2017 Game Of The Year Is.....

Your Game of the Year??

  • Horizon: Zero Dawn

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • Mario Odyssey

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • Zelda: Breath of the WIld

    Votes: 7 14.9%
  • Divinity 2

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • PUBG

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • RE7

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • HellBlade

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Cuphead

    Votes: 4 8.5%
  • ...I vote for something else

    Votes: 12 25.5%
  • Nier

    Votes: 3 6.4%

  • Total voters
    47
Great post. A few things though.

1. I realize this whole discussion is terribly subjective. Awarding one game as "the best" in a given year is pretty pointless by nature. I just thought if the discussion (not argument lol) were to be had, we might as well start by using metrics rather than subjective opinion. Ridiculous

Yeah, it's all very subjective. I think objective criteria have some place in the discussion, and there's an argument to be made for PUBG on that account. I'm glad you're making it. I certainly won't. :)

2. If a man spends the majority of his free time with a woman. Spends the majority of his expendable income on a woman. Thinks about this woman the most when they're not together. Constantly talks about this woman with his friends and experiences the most intense emotions with this woman, can't we say that there's a chance he likes/loves this woman more than his wife? Whom he says "Yeah but honey, I love you the most and I experience more subtle emotions when I'm with you." Who is that guy fooling? I think there's more to the popularity idea than we'd all like to admit.

I was talking about your idea that comparing webcams of PUBG vs. Zelda is a realistic way to gauge people's enjoyment of the game. They are enjoyed in different ways.

You're also making an assumption that people love PUBG more than they love Zelda. I don't think that's accurate. Again, you're using popularity and sales as your measuring stick. I just don't agree with that.

3. "Artistic masterpiece." You used this phrase above in an attempt to discredit "whatever other online MP shoot fest" I wanted to choose. This particular award is called Game of the Year. Key emphasis on the word game. Now that's a pretty vague term but I don't think you should define it as something like an artistic masterpiece. Games are not the Mona Lisa. They are not Bethoven's Moonlight Sonata. They are not the sculpture of David. They are not Steinbecks Grapes of Wrath. Games are games. If the best games aped something like those artistic masterpieces, then I think you'd be right. You'd have to give this award to something that told a very specific story like Hellblade or Zero Dawn. However, this is the game of the year award, not artistic masterpiece of the year award.

Well, take out the word "artistic," then, if it's a stumbling block. "Masterpiece" will do just as well. I can see calling Zelda or Mario masterpieces. I can't see calling PUBG a masterpiece. I would call it extremely popular and influential. If there was a "Most Influential Game of the Year" award, I'd vote for PUBG. No doubt we'll be seeing PUBG clones for years to come. yay?

4. Couldn't one argue that all things, like Zeppelin "hit on a particular arrangement or formula that made lots of money, captured peoples attention, and was copied for years to come?"

No, one could not argue that. :)

Either way, I commend your post. I'm not 100% positive of my own beliefs on this matter which is why I enjoy having these discussions (not arguments).

Cheers.
 
I haven’t played either BOTW or PUBG yet however GOTY has to go to one of those based on objective information. Both seem to have redefined the genres they were in. Both will have significant impact on future games from other developers. Both kept the attention of gamers well beyond their release week. Both gained steam after release. BOTW set records for console atttach rate and revitalized Nintendo from a long slump while PUBG set records on Steam with minimal marketing. Multiple people inside the industry have admitted that they couldn’t get either one of those games out of their mind.

Horizon:ZD is the best looking and most polished open world game ever but I think it’s overrated. It’s a solid A in production values and graphics. B in gameplay. C in story and character development. Story had potential but the flat characters and acting hurt its impact. I thought the gameplay was solid but didn’t find the sandbox revoltionary or to have a super addicting hook.
 
I haven’t played either BOTW or PUBG yet however GOTY has to go to one of those based on objective information. Both seem to have redefined the genres they were in. Both will have significant impact on future games from other developers. Both kept the attention of gamers well beyond their release week. Both gained steam after release. BOTW set records for console atttach rate and revitalized Nintendo from a long slump while PUBG set records on Steam with minimal marketing. Multiple people inside the industry have admitted that they couldn’t get either one of those games out of their mind.

Horizon:ZD is the best looking and most polished open world game ever but I think it’s overrated. It’s a solid A in production values and graphics. B in gameplay. C in story and character development. Story had potential but the flat characters and acting hurt its impact. I thought the gameplay was solid but didn’t find the sandbox revoltionary or to have a super addicting hook.

The popularity angle is a tricky one because what if Fortnite ends up being the most popular game of the year thanks to it being free is that now the GOTY? I don't think anyone needs to come up with objective criteria because it should be about being the best game and that should be subjective. I do think that online games don't get enough love when it comes to GOTY.

The acting complaint is a surprising one. Can't really think of anyone that does a poor job. Certainly not Aloy.
 
The popularity angle is a tricky one because what if Fortnite ends up being the most popular game of the year thanks to it being free is that now the GOTY? I don't think anyone needs to come up with objective criteria because it should be about being the best game and that should be subjective. I do think that online games don't get enough love when it comes to GOTY.

The acting complaint is a surprising one. Can't really think of anyone that does a poor job. Certainly not Aloy.
Not sure I ever got your friend requests :(
 
If we change the question to which will win the most GOTY awards, I think it's pretty clear it'll be Mario and Zelda at #1 and #2. I'm hoping that Horizon will garner a couple of awards, but it just doesn't stack up against 2 of the top 5 games of all time. Despite some really outstanding games on PS4, 2017 really has been Nintendo's year.
 
