleaned house as Menace said. Hopefully Xbox Games studios pumps out some hits.
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Yeah. Does cleaned house mean let this development studio go? I suppose we won't hear about that right away. It would be unseemly.

MS doesn't have anything that appeals to me for all of 2019. Maybe by late 2020, they will have something.
 
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Played about an hour. It seems pretty good. I wasn’t a fan of the series and I’m only playing because I have game pass but it seems to me if you like the over the top style of gameplay you’ll probably like it.
 
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After watching that DF video, I'm back on the hype train. YouTubers showed this game in the worst possible light.
It looks like a gorgeous CD remake.
 
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I don't think game pass is a cop out. There's no doubt MS needs to up their development. They know it too, its why the spent so much on studios lately.

I think game pass allows there to be just regular games. Not AAA franchises with huge budget, just games to have fun with. I played the Snake Pass game one weekend evening. I would never buy that game, but I enjoyed it for awhile. It was novel and unique. Totally fun for a couple of days. That is what Crackdown was to fans. It was just fun to try and collect some of the orbs and blow stuff up. Will I play crackdown, definitely. Did I ever expect it to be Red Dead level, heck no. Sometimes I just want to play a simple game that is fun.

I think a lot of it is the market today. Games use to be these fun diversions, now they make up a huge part of people's entertainment. I mean gamers sink serious time into games. Epic stories and online play have radically changed the industry. I mean games like Last of Us, GTA, and Call Of Duty have made games a whole new ballgame. Whereas before people would play and enjoy basic games for what they were. The expectations have changed. That's the biggest Crackdown complaint is that it feels outdated. And honestly it probably is. You can't make that story into a cinematic game or try to make it into some online event. That is not in the game's DNA. It wouldn't work. You can totally download it on game pass and have a fun few weeks with it.
 
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The Wolf King said:
Sadly my Xbox never recovered from the update issues 2 weeks ago so it's got to be sent off. So I'll have to wait to play my copy.
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You and me are in the same boat. Finally got mine back today with no power cord...so I’ll continue to play Bloodbourne one more time. Maybe my most disappointing customer service total experience in the 18 years I’ve been gaming on Xbox. Somehow they’ve significantly downgraded and cheapened their support and I just found out. Wrong place to vent but I feel like venting.
 
VaLLiancE said:


So terrible visuals.
30 fps
Fake 4k
Terrible reviews...

MS needs to clean house!
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They did. This is from the Myerson era when they had no real budget outside of Halo, Gears and Forza. Hard to make AAA games on AA budget.
 
OneBadMutha said:
They did. This is from the Myerson era when they had no real budget outside of Halo, Gears and Forza. Hard to make AAA games on AA budget.
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I've heard that's a bit of a cop-out and that the issue wasn't money but how poorly many of the studios/projects were managed.
 
Been playing the game for about an hour and a half, it has some good bones but it doesn't seem like they paid much attention to the little things. The world just doesn't seem like a living place and it seems a lot less lively than the first game, there just aren't as many people and cars. I also don't like how you jump for a 10 story building and land on the ground with no more impact than jumping from the second step of a staircase to the ground. Visually I love the colors and the lights, I wish they had been able to add some really good rain effects that allowed the light to pass through it, that would look great. The character models and buildings etc are all fairly low grade but they were in the first one too so they could push the draw distance out further. Anyone who says this looks like the old game isn't being fair, it does look better it just doesn't look all that good. I don't know why they switched to adding gadgets vs just upping your strength etc, there was nothing wrong with that system in the first game.
 
After playing for about 2 hours, I've really flipped on this. It looks sharp and colorful with some nice particles and even shaders. Good quality shadows, reflections, and textures.

The visual language is pretty simple, but it works much better than I thought.

Gameplay is nice and tight and there is a lot more variety in enemies and scenarios than the first game. I also like that you gain moves as you level up in addition to strength, agility, etc.

Lots of fun and addicting. Reviewers can go to hell.
 
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JinCA said:
I've heard that's a bit of a cop-out and that the issue wasn't money but how poorly many of the studios/projects were managed.
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That’s part of it too. Ironically it was Obsidian’s devs who shed light on that in one of their interviews before getting purchased. They said a new exec would come in and give completely different direction than the exec before them...until their game was canceled. It’s not that there wasn’t a vision, it just changed weekly. Last year devs on Era said Xbox management was really bad. I’m not hearing that now.

Devs from Undead Labs said they got little to no support until they were purchased. Microsoft wouldn’t share tech or “secrets” that they get now that makes development much easier.

