The Xbox and Windows 10 cross-buy, cross-play, cross-guys Microsoft ecosystem fun times thread.

Troublegum said:
So it means Xbox and PC gamers get blowjobs, shiny stickers and kebabs?

What a time to be alive!
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Some of my catholic mates are doing this fad diet called 'lent', and have given up meat for 30 days or something, so I decided to join in.

I've already cheated, after I went past a kebab vendor, and I was all like"This better be the best kebab ever..."

It was dry, limp and not salty enough.

It was also the first ever sober kebab I've ever had. I think that was the mistake.
 
Oh nice. There's an actual thread on this so now i can complain some more without completely derailing the other thread. Wait.. that kinda already happened. Oh well, anyway. Let me speak on behalf of CrapGamer, and any gamer who bought an Xbox One because they thought they were getting what was advertised by Microsoft.

The Xbox One just got crushed in January NPD. It's a down month anyway, but getting outsold by the PS4 by over 100k? What do you guys think is going to happen in the coming months now that there's no reason to buy an Xbox One until Gears of War 4(If that's not coming to PC too)? It's not going to end well this gen. Which is fine, Microsoft is looking forward to next gen. But is there even going to be a next gen for them or are they just going third party? Come on guys, is a free copy of Quantum Break really worth diminishing the Xbox brand? If this is such a good thing, i wonder why Sony isn't putting Uncharted 4 on PC. I mean, it's all about making a quick buck right?

We all see the benefits of Microsoft putting their games on PC. They'll make a few extra bucks from the few PC gamers that actually buy games instead of pirating them. It's all one ecosystem, but some of us didn't buy an Xbox for the ecosystem. We bought it because we were promised exclusive games. This is only going to hurt the brand in the end. I guess some of you guys don't care if you're playing these games on an Xbox console, PC, PS5, NX, Ouya, or whatever else they can possibly put their games on. I'd prefer to play on an Xbox console. Only time will tell, and if i'm wrong i'll be the first to admit it.

Here's my problem. If Phil is breaking down walls, why do Xbox gamers have to pay for Xbox Live when PC gamers are getting it for free? Are we going to have to play against PC gamers on Halo and Gears? I don't think it's going to work if someone's got a keyboard/mouse advantage and 60fps while we're locked in at 30fps. Oh and if you're going to bring a game like Quantum Break to PC, can you not lie about it coming to PC? It's not that hard. Even if only one person with a beefy rig bought an Xbox One thinking they could only play QB on it then that's wrong. Why wasn't Quantum Break announced for PC months ago? Was it so you could mislead consumers into buying an X1 right up until the last minute? Better yet, why not just keep QB exclusive to X1 for 6 months? What's the rush? Oh right, you're giving up on the X1, aren't you Microsoft?

Yes, i am crying because i want hardware and i want exclusives that are actually exclusive. I bought an Xbox One thinking it's the only place to play Halo, Gears, Forza, and all the other exclusives. Some people see this as a great thing, a big win for consumers because you can play your games on multiple devices. That's great, and i'm really happy for you. But i want what i bought into, and Microsoft's knee jerk reaction to getting their ass handed to them by Sony isn't helping me sleep at night. Somebody get TD his bib. There, now you don't even have to respond to me. Just ignore and move on.

TLDR: Xbox is still the best box. I just wish Microsoft loved their console as much as i do. Oh and my bib, please someone get me my bib. There's peas and carrots everywhere.
 
Crapgamer is totally into the whole PC and Xbox thing now, has a hashtag and everything.

I think he changed his mind right at the point he was losing subscribers to his YouTube channel and wasn't receiving support from anyone within his close group of sycophants.

His favourite type of footwear is flip-flops.
 
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I'm still not sure why as an Xbox fan I should be concerned about games coming out on PC too... Halo 1 and 2 came out on PC... didn't seem to bother anyone.
 
Kerosene31 said:
I'm still not sure why as an Xbox fan I should be concerned about games coming out on PC too... Halo 1 and 2 came out on PC... didn't seem to bother anyone.
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Yeah but it was later than Xbox so still felt special if you're really insecure.

I think Gears was a year later in 2007. Special like a fully loaded special kebab with three types of meat (doner, chicken, shish!)

I wish I was special, you're so f***ing special. *CHICK CHUNK* *CHICK CHUNK*
But I'm a creep, I'm Crapgameeeeer
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here.
 
Let me call this out now. This E3 Microsoft will drop GOLD sub requirement for multiplayer, everything is pointing to this eventuality for a unified eco system. You heard it here first folks.
 
Bold prediction.

I have bookmarked the page, but please bear in mind what happened to poor menace-uk-.

At least you didn't get cocky by practically insulting everyone when you made that prediction, though.
 
