Killzone: Shadow Fall Thread

Flynn said:
Of course it does - no one's arguing otherwise - but Killzone proved even the most staunch pixel counters couldn't even tell the difference between 1920x1080 and HALF that resolution. It's so sad, and yet hilarious at the same time.
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I would say you're partially right, in that most people couldn't tell. however, to say it's not important, even in cases like this, is a little shortsighted.

you say it's unimportant because most can't tell, and that's where you're wrong. Most can't tell because there's nothing to compare to. Imagine if KZ was also on pc at true 1080p....are you suggesting that most wouldn't be able to tell the difference between PS4's lowered mp resolution versus the pc version (hypothetically speaking, if there was a pc version)?

So yeah, you ARE CORRECT, it really doesn't matter, nor can most people tell....but they can't tell more because there's nothing to compare it to.
 
This kind of thing happened with the PS4 Dead Nation port. The message got out somehow that the game was running at 60 fps and people including myself automatically believed it. But now the devs are stating the truth that its only running at 30 fps. Its another example of us falling for PR speak or fud, maybe because some of us want it to be true while others just take the word given. Either way, I never needed a technical break down of a game to tell my eyes what looks good and what is fun. Judge for yourself and stop letting others decide.

There definitely is a double standard going on. Sony games not at full HD and its ok. But when the same thing happens to X1 games is this big travesty in gaming.
 
BUSTERMAN said:
This kind of thing happened with the PS4 Dead Nation port. The message got out somehow that the game was running at 60 fps and people including myself automatically believed it. But now the devs are stating the truth that its only running at 30 fps. Its another example of us falling for PR speak or fud, maybe because some of us want it to be true while others just take the word given. Either way, I never needed a technical break down of a game to tell my eyes what looks good and what is fun. Judge for yourself and stop letting others decide.

There definitely is a double standard going on. Sony games not at full HD and its ok. But when the same thing happens to X1 games is this big travesty in gaming.
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I don't think the travesty is so much in the resolution being lowered, but rather, the resolution differences between one system and the other among the same game (multiplats).
For example, most gamers agree that Ryse is one of the best looking games on next gen console, regardless of resolution. The travesty is....why is CoD 720p on one versus 1080p on the other (example).


But yeah, like I said...it really doesn't matter, especially if the game is great versus medicore. I'm sure most of us here would prefer to play TF at 720p last gen visuals over KZ.
 
IMO games like Ryse a 3rd person hack & slash has different rez requirements then a FPS where you want 1080p. Others would say sacrifice rez for 60fps in fps is more important to them.
 
Qbert said:
I don't think the travesty is so much in the resolution being lowered, but rather, the resolution differences between one system and the other among the same game (multiplats).
For example, most gamers agree that Ryse is one of the best looking games on next gen console, regardless of resolution. The travesty is....why is CoD 720p on one versus 1080p on the other (example).


But yeah, like I said...it really doesn't matter, especially if the game is great versus medicore. I'm sure most of us here would prefer to play TF at 720p last gen visuals over KZ.
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So why the uproar in TF's resolution? Some gamers are using it at a way to slight the X1. But now we know KZ is not running in full HD . So now the new spin is "what about multiplatform games". Its such bullsh!t and I'm tired of the spin doctors running in full force to the defense of Sony.
 
Flynn's idea is busted. even though he thinks examples are stupid but his idea is basically this

We have put a 600hp car on the track but it's obviously lagging behind the other 600hp cars, it's easy to see and we can't quite figure out why it isn't keeping up. Must be a problem with the driver or something but hell whatever...

Well, it turns out the engine in the car is actually not 600hp as stated, no wonder it wasn't going as fast as the other cars.

Flynn: well obviously, we don't need faster cars to keep up with the other cars, no one knew it was slower to begin with.
People are blowing this whole, faster car thing out of proportion... (this is the worse argument he has yet) Stop grouping people flynn. Stereotyping is the worst.