It goes back to Myerson. When you’re trying to make AAA games from AA funding with little to no support while trying to pigeon hole games into movies...then service models...then cloud....there’s no way you’re going to optimize your investments. I get why Microsoft won’t share tech the way Sony does...as some of their stuff is used outside of games. That’s why they need to buy studios and build more in house. They need to be more hands off with the creative portion. They need to be able to scale up teams if the vision gets bigger than the team. They’re doing that now. I don’t hear anything from Lobb anymore...who’s been an incompetent dumbass. Creative decisions now go to the studio heads, not the execs who don’t understand gaming. Microsoft just hired somone from Nintendo with a strong 2nd/3rd party track record. The house has been cleaned outside of Spencer who’s now in control of the vision, gained a bigger budget to work with and does less picking of games. People who want him out because Crackdown is the final straw don’t understand his role.
 
Frozpot said:
After playing for about 2 hours, I've really flipped on this. It looks sharp and colorful with some nice particles and even shaders. Good quality shadows, reflections, and textures.

The visual language is pretty simple, but it works much better than I thought.

Gameplay is nice and tight and there is a lot more variety in enemies and scenarios than the first game. I also like that you gain moves as you level up in addition to strength, agility, etc.

Lots of fun and addicting. Reviewers can go to hell.
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Interesting. We have a lot of similar tastes so that’s a good sign. I think Crackdown is unfortunately bearing the weight of Microsoft as a publisher this gen.
 
OneBadMutha said:
Interesting. We have a lot of similar tastes so that’s a good sign. I think Crackdown is unfortunately bearing the weight of Microsoft as a publisher this gen.
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Nah it's the long dev cycle and the very poor first showing. I like it so far but it's still not a great game, it's fun enough but they could have done some simple things to make it much better. If we are comparing it to only the first game yeah it would score better but so many open world games have come out since then and done so much more to improve the genre and this one feels a bit dated in many ways.
 
OneBadMutha said:
That’s part of it too. Ironically it was Obsidian’s devs who shed light on that in one of their interviews before getting purchased. They said a new exec would come in and give completely different direction than the exec before them...until their game was canceled. It’s not that there wasn’t a vision, it just changed weekly. Last year devs on Era said Xbox management was really bad. I’m not hearing that now.

Devs from Undead Labs said they got little to no support until they were purchased. Microsoft wouldn’t share tech or “secrets” that they get now that makes development much easier.

It goes back to Myerson. When you’re trying to make AAA games from AA funding with little to no support while trying to pigeon hole games into movies...then service models...then cloud....there’s no way you’re going to optimize your investments. I get why Microsoft won’t share tech the way Sony does...as some of their stuff is used outside of games. That’s why they need to buy studios and build more in house. They need to be more hands off with the creative portion. They need to be able to scale up teams if the vision gets bigger than the team. They’re doing that now. I don’t hear anything from Lobb anymore...who’s been an incompetent dumbass. Creative decisions now go to the studio heads, not the execs who don’t understand gaming. Microsoft just hired somone from Nintendo with a strong 2nd/3rd party track record. The house has been cleaned outside of Spencer who’s now in control of the vision, gained a bigger budget to work with and does less picking of games. People who want him out because Crackdown is the final straw don’t understand his role.
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Lobb came from Nintendo so we'll see how this new guy works out :) As far as sharing tech if you have an exclusive deal with a developer and you won't help them make the product you are publishing better that's just poor management IMO. It's not like they have to share secrets for the next version of office lol. Spencer has sort of dug his own grave with some people, he was one of the higher ups through all of Xbox's 1st party struggles so it's not like his hands are totally clean here.
 
Played it on my laptop at work for a bit. Watching that DF video talked about the PC version having stuttering issues and low and behold I had the same on my rather decent laptop. (I 6700HQ, GTX 1060 6gb, 16gb of ram, and a boot drive SSD) other than that it ran at 60fps+ at ultra settings. I will check it out on my One X and desktop PC tomorrow.
 
How can you not like something and say it is a great game at the same time???

I played it for a few hours and I love it. I have no idea WTF these people are smoking! The graphics are great and the art is perfect for this style.

Also, how the world feels alive and you are going around trying to do something while your character grows is awesome.

F*CK these people about talking s*** about crackdown. Like I said hating on MS is the style that comes with MS this gen and it will stick with them until the next console.
 
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Nervusbreakdown said:
How can you not like something and say it is a great game at the same time???

I played it for a few hours and I love it. I have no idea WTF these people are smoking! The graphics are great and the art is perfect for this style.

Also, how the world feels alive and you are going around trying to do something while your character grows is awesome.

F*CK these people about talking s*** about crackdown. Like I said hating on MS is the style that comes with MS this gen and it will stick with them until the next console.
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Who said that?
 
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