TheGeneral said:
Let me call this out now. This E3 Microsoft will drop GOLD sub requirement for multiplayer, everything is pointing to this eventuality for a unified eco system. You heard it here first folks.
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Anything is possible but I don't think they'll go that far. PC and Xbox are still very separate.

I think decisions like this have more to do with the PC market. Remember, they are competing with things like Steam Machines and other linux based systems. Not that there's much there, but throwing PC a few big games will keep Windows 10 the big choice for gaming and/or just about everything else.

We're still miles away from me not needing an Xbox. There's still tons of console exclusives and tons of PC only exclusives that keep those two very separate.
 
TheGeneral said:
Let me call this out now. This E3 Microsoft will drop GOLD sub requirement for multiplayer, everything is pointing to this eventuality for a unified eco system. You heard it here first folks.
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There would be no point. They would just be giving money away.
 
TDbank24 said:
The Xbox One just got crushed in January NPD. It's a down month anyway, but getting outsold by the PS4 by over 100k?
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Yet somehow, once this happened, Fallout 4 didn't miraculously downgrade itself to 360-level features and Halo Reach's backwards compatibility didn't become less effective because of insufficient consoleflopz. The Xbox One is selling well. It's outselling what the 360 did. It's just not beating the PS4 nor is it going to, and that's okay.

If the brand is still successful (it is), profitable (it is), providing great content (it is), and has the right leadership in place (hell to the yes), the future is great. Sure, they can lose this gen by a little less by being overly territorial over the games, or they can play the long game. If anything, this seems to point to MS' intention to continue to stay in the console space for the long haul - otherwise, they'd try to wring out every possible console sale from this.

And frankly, the whole "look at who's winning the console war" is kind of what led to this now. I like Kinect. I would probably have gone with the bundle in the beginning if it were optional, and the voice control to me is worth the premium. But you know and I know that it was there and mandatory because Nintendo hit it out of the park on the Wii, and so we got the Kinect and PS Move and the Fleshlight and... well, you get the point. Sony's knocking it out of the park now with better hardware and mostly riding the third party wave. It's time for MS to stop following and start standing out on their own.
 
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TheGeneral said:
Let me call this out now. This E3 Microsoft will drop GOLD sub requirement for multiplayer, everything is pointing to this eventuality for a unified eco system. You heard it here first folks.
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Feb event.
 
I'm glad to see Phil Spencer in Mattrick's role, he's doing a great job. You can tell Phil's a gamer.
I just think that although MS screwed up the initial reveal of the Xbox One, the real reason PS4 is massively out selling X1 is resolutiongate. MS need to ensure they never let Playstation have such a power difference again. Also the check in online every 24 hours was doing the rounds online a good year before launch, one look at any gaming forum in the run up to the announcement could have told MS how unpopular that decision would be. Even though for me personally as someone who gameshares and buys only digital games, it would have been the better option for me, all the perks of digital (like game sharing and not swapping disks out) but being able to take advantage of retail price wars and being able to trade in.
 
Sometimes I feel like MS is too advanced for gamers. They show time and time again that they are leaders and that they have a vision and love to innovate. The problem is that gamers are never ready for change. It's the nature of the beast.
 
Edge BC said:
Sometimes I feel like MS is too advanced for gamers. They show time and time again that they are leaders and that they have a vision and love to innovate. The problem is that gamers are never ready for change. It's the nature of the beast.
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TheGeneral said:
Let me call this out now. This E3 Microsoft will drop GOLD sub requirement for multiplayer, everything is pointing to this eventuality for a unified eco system. You heard it here first folks.
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That would be big. I don't see it happening but it would be a megaton.
 
griff_dai said:
Absolutely no way Xbox Gold subs are going anywhere...
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GOLD subs are here to stay but mp will be free. XBL is being integrated into Azure, cost of running is low... peanuts really. COD DLC was an albatross around Xbox neck, mainly funded by XBL Gold, that's gone now. Microsoft wants to make money through cloud services and the incentive is there to unify the eco system which would make mp free. There will of course be Gold with gold benefits such as free games % discount and other perks. But MP will be set free, watch this drop at E3.
 
I don't think Games/Deals with Gold/Party chat etc is enough in itself to carry the Gold sub, at least not at its current price.

I think removing the multiplayer paywall would be a last ditch move if they were hemorrhaging monthly active users on Xbox Live.

MAUs are growing according to their last quarter results (although I suspect a lot of that growth is from deferred Windows 10 metrics reporting and we may see a reduction this quarter.)
 
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Bellybama said:
I love the idea of buying a game once, and getting it for all my platforms.
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Yes, this is good in theory. This doesn't mean mean Microsoft should feel themselves obliged to port games to PC just because they can. Killer Instinct, ReCore, Sea of Thieves, Halo Wars 2, Quantum Break.