So why the uproar in TF's resolution? Some gamers are using it at a way to slight the X1. But now we know KZ is not running in full HD . So now the new spin is "what about multiplatform games". Its such bullsh!t and I'm tired of the spin doctors running in full force to the defense of Sony.
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then just ignore their ideas, talk to the people who have a reason that fits your value.

I do prefer a game for it's gameplay over it's visuals but that just isn't the topic at hand here. Speaking of which, I really disliked KZ SF a lot.
 
BUSTERMAN said:
So why the uproar in TF's resolution? Some gamers are using it at a way to slight the X1. But now we know KZ is not running in full HD . So now the new spin is "what about multiplatform games". Its such bullsh!t and I'm tired of the spin doctors running in full force to the defense of Sony.
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Because visually, it should be better for a next gen game. It's NOT a ding against the XB1, my ding is against the game itself, and even on pc.


So no, it's not "spin", as you put it. From the beginning, i was dinging the visuals even on pc.
 
Anyway, someone let me know when the promised co-op mode releases. We are going on 4 months now after release and still nothing. :confused:
 
BUSTERMAN said:
Anyway, someone let me know when the promised co-op mode releases. We are going on 4 months now after release and still nothing. :confused:
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Pretty lame, though I feel they may just drop it without any fanfare. The news about the maps came a few days ago, and they release tomorrow.
 
blue said:
Pretty lame, though I feel they may just drop it without any fanfare. The news about the maps came a few days ago, and they release tomorrow.
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The bad thing is I actually paid for the season pass back when the game released. I’ve had funds in my PSN account for some time now (gift cards) and figured the pass would be a good investment because I really like co-op in shooters. But once again I am burned by the season pass of not knowing what exactly I’m paying for or when I’m getting it. I’m done with season passes from now on. I’ll wait for content to release and then make up my mind on whether or not to purchase.

Almost all the release titles for new consoles have had DLC with some having multiple offerings. Assassin’s Creed, Ghosts, Battlefield, Ryse, Forza, Dead Rising…..all of these games shipped their DLC and yet Killzone’s is still a no show.
 
I have a right to b!tch because I was stupid enough to buy the damn season pass. :D

So yeah, most of my frustration stems from my own boneheaded move while GG deserves a swift kick in the rear for advertising a mode way before launch that has yet to see the light of day.

If I hadn’t bought the season pass I would have sold this game a long time ago. Ohh well, live and learn and hesitate to support GG going forward. At least not until I’m in possession of the facts concerning any of their future released games.
 
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well i played it, boring but beatiful campaign(havent finished yet cause of the boredom) and average MP. so i am ok, who is left
 
i wish the style of the mp was more similar to kz3, but just doesn't really feel like that.
 
It tells me to put the disc in when I try to play the mp. Since I have rented the game before do I not qualify to play the free mp?
 
Raniok said:
I don't know if your Gamertag is wrong or you are just full of s***, because you have zero hours played on the multiplayer.
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well i played like 2 matches and watched few hours of MP streams when it launched which was more then enough for me to see no potential there
 
BUSTERMAN said:
This kind of thing happened with the PS4 Dead Nation port. The message got out somehow that the game was running at 60 fps and people including myself automatically believed it. But now the devs are stating the truth that its only running at 30 fps.
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In regards to Dead Nation, no one had a clue what, if any, upgrades there would be on a PS4 version until it was announced last week. People just made some guesses it might be 1080p and 60 fps, there was no source or even reason to assume any of this though. Just internet guessing / hoping, the announcement last week was the first and only official piece of PR that's been released on that game.
 
