The End of the World: A Political Thread. A New Hope coming soon!

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I like Bernie personally, but worry about him as a candidate. Just watch any part of his debates against Hillary in the primary. The guy has a lot of great high level ideas, but the moment you hammer him on details, he folds. Hillary pretty much shredded him in every debate. Go watch some old clips and see what I mean.

From a strategy standpoint, I think you play into the Republican's hands by saying "socialism". While the average joe middle class voter should like Bernie's message, the GOP has done too good a job of poisoning and twisting it.

Talk about Medicare, tax policy and other things, but avoid that word. GOP strategists purposely tell their candidates to say "socialism" as much as possible.
 
Let's hope so. My gut says we'll see Roger Stone and/or associates indicted first.
 
Don JR would have to be an end game move if it were to happen because Trump would go nuclear
 
Let's hope so. My gut says we'll see Roger Stone and/or associates indicted first.
Don JR would have to be an end game move if it were to happen because Trump would go nuclear
I hope it's dropping the hammer. stone and associate one day and don jr the next. Though tomorrow is Friday, maybe just one set of traitorous criminals is all we have time for?
 
Could be back to F5 Friday's. Miss em
Forgot that trump was answering Mueller’s questions this week. He probably sfinally saw them after his lawyers answered them for him and they had to show him. He got frightened at what the questions alluded to what the special council knows.
 
A rambling idiot. This is how he answered the question. This isn’t piecing two different questions. This is how he answered it, word for word.

THE DAILY CALLER: What about immigration, sir? Are you willing to shut down the government if you don’t get a certain set of policies?

TRUMP: I may be. I may be. I’ll have to see how it plays out. But I may very well be willing to shut down the government.

I think it’s horrible what’s happening and, you know, building the wall, it’s in smaller stages, we can build it very quickly. I’m building the wall in smaller stages and we moved the military there, we put up barbed wire, we did all sorts of things. You have to have a barrier. You have to have a barrier.

Look, we have a chance of, they can do presidential harassment, put very simply, and I’ll be very good at handling that, and I think I’ll be better than anybody in the history of this office. And in a certain way, I look forward to it because I actually think it’s good for me politically, because everyone knows it’s pure harassment. Just like the witch hunt, the Mueller witch hunt. It’s pure harassment. It’s horrible. It’s horrible that they’re allowed to get away with it.

Again, not Senate-confirmed but, you know. You have 17 people, half of them worked for Hillary Clinton, some on the foundation. The Hillary Clinton Foundation. I mean, you think of it
 
A rambling idiot. This is how he answered the question. This isn’t piecing two different questions. This is how he answered it, word for word.

THE DAILY CALLER: What about immigration, sir? Are you willing to shut down the government if you don’t get a certain set of policies?

TRUMP: I may be. I may be. I’ll have to see how it plays out. But I may very well be willing to shut down the government.

I think it’s horrible what’s happening and, you know, building the wall, it’s in smaller stages, we can build it very quickly. I’m building the wall in smaller stages and we moved the military there, we put up barbed wire, we did all sorts of things. You have to have a barrier. You have to have a barrier.

Look, we have a chance of, they can do presidential harassment, put very simply, and I’ll be very good at handling that, and I think I’ll be better than anybody in the history of this office. And in a certain way, I look forward to it because I actually think it’s good for me politically, because everyone knows it’s pure harassment. Just like the witch hunt, the Mueller witch hunt. It’s pure harassment. It’s horrible. It’s horrible that they’re allowed to get away with it.

Again, not Senate-confirmed but, you know. You have 17 people, half of them worked for Hillary Clinton, some on the foundation. The Hillary Clinton Foundation. I mean, you think of it

We should have a Space Force and he should lead it if it gets him off this planet.
 
Charging Assange around when Ecuador's embassy wants to give him the boot. Please be true. Please be true. Please be true. Please be true.
 
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/16/media/cnn-trump-lawsuit-hearing/index.html

(CNN) Federal judge Timothy J. Kelly sided with CNN on Friday, ordering the White House to reinstate chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta's press pass.
The ruling was an initial victory for CNN in its lawsuit against President Trump and several top aides.
The lawsuit alleges that CNN and Acosta's First and Fifth Amendment rights are being violated by the suspension of Acosta's press pass.​
Kelly did not rule on the underlying case on Friday. But he granted CNN's request for a temporary restraining order.​
This result means that Acosta will have his access to the White House restored for at least a short period of time. The judge said while explaining his decision that he believes that CNN and Acosta are likely to prevail in the case overall.​
Kelly made his ruling on the basis of CNN and Acosta's Fifth Amendment claims, saying the White House did not provide Acosta with the due process required to legally revoke his press pass.
He left open the possibility, however, that the White House could seek to revoke it again if it provided that due process, emphasizing the "very limited" nature of his ruling and saying he was not making a judgment on the First Amendment claims that CNN and Acosta have made.
 




