do you feel bad about eating meat?

Joon

Joon

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i've been exposed to some greusome animal killing videos recently and it's kind of put me of eating meat. i've ate meat all my life, and a nice plate of well cooked meat is still tempting to my taste buds, but latel my head has been blocking that feeling. seeing those badly treated animals is just off putting, and knowing i can get by fine without meat makes it seem like the reasonable choice.

how do you feel about it?
 
Nope. but it appears it is not the eating meat that makes you feel this way, but rather the inhumane choices of their demise.
 
I'm more concerned about how we get the meat sometimes, and I don't like seeing any animal get killed in a painful manner. Overall though, I'd have to say no. Although, I do find people who care about the animals to be somewhat admirable. They usually get dumped on or accused of caring more about a cow than a human as if both would be hanging of a cliff and only the bovine would survive. I think if you decide to stop eating meat, it should be more for your health than anybody elses.
 
i would love to go vegan again but its so damn hard. I did it for two years mainly bc of the reason(s) you described. But alas i cook most of the meals for the family and my kids are really young and I don't want their diets to be deficient etc. and they love those sausages etc.
I do try to go organic with all my food though. grow my own veggies in the summer and buy local yada yada.
maybe when the kids are older I may convince my wife too then...
 
Gwyn / Razor said:
No. And I've seen some of those videos. Come on man!
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have you seen the one where a pregnant cow is opened up and the baby removed, then both are killed slowly by stabbing ? or where a frog is sliced, its skin removed and organs laid out on a plate and eaten (i read comments that the frog was dead at this point, but it's eyes were still moving, and it was kinda disgusting anyway)? *shutter*

menace-uk- said:
Nope. but it appears it is not the eating meat that makes you feel this way, but rather the inhumane choices of their demise.
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i'm not sure if there is a humane choice of demise

rankandfile said:
i would love to go vegan again but its so damn hard. I did it for two years mainly bc of the reason(s) you described. But alas i cook most of the meals for the family and my kids are really young and I don't want their diets to be deficient etc. and they love those sausages etc.
I do try to go organic with all my food though. grow my own veggies in the summer and buy local yada yada.
maybe when the kids are older I may convince my wife too then...
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some vegans say it's the most healthy diet, including for kids. there's so much confolicting info on it thats its just such a pain the properly know

do you mean being vegan is hard because of the family reasons you described, or was it something else, like being difficult to go off meat?
 
Joon said:
i'm not sure if there is a humane choice of demise
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Of course there is Quick and painless. It is the humane way for any animal, including ourselves. Like it or not Animals are a food source. They have been part of Man's diet since the dawn of our species. The fact ( or so it seems) remains though; your opinion on or feeling of eating meat was changed by the inhumane acts of others and not about the meat itself. If you never saw those videos would this topic ever have been created ? seems doubtful.
 
menace-uk- said:
Of course there is Quick and painless. It is the humane way for any animal, including ourselves.
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sure. but i meant by way of it being unnessescary. i wouldnt describe killing a human quick and plainlessly as "humane" either, for example

menace-uk- said:
They have been part of Man's diet since the dawn of our species. The fact ( or so it seems) remains though; your opinion on or feeling of eating meat was changed by the inhumane acts of others and not about the meat itself. If you never saw those videos would this topic ever have been created ? seems doubtful.
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i dont see the separation between the inhumane acts and the meat itself. these videos being particuarly brutal just made it more real to me and led me to these conclusions/questions
 
Not at all
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People kill people, animals kill/eat animals, people kill/eat animals, etc.

It's part of life therefor I can't quit. Maybe watching some of those videos where they are killing animals for meat selling purposes would make me feel bad but I'll forget about it by the time I'm holding the next burger.
 
Add a little hot sauce and all your worries will go away.
 
Switch to spam I'm pretty sure it is cruel to only your internals....
 
I don't watch any gruesome videos so I'm not really bothered by eating meat.
I did see some sheep at the weekend and thought it would be a shame to kill and eat them, but I mostly eat chicken and beef anyway so went to McDonalds instead.
 
