DirectX 12 Coming to Xbox One

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Microsoft IS BEING CLEAR mate! They wont fully disclose ALL of the information about DX12 at this time (and really, who can blame them....) But what they have told us is significant.

oh i know.. but the only thing that has NOT been said is, will the full range of DX12 features make it over to the X1. I am already on the bandwagon of waiting to see what can be done, and I do EXPECT big things, just have to wait and see.

didn't see the tweets :)

So I guess the whole package is coming over ;)
 
Yeah, let's try this again.....for those choosing to ignore it...

Phil Spencer ‏@XboxP3 Mar 20
@Nicodemus9 DX12 will have impact on XBOX One games written for DX12. Some DX12 features are already in XBOX One but full DX12 coming.

Phil Spencer ‏@XboxP3 Mar 20
@Nicodemus9 DX12 will have impact on XBOX One games written for DX12. Some DX12 features are already in XBOX One but full DX12 coming.

Phil Spencer ‏@XboxP3 Mar 20
@Nicodemus9 DX12 will have impact on XBOX One games written for DX12. Some DX12 features are already in XBOX One but full DX12 coming.

Phil Spencer ‏@XboxP3 Mar 20
@Nicodemus9 DX12 will have impact on XBOX One games written for DX12. Some DX12 features are already in XBOX One but full DX12 coming.

i don't follow him on twitter.. so good news there :)
 
oh i know.. but the only thing that has NOT been said is, will the full range of DX12 features make it over to the X1. I am already on the bandwagon of waiting to see what can be done, and I do EXPECT big things, just have to wait and see.
Phil Spencer just said it will. Am I missing something here?
 
Here's what you stated in one of your posts:









Reading all of this, what EXACTLY do you expect us to think? You apparently believe most of the features and benefits of DX12 are for tablets and PC's, completely negating the fact that Microsoft said, "THE XBOX ONE WILL SEE A SIGNIFICANT BOOST IN PERFORMANCE FROM DX12". Then you insinuate that because the XBO has a low level API, it wont utilize DX12 to a great degree.

Whats just ill, is how you COMPLETELY ignore that the XBO will see a significant boost, AS WELL AS PC's and tablets. You cant just take out the stuff you dont agree with to try and prove a point! WTF?!o_O

Nothing you quoted shows me saying that Xbox one is not compatible with DX12. Nothing you quoted shows me saying there won't be a performance increase. In fact what you quoted shows me clearly saying the opposite, that DX12 on Xbox one will show a performance improvement. Those words are actually in that text. Maybe you have trouble reading.
 
I said it pretty clear that it will make X1 much better, but I don't think the percentage of change will be that much different from PS4 and X1 because PS4 will also see a increase in through put. I don't see how that is illogical though.

And we aren't talking down to him like he is doing to us. So, I just don't get it.

It's like it just makes him feel bad , our actual opinion he disagrees with so much.. he would rather try to act like we are crazy/stupid than to actually talk to us about it like a person. Why does it have to be this way?
Who's talking down to you Jackie or anyone else for the matter?! Im simply putting out there what we know thus far. You're not being talked down to. I just dont agree with the arm chair quarter backing thats taking place from those who have no idea (or simply refuse to comprehend) what has been stated officially. I dont feel bad for telling the truth! :laugh:

Does that even MAKE SENSE to you?:laugh:
 
oh i know.. but the only thing that has NOT been said is, will the full range of DX12 features make it over to the X1. I am already on the bandwagon of waiting to see what can be done, and I do EXPECT big things, just have to wait and see.

didn't see the tweets :)

So I guess the whole package is coming over ;)
Yessir! Whats different now is that Microsoft has finally wised up and kept alot of what their doing under wraps while telling us that "more is coming". This just so happens to be a double edged sword as well. Because not fully disclosing information allows the arm chair devs to speculate and create nonsense and FUD ad they cant afford to be completely transparent. MS also has to be mindful of Sony as well, so not to lay all of their cards on the table....

Not to mention what happened with Albert and the engineers. Once gamers began calling them liars and full of BS and bashing (those same people who would know more than any gamer on any forum) revealing too much had to take a back seat. f*** all! Just look at all the flack their catching for the Cloud, even though there are actual games that take advantage of the technology. Something had to give....
 