That leave us with Crackdown 3, Gears 4 and a Forza game for the rest of 2016..of which before I would have said, would never come to PC, probably most definitely will now. I have defended Microsoft of this for years and it truly looked like they were finally getting their act together (RYSE and Dead Rising 3 being exceptions)....now I can't even trust them to put Xbox One as their number One priority.

Especially when it one of the main attractions to the console, as research showed was a significant draw to the exclusives.

Now if E3 rolls around and MS has twice as many Triple A games as last year (12 instead of 6 for example) , I will cede it might be worth it. I have my doubts though and bet we see the same amount as last year.
 
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Sasquatch Montana said:
Yes, this is good in theory. This doesn't mean mean Microsoft should feel themselves obliged to port games to PC just because they can. Killer Instinct, ReCore, Sea of Thieves, Halo Wars 2, Quantum Break.

That leave us with Crackdown 3, Gears 4 and a Forza game for the rest of 2016..of which before I would have said, would never come to PC, probably most definitely will. I have defended Microsoft of this for years and it truly looked like they were finally getting their act together (RYSE and Dead Rising 3 being exceptions)....now I can't even trust them to put Xbox One as their number One priority.

Especially when it one of the main attractions to the console, as research showed was a significant draw to the exclusives.

Now if E3 rolls around and MS has twice as many Triple A games as last year (12 instead of 6 for example) , I will cede it might be worth it. I have my doubts though and bet we see the same amount as last year.
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Actually, it leaves us with Killer Instinct, ReCore, Sea of Thieves, Halo Wars 2, Quantum Break, Crackdown 3, Gears 4, and Forza that we can STILL play on Xbox One. Gamers like you and me (basing this off your recent posts) were/are never going to play these on PC, so literally nothing has changed. We can and will still play these on our Xbox One, and as a result it still retains its value prospect for our market. All those gamers who only game on a console and prefer Xbox exclusives aren't going to be lost over this. I guess you could switch to a different console out of principal, but that would just be stupid AND you would be eliminating those exclusives yourself in that scenario.

Very literally, the only issue here is that certain persons are upset that others will get to play games that they don't feel like they should get to play UNLESS they buy an Xbox One.
 
Zcythe said:
Actually, it leaves us with Killer Instinct, ReCore, Sea of Thieves, Halo Wars 2, Quantum Break, Crackdown 3, Gears 4, and Forza that we can STILL play on Xbox One. Gamers like you and me (basing this off your recent posts) were/are never going to play these on PC, so literally nothing has changed. We can and will still play these on our Xbox One, and as a result it still retains its value prospect for our market. All those gamers who only game on a console and prefer Xbox exclusives aren't going to be lost over this. I guess you could switch to a different console out of principal, but that would just be stupid AND you would be eliminating those exclusives yourself in that scenario.

Very literally, the only issue here is that certain persons are upset that others will get to play games that they don't feel like they should get to play UNLESS they buy an Xbox One.
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I under stand completely what you are saying, I agree that the PC won't contribute much business away from the XBO, but if that's the case why even bother? While the One is still on track to outsell the 360 as long as this generation is as long as the last; At present it appears weak so MS pulling the rug out of it's biggest strengths is foolish, regardless of how it translates to actual sales, it's a negative perception.

Far fewer people are going to say "Oh man, playing the same game on my PC that I have on console is so convenient" (especially since the streaming option is already there) then the masses of fanboys and easily swayed media who will say "All Xbox One exclusives are on PC anyway"
 
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Sasquatch Montana said:
I under stand completely what you are saying, I agree that the PC won't contribute much business away from the XBO, but if that's the case why even bother? While the One is still on track to outsell the 360 as long as this generation is as long as the last; At present it appears weak so MS pulling the rug out of it's biggest strengths is foolish, regardless of how it translates to actual sales, it's a negative perception.

Far fewer people are going to say "Oh man, playing the same game on my PC that I have on console is so convenient" (especially since the streaming option is already there) then the masses of fanboys and easily swayed media who will say "All Xbox One exclusives are on PC anyway"
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Why bother? :laugh: Well, if you're Windows 10 user base is 200 million, then if only .5% of your user base buys a game, that is 1 million titles sold. One percent is 2 million. Hopefully you get the idea. The flipside is that you don't get any sales when you don't try.

I don't really give much thought to the "masses" of fanboys and easily swayed media because it has absolutely no effect on my purchase or my gaming habits.
 
Imma guess that this has a lot to do with the easier porting due to DX12. I would posit that they didn't anticipate the ease, and were able to get QB running for PC release faster than expected, and that's why the PC version announcement comes so close to release.
 
It's funny people still hating MS for destroying Rare. Time and time again Rare have stated they did what they wanted and had the full support of MS behind them.
 
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