The Xbox One Thread

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David said:
You mean all those issues the PS3 versin had?
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Yes. I like that you can't go wrong if you buy the 360 version of a game. Be be more stable, or better frame rate, or better visuals. Sometimes there is not much difference between the 2, especially later in the cycle, when then there is, most time its the PS3 is the version with issues.

This is one of the reason I pick up the XBOX over the PS3.
 
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Spartan said:
A lot of people in the states are going to get Battlefield on PS4 mainly due to it launching before Xbox One. However, I foresee the opposite in the EU as Xbox One releases first there. There really isn't too much of a difference between both versions and they both have their flaws in my opinion.
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There will certainly be some people that absolutely must get first console that launch, or the version of the game that launch first. But most people I believe can wait a week or 2 to get the version that they wanted.
 
Spartan said:
I personally never trashed any console for having worse looking games. I did buy the better version most of the time though. I personally don't think this crap matters as much as people will have you believe.
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Visually it'll be hard to tell the difference, but that wont matter because even at 1070p v 1080p word spreads that one is better than the other. People want what people say is the best, even if they don't really understand the difference. You average Joe doesn't know p from i or meg from gig, but they do understand that one is better than another. They understand that the chat at work, school, in a bar or anywhere else says that one is better than another. Then when they make a purchasing decision they weight up, is what they are buying the best and how does that fit with their budgets.

Posters keep saying the average person will not care about 720p v 1080p, but they do care about what their friends, colleagues, family and peers have to say about somethings perceived quality and they also care about money. So people are going to get to hear the X1 is not as good as its competitor, even if they don't understand the differences, they'll know it's 'inferior'. They'll also know it's $100/£80 more than the competitor that's perceived as better.

A question to those that believe the X1 has advanced graphical capabilities that will become apparent in a year or two. Do you really think the average Joe buying a console this year cares about these predictions when they have games running now that they can compare ?
 
Yossarian said:
Oxymoron. :hehe:
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who you callin a moron.
X1>PS4 see its Algabra.
I though I had to insult the Piece of S***4 in order to be a fanboy. I mean what's up with those teenytiny controllers.
Woooooooo day after tomorrow we are in November I know lets call it NoXember. and change thanksgiving to ThanXsgiving.
Lalalalalala I'm bored. When does the PS4 come out anyways. If one Sony fan is on here that day. That means: you fill in the blank
 
Yossarian said:
A question to those that believe the X1 has advanced graphical capabilities that will become apparent in a year or two. Do you really think the average Joe buying a console this year cares about these predictions when they have games running now that they can compare ?
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A good point, and I don't disagree, but why does everyone on the internet think that a winner is actually going to be declared for the entire generation in the 1st few weeks/months???

Did everyone speak with such over zealous doom and gloom at the launch of the PS3? I honestly don't remember, which makes me pretty sure it's a "No". It launched A full year later than the 360, and for a good $100 more. Why do things seem so different now?
 
Sheep Shagger said:
A good point, and I don't disagree, but why does everyone on the internet think that a winner is actually going to be declared for the entire generation in the 1st few weeks/months???

Did everyone speak with such over zealous doom and gloom at the launch of the PS3? I honestly don't remember, which makes me pretty sure it's a "No". It launched A full year later than the 360, and for a good $100 more. Why do things seem so different now?
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There was plenty of doom and gloom talk surrounding the PS3. I had one at launch and was genuinely concerned about its future for awhile.
 
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Zcythe said:
Of course people are entitled to their opinions and not everyone will agree. However, it is one thing to have an opinion and express it. It is another to consistently spam that opinion over and over again to an audience that has quite obviously let you know that they don't care about that opinion. Additionally, there are those who like to accuse people not concerned about resolutions or "powah" as blindly following MS and it is very condescending. I will follow the games and the experience, something Sony, in my opinion, has not delivered on. There is no blindly following to it; I honestly can't understand why someone would purchase a PS4 at launch in light of a lack of compelling exclusive content, other than brand loyalty. Now tell me who is "blindly" following.



I don't get people. As of this moment in time, I do not have any interest in what Sony has on offer. As such, I don't spend any time on Sony websites, forums, etc. I don't go to their "gathering places" and bash their console of choice or make fun of their preferences. My total time involved with Sony related discussions for next gen is probably inside 30 minutes. Why rain on the other party's parade? Why begrudge them of their enjoyment, in their community at that? Is there really so little to talk about or be excited about in that community that they need to come here and troll?
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Well....if your console of choice's list of exclusive only consisted of Knack and Killzone....what would you do?

Sorry I just had to say that, lol. But yeah....it seems they really don't have anything better to do. I am mostly talking about GAF when it comes to that though. The lengths they go to to trash Xbox in general is beyond pathetic.
 
Sheep Shagger said:
Fair enough, I honestly had no idea it was this bad. Had my head buried in my 360, didn't come up for air too often back then.
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I think the X1 is in better position than the PS3 since it does more. I was kind of disappointed by the price point though.

It will be interesting to see how it sells compared to the PS4 in the next year or so.
 
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Dno69 said:
I think the X1 is in better position than the PS3 since it does more. I was kind of disappointed by the price point though.

It will be interesting to see how it sells compared to the PS4 in the next year or so.
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$500 is expensive, but hopefully it will be worth it. None of can say with100% that either console will be better than the other one. Its all in what you get outnof it to justify the price. Shoot i just got the H4 console last year. So all to gether i dropped close to a grand on consoles in that timeframe.
Thank god for safety awards I actually got it all for zilch. But if you ask my wife the money could of been spent better.
 