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Who's talking down to you Jackie or anyone else for the matter?! Im simply putting out there what we know thus far. You're not being talked down to. I just dont agree with the arm chair quarter backing thats taking place from those who have no idea (or simply refuse to comprehend) what has been stated officially. I dont feel bad for telling the truth! :laugh:

Does that even MAKE SENSE to you?:laugh:

Maybe you forgot you just posted this:

"By time Yoyo, KB, Jackie and Ketto finish with the information we have from GDC, DX 12 will be no more than stolen documents from Area 51 that can be read in the tabloids. We could show an actual photo of Bigfoot, ET and JFK at a family picnic right now, and those three would believe that over the XBO being directly compatible with DX 12."
 
Warned for insults.
Nothing you quoted shows me saying that Xbox one is not compatible with DX12. Nothing you quoted shows me saying there won't be a performance increase. In fact what you quoted shows me clearly saying the opposite, that DX12 on Xbox one will show a performance improvement. Those words are actually in that text. Maybe you have trouble reading.
Maybe you're too blinded by your ever increasing ego as an armchair quarterback to read between the lines? o_O
 
Your avatar is funny. I see Jackie doing that soon!

i think at some point, yes.. the FUD being put out about DX12 is amazing. Saw one article where the person who wrote it obviously couldn't read, because he wrote that IN FACT games for DX12 won't even hit shelves until 2016, and AAA tiles until 2017 and that we would have to ride our 900p trains until then. Completely ignoring that they are updating the current SDK and other software enhancements to free up hardware resources.

It is the blinding hate that some have towards this announcement that is staggering.
 
Maybe you forgot you just posted this:

"By time Yoyo, KB, Jackie and Ketto finish with the information we have from GDC, DX 12 will be no more than stolen documents from Area 51 that can be read in the tabloids. We could show an actual photo of Bigfoot, ET and JFK at a family picnic right now, and those three would believe that over the XBO being directly compatible with DX 12."
That was joke of all things. Gimme a break!

Key words: AREA 51. TABLOIDS. BIGFOOT. JFK. ET at a family picnic? Maybe your sarcasm meter is broken. /Shrug
 
Maybe you're too blinded by your ever increasing ego as an armchair quarterback to read between the lines? o_O

The hilarious thing is I agree with you (xbox one is compatible with XB1 and we will see performance improvements) and you still act this way and have your pants in a tizzy.
 
The hilarious thing is I agree with you (xbox one is compatible with XB1 and we will see performance improvements) and you still act this way and have your pants in a tizzy.
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Seriously. If you actually agree, then why try and downplay the news? Its like someone stated earlier, why not just say, "this is great news for Xbox", and be done with it? Thats all most of us are saying anyway....
 
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Seriously. If you actually agree, then why try and downplay the news? Its like someone stated earlier, why not just say, "this is great news for Xbox", and be done with it? Thats all most of us are saying anyway....

When some people in this thread are saying that this is a huge game changer and will bring parity to the PS4 (in fact there is a post on the last page saying this will make Xbox one multiplatforms perform BETTER than the PS4!), we should be allowed to disagree. Heck, we should be allowed to disagree on the merits alone that MS never claimed any of that. And we should be allowed to disagree without being accused of "downplaying" or "hating good MS news" or "not believing MS" or in your case being personally attacked as having a big ego AND all of the above.
 
When some people in this thread are saying that this is a huge game changer and will bring parity to the PS4 (in fact there is a post on the last page saying this will make Xbox one multiplatforms perform BETTER than the PS4!), we should be allowed to disagree. Heck, we should be allowed to disagree on the merits alone that MS never claimed any of that. And we should be allowed to disagree without being accused of "downplaying" or "hating good MS news" or "not believing MS" or in your case being personally attacked as having a big ego and all of the above.

Seems you are all misinformed.

The new SDK brings parity-in regards to resolutiongate. DX12 is just extra topping :D:D
 
When some people in this thread are saying that this is a huge game changer and will bring parity to the PS4 (in fact there is a post on the last page saying this will make Xbox one multiplatforms perform BETTER than the PS4!), we should be allowed to disagree. Heck, we should be allowed to disagree on the merits alone that MS never claimed any of that. And we should be allowed to disagree without being accused of "downplaying" or "hating good MS news" or "not believing MS" or in your case being personally attacked as having a big ego AND all of the above.
"Personally Attacked?" Thats a little over the falls but, whateves....o_O
 
When some people in this thread are saying that this is a huge game changer and will bring parity to the PS4 (in fact there is a post on the last page saying this will make Xbox one multiplatforms perform BETTER than the PS4!), we should be allowed to disagree. Heck, we should be allowed to disagree on the merits alone that MS never claimed any of that. And we should be allowed to disagree without being accused of "downplaying" or "hating good MS news" or "not believing MS" or in your case being personally attacked as having a big ego AND all of the above.

unless you were referring to my post where I said "MAYBE 3rd party" games would be better, then I don't see any post on the last page about being BETTER. I said maybe, and that is an accurate conjecture to make since we don't know how this will affect X1 games with this and the new SDK hitting the pipeline.


