NeoGaf: Halo 4, One Year Later: What Happened?

I've always sort of tailed off with Halo games. I play them a ton for the first few months after launch and then usually move on to something else, or go back to Gears.

That said, and I know I'm in the minority here, Halo 4's campaign was the best since CE and its multiplayer was the best since Halo 2.
 
Tommygun. said:
The last time the top 10 chart was updated, everything above halo is either call of duty or sports games. (The minecraft, I can't explain that one) I think most of this is bs, but I don't care anyway, finding a game is still easy. I think it's that gaming isn't really a gamers thing anymore, all the most played games are sports games and call of duty, it's a different environment.

That, AND everyone got needlessly pissy about sprinting. Sh!t, what really changed? You still run around mostly symmetrical "arena" boxes getting to power weapons and five/four shotting with your shooty tube of choice.

Still, it's the most successful sales-wise. At least there's that.
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It isnt just about sprinting

It was the fastest selling. I never heard that it outsold Halo 3 overall. Although if it did that isnt really that impressive considering the 360 userbase.
 
Squiggs said:
All the Halos are perfect to me. Yes, even Halo Wars.
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I loved Halo Wars! I also loved Halo 3 ODST.

On Topic, Halo 4 had an enjoyable campaign, but it felt less like Halo than the others. The Multiplayer is horrible. I tried multiple times to get into it, but it couldn't hold me. I hope 343 skips the Forerunners for 5, because they were not fun to fight. Prior Halos had an identity of their own. Halo 4 took too much from other shooters, COD especially.
 
Bionic Wolf said:
I loved Halo Wars! I also loved Halo 3 ODST.

On Topic, Halo 4 had an enjoyable campaign, but it felt less like Halo than the others. The Multiplayer is horrible. I tried multiple times to get into it, but it couldn't hold me. I hope 343 skips the Forerunners for 5, because they were not fun to fight. Prior Halos had an identity of their own. Halo 4 took too much from other shooters, COD especially.
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Halo 4 had an amazing story for a return to the series. I liked fighting the Forerunners but it got annoying at times, like when the watchers fly away when you shoot them. :smash: The multiplayer was good for the first few months but then it got really unbalanced. The BR was my favorite fun but then everybody started using the DMR so much that it's like it didn't even matter. I think way too many shooters these days take from COD. Damn military shooters, ruining my Halos and such.
 
Zubalon said:
Halo 4 single player was the best since CE
and the Multiplayer was better than Reach .
Basically all the Gaf hate was just becuase it was MS,yes the hate started before the X1 announcment.
4 > Reach in every way.
343 will most likely make the best Halo yet with 5,god please let it be open worlded !!!!
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Reach campaign is far far better than Halo4...it's not even in the same league. Reach had a story, for starters.
The numbers don't lie. Halo fans unanimously have rejected Halo4. It's just not Halo, it's Call of Halo, and it stinks.
I have no idea what you're talking about bringing Gaf into the argument. NeoGaf killed Halo4?
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Insane idiotic opinions = Ignore. Bye now.
 
It's the first Halo I haven't played and I have no interest in playing it even for the story.
 
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MR SCHULTZ said:
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Reach campaign is far far better than Halo4...it's not even in the same league. Reach had a story, for starters.
The numbers don't lie. Halo fans unanimously have rejected Halo4. It's just not Halo, it's Call of Halo, and it stinks.
I have no idea what you're talking about bringing Gaf into the argument. NeoGaf killed Halo4?
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Insane idiotic opinions = Ignore. Bye now.
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You do know that Halo 4 has a chance to be the number one selling Halo game of all time right?
 
MR SCHULTZ said:
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Reach campaign is far far better than Halo4...it's not even in the same league. Reach had a story, for starters.
The numbers don't lie. Halo fans unanimously have rejected Halo4. It's just not Halo, it's Call of Halo, and it stinks.
I have no idea what you're talking about bringing Gaf into the argument. NeoGaf killed Halo4?
:txbrolleyes:

Insane idiotic opinions = Ignore. Bye now.
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Funny. I'm a huge Halo fan and I'd take 4's story and how it was told over Reach's. Not that I don't love reach too. I'd defo give the MP to Reach, though, but I play for SP first and foremost. Over all a stellar first attempt by 343, imo. All I need now is more open environs to take advantage of that AI.