Would those of you who've played it suggest I play through the Shadowfall campaign on easy difficulty to make it go faster / avoid frustration? I never had any difficulty with 2 or 3 difficulty wise, but I recall seeing many here who suffered some frustration.
 
u2popmofo said:
Would those of you who've played it suggest I play through the Shadowfall campaign on easy difficulty to make it go faster / avoid frustration? I never had any difficulty with 2 or 3 difficulty wise, but I recall seeing many here who suffered some frustration.
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I guess, the game isn't good at all and dying and replaying would only make it worse. It may be technically good looking but I thought most of the game was ugly, the only good looking parts IMO were the two parts they had showed as demos at events.

Most of the levels and design, enemy placement is just plain bad. I'm really glad my PS4 came with this game, would have felt bummed buying it.

Enjoyed Ghosts SP a lot more than KZ's. Max Payne 3 is better as well, cause some of the levels are pretty decent in MP3. 75 percent of KZ SF is mostly garbage. I would have assumed they would have most of the game in the city and had it more open. Seemed like that would make sense for a game with a big wall between two factions. Nope, the game just goes to some very odd places for no apparent good reason at all.
 
u2popmofo said:
Would those of you who've played it suggest I play through the Shadowfall campaign on easy difficulty to make it go faster / avoid frustration? I never had any difficulty with 2 or 3 difficulty wise, but I recall seeing many here who suffered some frustration.
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I guess if you just want to breeze through it then go ahead and lower the difficulty. The A.I. was plenty stupid on Normal difficulty. I think some gamers had problems with this game because it has much slower pacing than say Call of Duty, you can't sprint through this game's levels. I also think some forget to use the echo ability for enemy placement or drone abilities to help with combat or limit combat by hacking terminals so no reinforcements come calling. If I could only give one piece of advice it would be to stay equipped with an assault rifle for range/accuracy over the temptation of going in with a shotty.
 
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Raniok said:
No, of your judgment based on 2 matches.
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yeah, watched vids, didnt expect much.. played few matches which was dull and s***. i am not gonna play more of a game i didnt enjoy a second of

campaign i stuck with for the visuals and even that became so dull i couldnt finish it.

i am sorry you dont like my opinion of the game but saying its not valid is r******d
 
So you believe you have the same understanding of Killzone Shadow Fall as someone who plays it regularly? If you do, then produce more words than "this is rubbish" or "this is garbage" or "this is dull". Provide evidence to your claims and then you are to be taken seriously on a subject.

Objective criticism. Yes, it can exist.
 
Dibils said:
i am sorry you dont like my opinion of the game but saying its not valid is r******d
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If you only played two rounds in any MP, doesn't matter what the title is, I really wouldn't care about your opinion. You're certainly entitled to it, but I know I wouldn't care about it.

I certainly wouldn't call it average either. Or bad. Or good for that matter. I only played two matches.
 
Raniok said:
So you believe you have the same understanding of Killzone Shadow Fall as someone who plays it regularly? If you do, then produce more words than "this is rubbish" or "this is garbage" or "this is dull". Provide evidence to your claims and then you are to be taken seriously on a subject.

Objective criticism. Yes, it can exist.
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we never talked about understanding it or giving opinions on the game LMAO i did that months ago and havent played it since so i cant give any detailed feedback on the game

you accused people of not playing the game yet posting about it, then i said i did play it. my only post before that was:

Dibils said:
i hate these comments

the difference is, with games on these consoles 1080p comes at a cost. if these devs are being pressured to make it 1080p that means the gameplay/content will suffer, is that what you want

sure if you have exact same game running on 1080p and 900p/720p(with same FPS), ofcourse 1080p is better. i think devs should be aiming for 900p, i think thats a good compromise
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it finally got new posts after its release

LOLZ
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didnt even critisize it... your problem was jumping on my back without looking at who posted what ;)
 
blue said:
If you only played two rounds in any MP, doesn't matter what the title is, I really wouldn't care about your opinion. You're certainly entitled to it, but I know I wouldn't care about it.

I certainly wouldn't call it average either. Or bad. Or good for that matter. I only played two matches.
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i never said you should care about my opinion.. but i did play it and that is my opinion (from months ago). deal with it
 
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