Its nice to feel like my vote made a difference.

Out of all the races, the Cisneros/Kim one will be one of my favorites for sure if he pulls it off. Back when races were being called for first black woman from X elected, or first Muslim, etc, there were people commenting on Reddit about why no one was doing the same for Young Kim being first Korean American woman. Plus the fact she tried crying about counting all the votes etc means she can f*** right off.
 
I don't know about you guys but it's really pissing me off when I see people on twitter saying "If you want Pelosi gone you are sexist or ageist" etc I want her gone because she doesn't fight for the little guy, she's better than a republican but we should expect more from democratic leadership than just someone who raises a lot of money.
 
I don't know about you guys but it's really pissing me off when I see people on twitter saying "If you want Pelosi gone you are sexist or ageist" etc I want her gone because she doesn't fight for the little guy, she's better than a republican but we should expect more from democratic leadership than just someone who raises a lot of money.


Yeah it would be nice to have some fresh face to lead the way but who is that? You don't exactly see people lining up to get the job and for good reason. You have to actually want to be speaker. Whoever gets the job will have to deal with the smear machine on the right and claims they didn't enough on the left no matter what they actually do. Should they try to force someone into it like Paul Ryan who was ineffective for the GOP?

The ones who are claiming to want the job are to Pelosi's right not left. Pelosi is effective. Its Schumer that sucks.
 
Yeah it would be nice to have some fresh face to lead the way but who is that? You don't exactly see people lining up to get the job and for good reason. You have to actually want to be speaker. Whoever gets the job will have to deal with the smear machine on the right and claims they didn't enough on the left no matter what they actually do. Should they try to force someone into it like Paul Ryan who was ineffective for the GOP?

The ones who are claiming to want the job are to Pelosi's right not left. Pelosi is effective. Its Schumer that sucks.

Pelosi is most effective at raising money, I honestly don't think we'd have gotten the house back had anyone but Trump been president. Both Pelosi and Schumer need to go IMO. A lot of justice democrats want Pelosi gone and they are to her left, they are a new group though so they won't have the votes. I think a lot of the reason people aren't stepping up at the moment is them wanting to be sure they have a shot at winning before putting their necks on the line. If they challenge her and lose you know they are going to pay a price.
 
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Pelosi is most effective at raising money, I honestly don't think we'd have gotten the house back had anyone but Trump been president. Both Pelosi and Schumer need to go IMO. A lot of justice democrats want Pelosi gone and they are to her left, they are a new group though so they won't have the votes. I think a lot of the reason people aren't stepping up at the moment is them wanting to be sure they have a shot at winning before putting their necks on the line. If they challenge her and lose you know they are going to pay a price.

They don't have the votes because there isn't anyone to vote for

Its nonsense that you can't challenge her. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez staged a protest outside her office about climate change and it was successful. Thats what they can do. Force her to adopt positions they want.
 
They don't have the votes because there isn't anyone to vote for

Its nonsense that you can't challenge her. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez staged a protest outside her office about climate change and it was successful. Thats what they can do. Force her to adopt positions they want.

If someone challenges her and loses they'll be saying goodbye to certain key appointments etc, things go on behind the scenes.
 
I think people are over-thinking Pelosi. The GOP hates her. They ran entire campaigns against her in the House... and lost the House.

Groom new blood for 2020, but right now, all we need is someone to cheese off the Republicans, and Pelosi does that well.

Sadly it is a long time until 2020. We'd all like it to come sooner, but there's along time to go before the big election.
 
They don't have the votes because there isn't anyone to vote for

Its nonsense that you can't challenge her. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez staged a protest outside her office about climate change and it was successful. Thats what they can do. Force her to adopt positions they want.

Yea until there is more viable replacement its best that Pelosi is the speaker for the moment. Maybe someone from the freshmen class after they get some experience, I can total see AOC as speaker one day. That should be the strategy for now, force her toward policies the people want.
 
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