Ubisoft GDC Presentation of PS4 & X1 GPU & CPU Performance, a tit for tat exploration

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Im really starting to hate everything to do with games and the people who play them. These inane threads where you people just argue constantly about trivial meaningless s*** is infuriating.

A smart person would just stop coming into technical comparison threads. Gluttons for punishment would continue coming into them and then complaining about them. :p
 
Both of my threads were farces, you twit.

Read them. They're a joke. They're satire. None of the comparison threads are of any value. The cross play games are the same on both consoles, and the experiences the same - just like last Gen.

Shouldn't mods try to stay on topic, and set a good example, rather than insult forum posters (ignorantly, I might add), and veer widely off topic?

Teehee @ the bold.
 
? Marks trouble you??

And again when the PS4 has exclusives I want I'll buy one. Not going to get multiple consoles just so I can try and hide being a fan of one more than the other like some ;)
Amen.


This guy....
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The PS4 is the pinnacle of console gaming. It's easily the most powerful gaming machine we've ever seen. You just can't compete with Sony.
 
You mean the lead in which I never hurled an insult at you? Teehee.

Or alternatively, you have Flynn in the COD thread going on and on with a bunch of hyperbole about how dips to 55 from 60 is just unacceptable and utterly ruins the game (Unfortunately he chose not to comment once DF released MP performance information for some reason). But in the AC:U, regular drops to mid and low 20s is toooootally fine and people are just whining.
Like...okaaay.

Insult
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How is that not insulting? Are you completely daft?

Besides, as I mentioned before, both of my comparison threads were utter jokes by design. The hypocrisy & hyperbole were intentional, and satirical. I was poking fun at all of the jokers who act like the insignificant cross-plat differences this gen matter in any meaningful way.

Tee-hee
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I swear, you just seem to attack the poster instead of the actual article in question when it's me.
Posting a month old article to big up the PS4 says so much about you.

and i actually posted this because this was a very informative read to me. It's not all about the console war, folks. Did you guys even read the article?
I read the article back in October when it was news worthy. Your posting habits say different as to why you posted it. As I say above... grow up.
 
How is that not insulting? Are you completely daft?

Besides, as I mentioned before, both of my comparison threads were utter jokes by design. The hypocrisy & hyperbole were intentional, and satirical. I was poking fun at all of the jokers who act like the insignificant cross-plat differences this gen matter in any meaningful way.

Tee-hee
:cool:

If that's going to be your barometer for what's an insult then you should really stop complaining about insults in general because vast majority of your posts are filled with them. ;)

Also, going by this. You can no longer cry persecution about Plainview banning you from the PS section. He was just tired of you insulting everyone then getting mad when they pushed back. Better to ban the instigator from the premises than the entire town.
 

I haven't read it yet. I just saw the article recently. Why didn't you share it with us?! :ymeh:
 
If that's going to be your barometer for what's an insult then you should really stop complaining about insults in general because vast majority of your posts are filled with them. ;)

Also, going by this. You can no longer cry persecution about Plainview banning you from the PS section. He was just tired of you insulting everyone then getting mad when they pushed back. Better to ban the instigator from the premises than the entire town.

It's not my definition, but it is *the* definition. I don't know why you can't just admit you insulted me. It's easy.

As for the red herring about being banned, meh. But as a mod, I'd imagine you'd want to set a good example... But you're not.

You're just another sorry forum poster who bags on people he doesn't like. If you want a more civil, respectful, and productive forum - the leadership drives it - but all you're driving is that which you fault... Hypocrite.
 
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It's not my definition, but it is *the* definition. I don't know why you can't just admit you insulted me. It's easy.

As for the red herring about being banned, meh. But as a mod, I'd imagine you'd want to set a good example... But you're not.

You're just another sorry forum poster who bags on people he doesn't like. If you want a more civil, respectful, and productive forum - the leadership drives it - but all you're driving is that which you fault... Hypocrite.

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Where and when? I haven't seen it.

Hell, I can't remember. But I definitely remember all the little ladies dancing, and talk about GPU/CPU medthod stuff by UbiSOft. I have no desire to look for it though. I could have sworn it was posted by you, but I don't remember.
 