...Not so Unanimous after all...
 
MR SCHULTZ said:
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Reach campaign is far far better than Halo4...it's not even in the same league. Reach had a story, for starters.
The numbers don't lie. Halo fans unanimously have rejected Halo4. It's just not Halo, it's Call of Halo, and it stinks.
I have no idea what you're talking about bringing Gaf into the argument. NeoGaf killed Halo4?
:txbrolleyes:

Insane idiotic opinions = Ignore. Bye now.
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Wait because of the Mulitplayer ....Honestly Reach was terrible single player wise,the ending was terrible,horrible one of the worst in gaming history another Bungie half assed ending's .I can agree maybe the masses like the multiplayer better but the numbers say other wise on the single player 4 outsold Reach.
 
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Viktor said:
It's the first Halo I haven't played and I have no interest in playing it even for the story.
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Your lose ... Its the first freaking Halo with a antagonist and people rejected it , why ?? cause it didn't say Bungie on the box .... OHHH and Halo 4 pulled off the impossible by far the best graphics on the 360 and some of the best in the generation that's my honest opinion.
 
de3d1 said:
Game was an awesome exclusive to have, the multiplayer was pretty different, but apparently "stale" too. MS exclusives can't win, there either "too different" or "too stale"

Makes no sense.
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Yeah I don't get it really. I mean this was 343i first crack at Halo.
They have to get it perfect or it sucks???

Give them a chance. Let them come out with Halo 5 before we take them to the cleaners.
 
H4 SP was just great... truly enjoyed it over H3 but god damn the MP sucked ass... needs to go back to drawing board... need to go back to H2 MP times
 
I haven't even finished the main campaign. All I played was Spartan Ops. Say what you will about the SP,but having a a co-op campaing set up in episodes like that was a damn good idea.
 
I enjoyed the SP.Much more than the other Halo's. Bungie are not good story tellers IMO.
 
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I did like having a semblance of direction. Reach told you what to do, but it always felt sort of vague. I suppose that was partly the point, feeling like a small part of a much larger plan, as war often goes.

Still, I will unashamedly say that Halo 4 is the best Halo to date.

I will now not back this statement up with anything, because discussions like this are often cyclical and go nowhere so I'll just stay out of it now I guess. (or worse, it gets to be a circle jerk of hate like the splinter cell forums)

Plus I'm cool like that.
 
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343 did an excellent job with Halo 4 and I'm positive that they will learn from their mistakes.

As many others already said: I too think that the campaign was the best since Halo CE. And I agree The Wolf King Bungie arn't the best story tellers around while I can definitely see 343 doing a much better job in the future.

Plus the engine they created for Halo 4 still amazes me even today, can't wait to see what they achieve on XO.

I don't think that Halo 4's mulitplayer was horrible either. It was just a little different - and while one can argue whether some changes were for the better I think the REAL problem is another one: Oversaturation.

We are playing Halo games for how long now?

Let me tell you this: I've organized Halo Lan parties since the CE days and I could see the decline in enthusiasm beginning with Halo 3. It's not that the games are in any form bad it isn't a Bungie/343 thing either it's just that Halo MP has long reached it's peak.
Don't fix something if it ain't broke. That's Bungie's own words back then.
However the series HAD to evolve - you can only do so much with a given formula until it gets stale. The H2/3 formula just worked perfectly (mostly) and there was no need to reinvent the wheel.

Now some people do not get the problem at hand. You can't say "Let's just do the same thing for the xxxth time and all is good.". It's not desirable either. People just want to have the old feeling they don't want the same game they played 10 years ago (even if they think so). You want to play classic Halo? Then go play Halo CE/2/3.

I really love Halo from the the bottom of my heart, I had so much joy with this series.
But even as a long term fan I know that 343 has to find their own way.

You can play it save and create another great but not groundbreaking game.
Or you can step up to the plate and try to craft a modern Halo CE.
 
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Also to add to the thread, I truly believe halo has the best OST, bar none. The guy that worked with Halo 4's OST truly stepped it up. I remember listening to Arrival in my graduation and it made everything feel epic!
 
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