Wow. At this rate, we can only hope that Sony doesn't release any exclusives in a given year so we can get unbiased GOTY votes.
Unbiased = ones you agree with.
Wow. At this rate, we can only hope that Sony doesn't release any exclusives in a given year so we can get unbiased GOTY votes.
Nier wont win any awards for graphics but I personally love the art style and the game.BOTW for me
HZD for second
Have yet to play Nioh, Nier, Mario
Horizon isn't my goty but it far better then hellbladeWhy even ask? He hasn't even played Horizon: ZD for longer than 10mins.
Screw Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, Zero Dawn, and any other underserving game.
The Game of the Year for 2017 is either Player Unknown Battlegrounds or Fortnite Battle Royale. The path of the entire industry shifted due the the Battle Royale genre.
Ok, I see a few people have mistakenly hit the funny button instead of the informative button on this post. Let me clear a few things up...
First! The critical side of this industry way way waaaay favors single player games. If your job is to review games, you need something digestible and be able to move on in a week to the next digestable (single player) experience. I mean, Zelda Breath of the Wild is built for someone who has 40 hours. Counter Strike GO? League of Legends? StarCraft? That's a drop in the bucket for those experiences.
Secondly, by most available metrics PUBG, absolutely demolishes Zelda Breath of the Wild in terms of industry impact. It will probably have sold 20 million copies on PC before it even hits the XBox One. Breath of the Wild will be at 5 million copies by that time. Now there's no doubt Zelda will sell well in the months and years ahead, but there's no chance it keeps pace with PUBG. Take all that sales data into consideration when Zelda is Zelda, and PUBG was openly mocked by people when it first launched. It was just another ugly looking, janky, H1Z1 clone. Zelda had every advantage imaginable in terms of commercial success. PUBG grew organically.
Thirdly! What do sales even mean right? There's plenty of garbage out there that sells a lot. That doesn't make it good. Let's talk player involvment. How many people do you even think finished Zelda Breath of the Wild? Let's be wildly optimistic and say half. I don't think it's half but let's just say it is. PUBG now regularly has 2 million plus players playing concurrently at peak times. Concurrently!! People are putting significantly more time into PUBG than BotW.
Fourth! Go take a look at PUBG's reddit page and compare it to Breath of the Wilds reddit page. Not only does PUBG have five plus times the subscribers but look at the active people online. PUBG is in the hearts and minds of the gamers right now. Zelda (comparatively) isn't.
Fifth? I can't prove this one but I know it's true. If we just had the ability to quantify gaming elation, the joy, the peak emotional moments of these games, PUBG would win in a landslide as well. The amount of times PUBG gets people to literally jump out of their seat, to scream, to laugh, to raise one's heart rate, would be more than Zelda. Go watch some Twitch streams and you'll notice the energy of those playing PUBG is about 10 times greater than that of people playing Zelda.
I should wrap this up because I've probably lost most of you by now. Zelda isn't a bad game. I loved Breath of the Wild. I just get a little weary of game of the year discussions that are awarded to single player only games when multiplayer is where the people are.
Player Unknowns Battlegrounds/Fortnite Battle Royale are absolutely Game of the Year type games and IMO should actually be recognized as such.
Ok, I see a few people have mistakenly hit the funny button instead of the informative button on this post. Let me clear a few things up...
First! The critical side of this industry way way waaaay favors single player games. If your job is to review games, you need something digestible and be able to move on in a week to the next digestable (single player) experience. I mean, Zelda Breath of the Wild is built for someone who has 40 hours. Counter Strike GO? League of Legends? StarCraft? That's a drop in the bucket for those experiences.
Secondly, by most available metrics PUBG, absolutely demolishes Zelda Breath of the Wild in terms of industry impact. It will probably have sold 20 million copies on PC before it even hits the XBox One. Breath of the Wild will be at 5 million copies by that time. Now there's no doubt Zelda will sell well in the months and years ahead, but there's no chance it keeps pace with PUBG. Take all that sales data into consideration when Zelda is Zelda, and PUBG was openly mocked by people when it first launched. It was just another ugly looking, janky, H1Z1 clone. Zelda had every advantage imaginable in terms of commercial success. PUBG grew organically.
