And yet you used a downloadable golf game as an example later on on the same page.
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And yet you used a downloadable golf game as an example later on on the same page.
I don't think strider is a good example simply because it's not a game that really pushes either console. Double Helix made the game and they also worked on KI for Xbox One so it could easily just be a case of being more familiar with the hardware. Nobody can take away the fact that strider is missing a technical feature on PS4 that is in the X1 version but I also doubt anyone believes that feature couldn't have been applied had the dev really wanted to put it in.
Golf club is a better example of a face off than Strider. And yes they both count, I never said they didn't.
Jinca hit the nail on the head. Point isn't the downloadable aspect so much as its a platform game that I hope we can all agree isn't stressing either console. Do you think either console has trouble running Strider?
Golf Club for what its worth is a 3d procedurally generated user editable $40 game that is downloadable, yes, but quite a bit larger and much more demanding of the hardware. The fact both consoles struggle to run it well as a PC shows that it is a much better example of a face off, wouldn't you agree.
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Spoken like a true class act as usual plain view. The owner of this site gentlemen. LOL.
I never said it didn't count so you can lose your straw man. The fact you are arguing with Jinca over a pasta padre screenshot comparison that is provably false and has never been corroborated by anyone shows everything we need to know. Have some integrity.
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As a non-American my biggest issue with American football is 10 minute breaks after every play. It just gets so tiresome. I know Soccer has its stoppages, but unless it is real bad injury they last for seconds.
While the breaks are generally less than a minute I totally get what you are saying. It never really bothered me until I started watching Rugby and while there are also issues in that sport when it comes to scrums/line outs it still always feels like it flows much better.
LOL ok whatever. You can certainly pick and choose your facts as long as they prove your beliefs. Just keep using games that aren't even great looking to judge console performance. You know too that EA spends every dollar they have making sure that their games are optimized on every platform. They'd never, ever just leave a bug there on one system and ignore it. Like how they "forgot" to program the defensive AI to play defense.
The defensive AI is terrible in this game. Worse than Fifa 14. If you use tactical defending, your players will sprint past the ball carrier and get out of position. If you don't use it, your players will stand there and admire the goal scored. The only way to defend is to rapidly switch players and hope that they are at least standing in a spot that isn't useless.
Nothing wrong with my post. It's quite simple, he doesn't like your posts, no reason to respond and he should just ignore you. But continue you're attempt to get a reaction out of "the owner of this site" like you try to do with every one of your posts. And I wasn't arguing with Jin. I was pointing out a fact. But continue your crusade.
If you believe that's the case, could be a bug or could be that developer is more familiar with the hardware, couldn't the same apply to this difference that was pointed out in the OP no matter how trivial the difference and the discussion should stop there?
Do you? I'm an American and I would never claim to be an expert in the sport, but when I can see major AI issues after 2 games.... something is wrong. I've never gotten any coaching on the game, but if I was playing center back I wouldn't let the faster striker get behind me. I should have recorded the goal I conceded. The guy had 10 yards of space on his breakaway.
Nobody is disputing the on paper hardware gap of <30+%. We can't dispute facts that our PS4 is more powerful. But we aren't talking about the hardware gap, we are talking about the gap in software, which continues to diminish in games more frequently. With the consoles so close in power, we expect that will continue to be the case.
And the software gap is reduced or eliminated in new and upcoming games by various developers as well. Not sure what your point is?
I am happy for all of us that developers are able to better utilize the tools in the Xbox One to supply us with more and more games without the gap. I am also happy that Sony is helping developers as well for our PS4. It's a win win.
I'm sorry but it really is funny seeing people call DF PS fanboys, biased now that The Sony machine wins most face offs yet last gen when the 360 was winning most of them those same people had no problem with them.
The people who thought DF where xbox fanboys last gen now think they are fine and just being honest. The circle of life.
The people who thought DF where xbox fanboys last gen now think they are fine and just being honest. The circle of life.
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No. I wouldn't agree. Golf Club looks like an original Xbox game. I seriously doubt it would be stressing either hardware in the hands of more established developers
No Plainview. Missing motion blur (that was in the demo) and frame dips during cut scenes is obviously hardware related and not a bug.
You Sony warriors all sound the same. Are every one of you listening to the same broken record? f*** sakes! From 40% more pixels etc, you guys continue to push the same crap over and over without ever realizing you come off as vengeful or having an agenda.