Hell, I can't remember. But I definitely remember all the little ladies dancing, and talk about GPU/CPU medthod stuff by UbiSOft. I have no desire to look for it though. I could have sworn it was posted by you, but I don't remember.
http://unionvgf.com/index.php?threa...ps-on-xbox1-and-ps4.10139/page-13#post-257209

which led to here:

http://www.worldsfactory.net/2014/10/15/ps4-gpgpu-doubles-xb1-gpgpu-ubisoft-test

Which is the same article on a different website with the same graphs.
 
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The proof is in the pudding. @%#! the specs... though I do find it interesting that MS is still withholding details.

Lets see, we have multi-plat games getting 1080 pairity now, same or better frame rates on Xbox, LoD actually HIGHER in some cases on XBO, and so on.

Then there's the exclusives which um, both DC and LBP3 are not even in the same league as FH2, SSOD, or MMC. Not to mention nothing has touched Ryse yet.

So tell me, why should I give a crap about specs again?

Did MS hire monkeys to design the console? No, they hired the best minds in their field. Just look at their resumes. I love seeing fanboys think they know better than these people. It really shows how completely out of touch with reality some people are.
 
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Well the 'best mind' of the field did not know that having a huge price premium, having kinect & lower spec will affect sales & result in games of lower spec compare to competition, while your 'average' gamers have known these & called for them to act.

'Best mind' MS is now about 1/2 the sales of PS4. So much for 'best mind'.

So who are actually out of touch with reality?

Maybe MS should hire more 'average' people instead.

Anyway, as a senior developer, I can tell you its not just about how 'smart' the people are. Its about what you are given to work with, & also relative to the competition. You can give F1 world champion Vettel a golf 1.2, & he will not beat a another pro (that's isn't as good) driving a Golf GTi. MS hire top people, but Sony didn't hire idiots also.

Argentina did not lose to Germany in world cup final because they are not good, its just that Germany is better. More people bought PS4 over X1 not because X1 was bad, its just that most think Sony PS4 was better.

Its just combination of poor decisions & perhaps some arrogants & misleaded market studies by MS, plus Sony good decisions & effort that is the result of the hardware disparity & massive gulf in sales we have today.
 
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The proof is in the pudding. @%#! the specs... though I do find it interesting that MS is still withholding details.

Lets see, we have multi-plat games getting 1080 pairity now, same or better frame rates on Xbox, LoD actually HIGHER in some cases on XBO, and so on.

Then there's the exclusives which um, both DC and LBP3 are not even in the same league as FH2, SSOD, or MMC. Not to mention nothing has touched Ryse yet.

So tell me, why should I give a crap about specs again?

Did MS hire monkeys to design the console? No, they hired the best minds in their field. Just look at their resumes. I love seeing fanboys think they know better than these people. It really shows how completely out of touch with reality some people are.

A handful of a game doesn't make a trend, you can call this when the majority of games are getting parity and not 2 or 3.
 
The proof is in the pudding. @%#! the specs... though I do find it interesting that MS is still withholding details.

Lets see, we have multi-plat games getting 1080 pairity now, same or better frame rates on Xbox, LoD actually HIGHER in some cases on XBO, and so on.

Then there's the exclusives which um, both DC and LBP3 are not even in the same league as FH2, SSOD, or MMC. Not to mention nothing has touched Ryse yet.

So tell me, why should I give a crap about specs again?

Did MS hire monkeys to design the console? No, they hired the best minds in their field. Just look at their resumes. I love seeing fanboys think they know better than these people. It really shows how completely out of touch with reality some people are.
Oh boy, more downplaying, ignorance, special sauce, cherry picking AC Unity, and WE INVENTED DIRECTX!! nonsense.

One badly coded, unfinished game with Xbox as the lead platform (to the detriment of PC and PS4) and all the special sauce starts leaking out of the storage cabinets.

Driveclub is running on stronger hardware, it's pushing more GPU TF. LBP3 isn't supposed to be a technical showcase, that's ridiculous.

Meanwhile in the real world...

Performance Optimizations Currently Being Tested

11/18/2014 12:01 PM

We’ve received a lot of feedback on the performance of ACU over the past week and we’re taking it very seriously. Ensuring that you get the best gaming experience is part of the reason we make games in the first place, so hearing that the game isn’t performing as expected for some of you is cause for serious concern. We know this is a very important issue to you and we want to see it resolved as much as you do.