Thirdly! What do sales even mean right? There's plenty of garbage out there that sells a lot. That doesn't make it good. Let's talk player involvment. How many people do you even think finished Zelda Breath of the Wild? Let's be wildly optimistic and say half. I don't think it's half but let's just say it is. PUBG now regularly has 2 million plus players playing concurrently at peak times. Concurrently!! People are putting significantly more time into PUBG than BotW.
Fourth! Go take a look at PUBG's reddit page and compare it to Breath of the Wilds reddit page. Not only does PUBG have five plus times the subscribers but look at the active people online. PUBG is in the hearts and minds of the gamers right now. Zelda (comparatively) isn't.
Fifth? I can't prove this one but I know it's true. If we just had the ability to quantify gaming elation, the joy, the peak emotional moments of these games, PUBG would win in a landslide as well. The amount of times PUBG gets people to literally jump out of their seat, to scream, to laugh, to raise one's heart rate, would be more than Zelda. Go watch some Twitch streams and you'll notice the energy of those playing PUBG is about 10 times greater than that of people playing Zelda.
I should wrap this up because I've probably lost most of you by now. Zelda isn't a bad game. I loved Breath of the Wild. I just get a little weary of game of the year discussions that are awarded to single player only games when multiplayer is where the people are.
Player Unknowns Battlegrounds/Fortnite Battle Royale are absolutely Game of the Year type games and IMO should actually be recognized as such.
So, after all that, all it = is popularity = GOTY. Which is very lol worthy.
Seeems peoples reply was spot on.
I don't think I played a single 2017 game yet this year.
I think the metrics, the stuff we can measure, should absolutely be considered when choosing a GotY.
I mean, if more people are not only buying, but playing, thinking about, talking about, and showing more emotion with one game over another, that has to matter.
Let's put it this way. Led Zeppelin notoriously recieved horrible reviews from critics back in their heyday. It's funny to go look up what some major publications (Rolling Stone) wrote about them. Back then though it didn't matter because the people understood them. Now no one bats an eye if someone says "Led Zeppelin was one of the greatest rock bands of all time."
Critics aren't blasting PUBG like they did with Zeppelin, but the fact remains that to many, PUBG isn't the type of game that recieves such an award. Those awards go to a specific kind of polished, crafted experience, a single player experience.
In a way the people choose the games of the year. Not critics. Not a handful of people on message boards. I mean, as I'm typing this there's a whole lot of Breath of the Wild's collecting dust and a whole lot of Chicken Dinners trying to be won.
Nah it all comes down to opinion and which game people have liked the most.
Not really a topic that needs an argument really
I think the metrics, the stuff we can measure, should absolutely be considered when choosing a GotY.
I mean, if more people are not only buying, but playing, thinking about, talking about, and showing more emotion with one game over another, that has to matter.
Let's put it this way. Led Zeppelin notoriously recieved horrible reviews from critics back in their heyday. It's funny to go look up what some major publications (Rolling Stone) wrote about them. Back then though it didn't matter because the people understood them. Now no one bats an eye if someone says "Led Zeppelin was one of the greatest rock bands of all time."
Critics aren't blasting PUBG like they did with Zeppelin, but the fact remains that to many, PUBG isn't the type of game that recieves such an award. Those awards go to a specific kind of polished, crafted experience, a single player experience.
In a way the people choose the games of the year. Not critics. Not a handful of people on message boards. I mean, as I'm typing this there's a whole lot of Breath of the Wild's collecting dust and a whole lot of Chicken Dinners trying to be won.
Gtta disagree here. I think it has been one of the worst.You've got a lot to look forward to, then. 2017 was one of the best years in gaming in a long time.
I think the metrics, the stuff we can measure, should absolutely be considered when choosing a GotY.
I mean, if more people are not only buying, but playing, thinking about, talking about, and showing more emotion with one game over another, that has to matter.
Let's put it this way. Led Zeppelin notoriously recieved horrible reviews from critics back in their heyday. It's funny to go look up what some major publications (Rolling Stone) wrote about them. Back then though it didn't matter because the people understood them. Now no one bats an eye if someone says "Led Zeppelin was one of the greatest rock bands of all time."