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Sheep Shagger said:
but why does everyone on the internet think that a winner is actually going to be declared for the entire generation in the 1st few weeks/months???
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I would say momentum. For a start they are both launching in a similar time frame, people will compare the two and one will be declared the best by the end of November. The one that is perceived as best will pick up momentum, as more people buy it, other people will buy it because it's the most popular. That momentum builds and builds until the masses, who like a game every now and then but don't really know anything about consoles, just know a is best and b is not and purchase accordingly. You could get to a critical mass where success just leads to more success and for the competitor failure.

MS could have wiped out Playstation this upcoming gen, but saw the success of the casual friendly Wii and lost focus half way through last gen on what made Xbox such a great gaming brand. The loss of focus is what is costing them dear now, they've gimped the X1 from a gaming point of view to make a entertainment device instead. I already have more than enough devices that do this, with better functionality and no XBL subscription. Blame the Wii and Don Mattrick for this.

COME BACK PETER MOORE !!!
 
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Yossarian said:
I would say momentum. For a start they are both launching in a similar time frame, people will compare the two and one will be declared the best by the end of November. The one that is perceived as best will pick up momentum, as more people buy it, other people will buy it because it's the most popular. That momentum builds and builds until the masses, who like a game every now and then but don't really know anything about consoles, just know a is best and b is not and purchase accordingly. You could get to a critical mass where success just leads to more success and for the competitor failure.

MS could have wiped out Playstation this upcoming gen, but saw the success of the casual friendly Wii and lost focus half way through last gen on what made Xbox such a great gaming brand. The loss of focus is what is costing them dear now, they've gimped the X1 from a gaming point of view to make a entertainment device instead. Blame the Wii and Don Mattrick for this.

COME BACK PETER MOORE !!!
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We want more of Moore. Dab nabit.
 
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Yossarian said:
I would say momentum. For a start they are both launching in a similar time frame, people will compare the two and one will be declared the best by the end of November. The one that is perceived as best will pick up momentum, as more people buy it, other people will buy it because it's the most popular. That momentum builds and builds until the masses, who like a game every now and then but don't really know anything about consoles, just know a is best and b is not and purchase accordingly. You could get to a critical mass where success just leads to more success and for the competitor failure.

MS could have wiped out Playstation this upcoming gen, but saw the success of the casual friendly Wii and lost focus half way through last gen on what made Xbox such a great gaming brand. The loss of focus is what is costing them dear now, they've gimped the X1 from a gaming point of view to make a entertainment device instead. I already have more than enough devices that do this, with better functionality and no XBL subscription. Blame the Wii and Don Mattrick for this.

COME BACK PETER MOORE !!!
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If that were the case, then PS3 should have failed miserably, but it did not. On the flip side, the RROD should have finished off the 360, but that didn't even come close to happening either.

Market forces are not so cut and dry, and are always subject to change. For instance, my personal opinion is that MS's marketing machine and the ability to get more units to retail, is going to put them in the lead by the end of the holidays. Only time will tell for sure, but you can quote me on that right there.
 
Dno69 said:
I think the X1 is in better position than the PS3 since it does more. I was kind of disappointed by the price point though.

It will be interesting to see how it sells compared to the PS4 in the next year or so.
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Not really...when the PS3 launched Blu-Ray players with BD live were over a $1000 and everybody wanted one.
Blu-Ray is much more successful then kinect/and talking to a console.
Plus Sony had a much bigger name thx 2 the PS2's success.
 
VaLLiancE said:
Not really...when the PS3 launched Blu-Ray players with BD live were over a $1000 and everybody wanted one.
Blu-Ray is much more successful then kinect/and talking to a console.
Plus Sony had a much bigger name thx 2 the PS2's success.
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Let me clarify. I meant in terms of reducing costs.

Sony did a hell of a job bringing the PS3 price down, but it probably really hurt them a lot. But it had to be done.
 
Dno69 said:
Let me clarify. I meant in terms of reducing costs.

Sony did a hell of a job bringing the PS3 price down, but it probably really hurt them a lot. But it had to be done.
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But BR in the process QUICKLY killed HDDVD and BR's and BD players are sold everywhere.
So that was a success for Sony.
 
Its preference, and status symbol. Same as why some people only wear nikes, over Reebok. For me it started with it being a American console( loved the Dreamcast who knows what would have happened if the Dreamcast would of survived)
It could be something as the color blue vs green for others.
 
Sheep Shagger said:
If that were the case, then PS3 should have failed miserably
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Not really, the PS2 was the undisputed champion with 160 million world wide sales as opposed to Xbox's 25 million. PS had a massive advantage over Xbox going into this gen, a big 135million person cushion.

It's a level playing ground this time. There isn't an install base 6.5 times bigger on either console this time around to cushion against bad policy decisions. The 160m PS2 install base saved Sony last gen, MS have sold less X360's than Sony have PS3's this gen, they don't have a cushion.
 
Sheep Shagger said:
A good point, and I don't disagree, but why does everyone on the internet think that a winner is actually going to be declared for the entire generation in the 1st few weeks/months???

Did everyone speak with such over zealous doom and gloom at the launch of the PS3? I honestly don't remember, which makes me pretty sure it's a "No". It launched A full year later than the 360, and for a good $100 more. Why do things seem so different now?
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Good point, but your first paragraph should be reworded to ask emotional gamers their opinion; as follows:

A good point, and I don't disagree, but why do so many hyper sensitive emotional gamers on the internet think that a winner is actually going to be declared for the entire generation before the systems even launch???
 
Intellivision said:
....emotional gamers....

.... hyper sensitive emotional gamers...
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Read this, you'll love it. You may even learn something about yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

"Psychological projection was conceptualized by Sigmund Freud in the 1890s as a defense mechanism in which a person unconsciously rejects his or her own unacceptable attributes by ascribing them to objects or persons in the outside world."
 
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