We’ve been investigating this since launch, because this type of issue requires a great deal of attention and care in both finding the root causes and resolving them. It’s taken us some time to make progress on this front, but we’ve got some promising findings to share.

We can tell you that we have detected a distinct discrepancy between what we observed in the pre-launch versus post-launch environment. In spite of our testing, it looks like the instruction queue is becoming overloaded and impacting performance. We have several fixes we are exploring right now and will continue to update you with our progress of what is working and how quickly we can implement these fixes in the game in the weeks ahead.

Meanwhile, we are looking at the following revisions that should improve framerate stability for all players:

Streamlining some technical aspects of navigation: We’ve fixed a number of edge cases with our detection system to smooth certain behaviors during parkour. We’ve fixed a few objects which were improperly tagged to smooth navigation.
Improving task scheduling: We’ve tuned the way the computing tasks are prioritized and parallelized by the processor cores to improve framerate in certain edge cases.
Tweaking performance for Reach High Points: We’ve optimized the reach high points, during the camera swooping sequence to improve framerate a little bit.

Though crowd size was something we looked at extensively pre-launch, it is something we continue to keep a close eye on. We have just finished a new round of tests on crowd size but have found it is not linked to this problem and does not improve frame rate, so we will be leaving crowds as they are.

We’re working very hard to see these changes rolled out in Patch 3, but as we’re still testing our fixes we need to be conservative with any estimates as far as ETA is concerned. We hope to have further updates on this topic before the end of the week.

Please continue to share your thoughts and feedback in the comments below and in the forums, and make sure you’re submitting your problems to our support site!

-The Live Updates Team
 
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When we have versions of games on PS4 60fps vs 30fps Xbox One and 1080p PS4 vs 720p/900p Xbox One its throws away all of the inches the Xbox One has gained.
 
The proof is in the pudding. @%#! the specs... though I do find it interesting that MS is still withholding details.

Lets see, we have multi-plat games getting 1080 pairity now, same or better frame rates on Xbox, LoD actually HIGHER in some cases on XBO, and so on.

Then there's the exclusives which um, both DC and LBP3 are not even in the same league as FH2, SSOD, or MMC. Not to mention nothing has touched Ryse yet.

So tell me, why should I give a crap about specs again?

Did MS hire monkeys to design the console? No, they hired the best minds in their field. Just look at their resumes. I love seeing fanboys think they know better than these people. It really shows how completely out of touch with reality some people are.

lol, Gordo. Jumping the gun, are we? Let's wait for GTA's face-off before we conclude anything although I don't expect a huge amount of difference. DF's the only site I really trust in making those sorts of analysis.

Although I do agree, X1 has more exclusives out atm but Sony's always taken time to release their quality exclusives. It just seems silly that you're calling others a fanboy when you're acting like a hardcore MS defender right now.
 
lol, Gordo. Jumping the gun, are we? Let's wait for GTA's face-off before we conclude anything although I don't expect a huge amount of difference. DF's the only site I really trust in making those sorts of analysis.

Although I do agree, X1 has more exclusives out atm but Sony's always taken time to release their quality exclusives. It just seems silly that you're calling others a fanboy when you're acting like a hardcore MS defender right now.
Call it what you want. The proof is that the games are looking more on par. Tools have gotten better for devs. The system is even doing so while still running the UI in the background.

The fact is, it isn't a PC. Neither are. Judging CPU/GPU is not the complete system. Tell me what the move engines, audio block, and other custom parts do. Esram... I think it's pretty clear all of these are designed to work as a whole.
 
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When we have versions of games on PS4 60fps vs 30fps Xbox One and 1080p PS4 vs 720p/900p Xbox One its throws away all of the inches the Xbox One has gained.
Right, but Destiny, GTA5, ACU show that this is going away, no? Maybe they are just flukes
 
A handful of a game doesn't make a trend, you can call this when the majority of games are getting parity and not 2 or 3.
It is that the recent games that are the ones with pairity. Better dev tools DX 11.3, etc. I'd say that is a trend to me... especially as the newer games are more demanding
 
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