Critics aren't blasting PUBG like they did with Zeppelin, but the fact remains that to many, PUBG isn't the type of game that recieves such an award. Those awards go to a specific kind of polished, crafted experience, a single player experience.
In a way the people choose the games of the year. Not critics. Not a handful of people on message boards. I mean, as I'm typing this there's a whole lot of Breath of the Wild's collecting dust and a whole lot of Chicken Dinners trying to be won.
I would change the word argument to discussion. Additionally, isn't the whole point of having a 2017 Game of the Year thread for...discussion?
Gtta disagree here. I think it has been one of the worst.
Xbox and PS offerings have been equal for me this year. Nier and Horizon on PS, and Forza 7 and Cuphead on Xbox. I still need to get Halo Wars 2 and Nioh from this year. So Xbox and PS have not been weak for me.Sorry to hear that's been your experience. For me (and most others I've heard), 2017 is one of the best years in gaming in a long time. I mean, we have had two of the highest ranked games of all time issued in one year. Can we say that of any year in the past decade? We've also had a slew of other great games on PS4. Xbox's offerings have been weak, save Cuphead, but there have been a lot of great games this year on other platforms.
He doesn't have a ps4.Sorry to hear that's been your experience. For me (and most others I've heard), 2017 is one of the best years in gaming in a long time. I mean, we have had two of the highest ranked games of all time issued in one year. Can we say that of any year in the past decade? We've also had a slew of other great games on PS4. Xbox's offerings have been weak, save Cuphead, but there have been a lot of great games this year on other platforms.
I think the metrics, the stuff we can measure, should absolutely be considered when choosing a GotY.
I mean, if more people are not only buying, but playing, thinking about, talking about, and showing more emotion with one game over another, that has to matter.
Let's put it this way. Led Zeppelin notoriously recieved horrible reviews from critics back in their heyday. It's funny to go look up what some major publications (Rolling Stone) wrote about them. Back then though it didn't matter because the people understood them. Now no one bats an eye if someone says "Led Zeppelin was one of the greatest rock bands of all time."
Critics aren't blasting PUBG like they did with Zeppelin, but the fact remains that to many, PUBG isn't the type of game that recieves such an award. Those awards go to a specific kind of polished, crafted experience, a single player experience.
In a way the people choose the games of the year. Not critics. Not a handful of people on message boards. I mean, as I'm typing this there's a whole lot of Breath of the Wild's collecting dust and a whole lot of Chicken Dinners trying to be won.
Most people choose GOTY based on what game they, personally, enjoyed the most that year. It's their GOTY pick, because it's their favorite game of the year -- simple as that. You're coming at it from a different angle. I can see the logic -- the game that has the most influence on the industry is the "game of the year," in some sense. That's a more detached perspective than most people use, but I can see the logic.
All of that (except "showing emotion over") is equivalent to saying it wins because it's more popular. I don't think that argument holds much weight.
As for the "showing emotions" part, any highly competitive game like PUBG (or CoD or whatever online MP shoot-fest you want to choose) will naturally bring out more tension, frustration, exultation, etc., than an SP game. It's a competitive, social environment. So naturally people get more worked up. SP games don't work that way. Feelings are more subtle, and internally experienced. It's like the difference between attending a football game vs. reading a book. You're going to see a lot more emotion on the guy attending a football game. I don't think that makes the football game better than the book.
The comparison to Led Zeppelin is broken. PUBG is not gaming's "Stairway to Heaven." PUBG hit on a particular online arrangement or formula that captured a lot of people's attention. Good for them. It will make lots of money and be copied by many developers. Doesn't make it some kind of artistic masterpiece.
Meh. Back to the popularity argument.
Popularity shouldn't be the biggest factor just like Transformers shouldn't win best film awards.
Sorry to hear that's been your experience. For me (and most others I've heard), 2017 is one of the best years in gaming in a long time. I mean, we have had two of the highest ranked games of all time issued in one year. Can we say that of any year in the past decade? We've also had a slew of other great games on PS4. Xbox's offerings have been weak, save Cuphead, but there have been a lot of great games this year on other platforms.