Sounds like one of those ugly bitches in high school that finally got braces, but ignores the fact she only has three teeth, yet, "greatness awaits" in six months to year.
Sounds like one of those ugly bitches in high school that finally got braces, but ignores the fact she only has three teeth, yet, "greatness awaits" in six months to year.
I guess play Golf Club and design your own course and you'll see? Everything is 3d, in motion and procedurally generated. I don't know what else to say. There is no way the 360 let alone the OG Xbox could run the game.
I don't have an issue with DF. Their analysis is useful and I don't think it's motivated in bias at all.
But MC is right in a way. Some of you sound slightly vengeful. And others sound defensive.
But MC is right in a way. Some of you sound slightly vengeful. And others sound defensive.
He sounds the same way just from the opposite side.lol
The hypocrisy from both sides is hilarious.
Heh, another attempt at downplaying. If someone did this in response to a PS4 game looking better you guys would be the first to criticize. Are there reasons why the Xbox One version of the game looks better? Yep. Just like there are (more obvious) reasons why PS4 versions of other games look better. There's a difference in actually wanting to explain the differences though and trying to downplay and it's obvious to you (and others) are doing the latter.
Again, why does it matter? Why are you downplaying Strider so much? Scratch that, I know the reason why you are doing it (it's obvious) but the hypocrisy is so blatant that it's hilarious.
And FYI, none of the current games out right now really push the new consoles that much -- the consoles are less than a year old and many games are still cross gen up ports. Devs aren't fully familiar with the hardware and/or they don't know a lot of "tricks" yet (since again, the consoles are new). There was a pretty popular opinion in some parts that games would be lower in resolution as the gen goes on due to the games adding more features as these consoles get older, but that probably won't be true. It's usually not the case. Heck, you can even look back to last gen. Halo 3 was 640p (iirc) but Halo 4 was 720p.
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So what are we arguing about again? I lost track.
The only face-off I remember the Xbox One winning is the Strider game where the PS4 version had a strange texture filtering issue that made the IQ look a bit worse on the PS4.
Otherwise, IIRC all other face-offs were in the favour of PS4. That should tell us something, right?
The only face-off I remember the Xbox One winning is the Strider game where the PS4 version had a strange texture filtering issue that made the IQ look a bit worse on the PS4.
Otherwise, IIRC all other face-offs were in the favour of PS4. That should tell us something, right?
It only matters in the most self-evident way: right now, for some people, it makes a difference that the PS4 versions of these games look better than their Xbox One counterparts. How much does it matter to you personally? It matters precisely as much as you think it matters that one version of a game looks better than the other one.
To be honest, it only matters to multiplatform owners really since they obviously want the best version in most cases. For those only with PS4, it just feels a bit better knowing you have the best version in most multiplatform games.
So basically for continuous self assurance they made the right purchase? This is a quite weird statement you made.
Swear, it makes some of you come off as really insecure and spiteful. Sure some (I did say some) games have a slight edge in performance. But the way some of the comments come across, you guys show your insecurity issues by making these small differences seem like graphical milestones, or you downplay that the gap is indeed closing this early in the generation, or you flat deny that one console can/does actually achieve parity with the other. And when that happens, you move goal posts and say something to the tune of(well, game X isn't really pushing either of the hardware as much anyway).
It's just like dealing with a woman with major insecurity issues. She always has to be assured of something, often, about herself. Or she downplays or judges others unfairly to make themselves feel better, regardless if it's true or not. Some will even lie to do so. That's what makes them so damned needy and annoying. Sony fans act the same way....
That's why I take small cheap shots at all Sony fan boys sometimes. I know your weak spot. I know how to get at you...
It's just like dealing with a woman with major insecurity issues. She always has to be assured of something, often, about herself. Or she downplays or judges others unfairly to make themselves feel better, regardless if it's true or not. Some will even lie to do so. That's what makes them so damned needy and annoying. Sony fans act the same way....
That's why I take small cheap shots at all Sony fan boys sometimes. I know your weak spot. I know how to get at you...
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For some reason this sounds familiar, oh yea it’s from a Kotaku "article".
If you can't come up with your own ideas and think for yourself you can always copy and paste someone else’s. I guess it just feels a bit better.