If we change the question to which will win the most GOTY awards, I think it's pretty clear it'll be Mario and Zelda at #1 and #2. I'm hoping that Horizon will garner a couple of awards, but it just doesn't stack up against two of the top 5 games of all time. Despite some really outstanding games on PS4, 2017 really has been Nintendo's year.

This year was Nintendo's whilst next year will be Sony's. I don't think Nintendo have anything bigger than Zelda or Mario bar Pokemon and I doubt that will be a higher quality game than both.
 
This year was Nintendo's whilst next year will be Sony's. I don't think Nintendo have anything bigger than Zelda or Mario bar Pokemon and I doubt that will be a higher quality game than both.

Agree, 2018 is looking great for Sony.
 
The popularity angle is a tricky one because what if Fortnite ends up being the most popular game of the year thanks to it being free is that now the GOTY? I don't think anyone needs to come up with objective criteria because it should be about being the best game and that should be subjective. I do think that online games don't get enough love when it comes to GOTY.

The acting complaint is a surprising one. Can't really think of anyone that does a poor job. Certainly not Aloy.

All of it is tricky because GOTY is completely subjective and everyone who votes tends to use different standards. I try to project which games will resonate most long term. Which will have the most influence on others developers and the industry as a whole. For example, in retrospect I would have put Demon Souls way up there even though I thought nothing of that game at the time. As much as COD annoys me, the original Modern Warfare stood the test of time. Same with the original Gears. Those games influenced the industry.

If Fortnight sells 30 million copies, it’ll never register that way because it’s success has been a result of a blatant copycat feature. My guess is that shooters will be implementing their own PUBG features for a long time. Developers will be trying to sell how you can jump and climb up everything like Zelda BOTW for a long time.

Once other open world games get as pretty and polished as Horizon, I don’t think it’ll stand out.
 
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I’ve been playing a lot of previous years games trying to catch up. Hard for me to pick a GOTY since I haven’t played many new games this year.
 
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So I've been really thinking about this question more than I should today and have come up with a few conclusions.

I like to answer this completely subjective question in the most objective way possible. In 2015, when The Witcher 3 was grabbing everyone's praise I succumbed, picked it up and bounced off of it twice. Just not my type of game yet totally accepted it as game of the year that year. It wasn't my game of the year but it was 2015's game of the year.

So I think for me, game of the year revolves around one thing and one thing only. Which game most captured that years attention. If that's my criteria, I don't think any game comes close to PUBG. As good as Mario and Zelda were, 2017 was PUBG's.
 
So I've been really thinking about this question more than I should today and have come up with a few conclusions.

I like to answer this completely subjective question in the most objective way possible. In 2015, when The Witcher 3 was grabbing everyone's praise I succumbed, picked it up and bounced off of it twice. Just not my type of game yet totally accepted it as game of the year that year. It wasn't my game of the year but it was 2015's game of the year.

So I think for me, game of the year revolves around one thing and one thing only. Which game most captured that years attention. If that's my criteria, I don't think any game comes close to PUBG. As good as Mario and Zelda were, 2017 was PUBG's.

TW3 is much more comparable to Zelda as they are both considered to be the best or one of the best quality games but nowhere near the best selling or most popular.
 
Which game most captured that years attention. If that's my criteria, I don't think any game comes close to PUBG. As good as Mario and Zelda were, 2017 was PUBG's.

I agree that by that criteria (got the most public attention), PUBG wins. I don't really like that criterion, though. It doesn't represent quality, just audience size.

What game will be remembered 10 years from now? That's a better criterion. Mario and Zelda will be remembered as 2 of the top 5 games of all time. By comparison, PUBG will be a historical footnote.
 
TW3 is much more comparable to Zelda as they are both considered to be the best or one of the best quality games but nowhere near the best selling or most popular.

Yeah but there was just a buzz that the Witcher 3 brought that year that no other game had.
 
I agree that by that criteria (got the most public attention), PUBG wins. I don't really like that criterion, though. It doesn't represent quality, just audience size.

What game will be remembered 10 years from now? That's a better criterion. Mario and Zelda will be remembered as 2 of the top 5 games of all time. By comparison, PUBG will be a historical footnote.

Nay nay nay.

I could not disagree more with what you said here. People/gamers will remember which games they put the time into with. There's 5 million Breath of the Wild fans that put an average of 22.5 hours into that Zelda. You do realize of the 20 million PUBG players (and there will be more, much more) a massive percentage of them put more than 100 hours into the game. Not only has PUBG reached a significantly bigger audience, but it's also a far stickier game than Zelda.

And I'm sorry for repeating myself but PUBG had no marketing budget, looks like crud, launched in an atmosphere of "Oh boy here comes another H1Z1 clone, lol" and exploded for one reason and one reason only. It's a brilliant game. In my opinion growing organically like that is the single greatest indicator of quality a game could have.

Lastly, PUBG will absolutely be remembered 20 years from now because, not only is everyone playing it and loving it, but it will also be recognized as a paradigm shifting moment in multiplayer game design. The entire industry is studying the battle royale phenomenon.

Remember, this is called "Game of the Year 2017". Don't overthink it. PUBG owned this year.