Seems you are all misinformed.

The new SDK brings parity-in regards to resolutiongate. DX12 is just extra topping :D:D

Truth.. the new SDK is supposed to resolve the resolution issues, mostly (still will be programming issues getting the system to work as intended), and DX12 is just another improvement to be seen later.
 
Really, at this point, not a whole lot is known about DX12 and it's benefits for the X1, especially considering it was just "teased" at GDC. It's speculation and/or general misinformation from both sides of the discussion regarding what this will mean for the X1. My opinion is that very few of you know enough about it to be acting like you know what it'll mean and condescending to others who "don't" know or are "ignorant" enough to believe it will make a huge difference.

For now, I'll listen to the people who do it for a living and know what they are talking about. The general consensus from them is that DX12 is a significant advancement and will make an impact. That's the first thing known, and the second is that MS felt it was relevant enough to mention the X1 amongst the info and announcement of DX12. That should mean something right there. What it means, we'll have to wait and see.
 
Really, at this point, not a whole lot is known about DX12 and it's benefits for the X1, especially considering it was just "teased" at GDC. It's speculation and/or general misinformation from both sides of the discussion regarding what this will mean for the X1. My opinion is that very few of you know enough about it to be acting like you know what it'll mean and condescending to others who "don't" know or are "ignorant" enough to believe it will make a huge difference.

For now, I'll listen to the people who do it for a living and know what they are talking about. The general consensus from them is that DX12 is a significant advancement and will make an impact. That's the first thing known, and the second is that MS felt it was relevant enough to mention the X1 amongst the info and announcement of DX12. That should mean something right there. What it means, we'll have to wait and see.


Bingo... it is a significant advancement, their own words. How much so, we will see in the coming months and full on at the end of 2015 I guess ;)
 
No, the Xbox One does not have a secret second GPU
Microsoft director of product planning Albert Penello has spoken out to dispel an enduring rumor about the Xbox One. It's been suggested that the Xbox One features a second secret graphics processing unit (GPU) hidden somewhere in the system, but this is not true, Penello says.

"I thought I had already said something about that. There is no 2nd GPU, there is no stacked GPU," Penello said on Twitter. Later writing on Reddit, Penello noted that Microsoft's recent Direct X12 announcement might have made the rumor re-appear.

"I didn't think [the second GPU rumor] was festering because I thought I'd already commented on it. For some reason the DX12 announce seemed to make it resurface," he said.

Regarding DX12 specifically, Penello said he's not that completely caught up on the new graphics API just yet, and so he's not sure how it will directly impact Xbox One. Still, he said players can expect advancements to performance over time on Xbox One.

"I know we're continually improving our tools for developers, as we did with Xbox 360, so you'll see consistent performance improvements over time," he said.

Last week, Microsoft said gamers can expect more Xbox One titles to run in 1080p over time as studios discover and improve upon development techniques.
 
When some people in this thread are saying that this is a huge game changer and will bring parity to the PS4 (in fact there is a post on the last page saying this will make Xbox one multiplatforms perform BETTER than the PS4!), we should be allowed to disagree. Heck, we should be allowed to disagree on the merits alone that MS never claimed any of that. And we should be allowed to disagree without being accused of "downplaying" or "hating good MS news" or "not believing MS" or in your case being personally attacked as having a big ego AND all of the above.

I have no issue with you Yoyoniner. Or anyone bringing a realistic slant on the news. But there were people in here claiming that DX12 would not be coming to X1. That only certain features would. Because the hardware has to be compliant. But I guess they didn't realize that Microsoft designed the hardware a certain way for a reason.
 
I think it's safe to say that DirectX 12 is going to be a game changer for the Xbox One. It doesn't matter if it takes until 2016 to see it. Some of these games are going to be mind blowing.
 
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Why is this thread in this section when it should be in the multiplatforms? I see more information in here about the PC more so than the X1. Now we have a video in this page that is running on the PC using a Titan GPU.

Anderson
 
Why is this thread in this section when it should be in the multiplatforms? I see more information in here about the PC more so than the X1. Now we have a video in this page that is running on the PC using a Titan GPU.

Anderson

Because the GDC announcement was related to, and indirectly about the X1. Whatever is going to the PC is also coming to X1, so it is relevant and specific to the console.
 
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