Let me put it like this:

I'm pretty sure that if I had to provide my own meat as in catch, slaughter, skin and dissect the animal I'm not sure I could stomach meat.

But that's also probably because I wasn't raised with that exposure to become desensitized to it so when I eat meat that part of the process is out of mind.

Another thing though. I was in a relationship with a vegetarian for 7 years and it meant making sacrifices when we'd go out to eat. A lot of places don't have anything good for vegetarians so when we'd go to a non-vegetarian place it'd be pretty frustrating listening to her whine about the s***ty food. Then we ended up just going to dedicated vegetarian/vegan places where then I had to suffer. Even though the food was good and sometimes it was great, I still had to basically give up going to restaurants that I would want to try after reading a review.

I hope my next partner is an omnivore tbh.
 
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Tequila Shot said:
People kill people, animals kill/eat animals, people kill/eat animals, etc.

It's part of life therefor I can't quit.
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you can quit. you just choose not to.

no need to create false justifications for your actions.
 
Joon said:
have you seen the one where a pregnant cow is opened up and the baby removed, then both are killed slowly by stabbing ? or where a frog is sliced, its skin removed and organs laid out on a plate and eaten (i read comments that the frog was dead at this point, but it's eyes were still moving, and it was kinda disgusting anyway)? *shutter*



i'm not sure if there is a humane choice of demise



some vegans say it's the most healthy diet, including for kids. there's so much confolicting info on it thats its just such a pain the properly know

do you mean being vegan is hard because of the family reasons you described, or was it something else, like being difficult to go off meat?
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i know it would be good for the kids but its hard when there are no healthy alternatives here out in the rural area that I live and whole foods sucks $ and I'm adverse to them since they bowed down to Monsanto.
I mean its hard because to be truly vegan you cant have any dairy etc. and its means having to prepare differently.
I cant live without eggs and cheese for some reason. I did for two years and really didn't miss it after 6 months but it became difficult to o out to eat, have people over etc..
 
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Zer0beaT said:
Let me put it like this:

I'm pretty sure that if I had to provide my own meat as in catch, slaughter, skin and dissect the animal I'm not sure I could stomach meat.

But that's also probably because I wasn't raised with that exposure to become desensitized to it so when I eat meat that part of the process is out of mind.
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thats a really good point. i used that as an argument to myself to not eat meat: "i wouldnt kill it myself, so why am i okay with someone else doing it for me?". but i agree that that really just depends on what enivornment you have been accustomed to.

my line of reasoning at this point is basically: i do not need to eat meat, i prefer animals not to die or suffer, making and eating meat is a process of animals dying and suffering, so why eat meat?
 
Joon said:
you can quit. you just choose not to.

no need to create false justifications for your actions.
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No need for justifications

This is an example of why veggies and vegans have a bad stereotype. Good for you that you don't meat, that is your choice. Not all veggies are flaming douches though, but a lot of them are attention whores. Everyone in the room has to know about their choices.
 
No. I love steak and pork to much to even consider it. I buy locally sourced from our butcher so I'm not buying anything from a factory farm. Every animal thats slaughtered has the name of the farmer and the name of the farm. I like vegetarian food too but meat is where it's at.
 
CasualGamer said:
No need for justifications

This is an example of why veggies and vegans have a bad stereotype. Good for you that you don't meat, that is your choice. Not all veggies are flaming douches though, but a lot of them are attention whores. Everyone in the room has to know about their choices.
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me pointing out a logically invalid argument is re-enforcing a bad stereotype? how does that work?

that poster claimed they "have to" eat meat. they don't. that is a false justification and i'm going to call them out on their poor logical argument. if they just said "i prefer eating meat to not killing animals", then that is a logical position to hold and i wouldnt have said anything.
 
Joon said:
you can quit. you just choose not to.

no need to create false justifications for your actions.
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Well technically I could but I'm so addicted to eating meat that I can't see myself living the rest of my life not ever having it... Kah-peesh?
 
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