Watch Dogs - May 27th 2014

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Really? Killzone 800x1080 is not 1080p ohh sorry forgot about knack and 99% of games being phone games.
And your lil fanmade article even goes as far as stating COD AW resolution when it hasn't even been mentioned for ps4.

KZ's whole SP is 1080p native, only the MP is 800x1080.

Nice to see you divert your attention to future titles instead of what we were discussing and that is games in the present. My point still stands, can you refute it or not rather than going on tangents.

When does the 800p 30fps The Order come out?


Yeah, KZ mp is sub 1080p and frame rate is null and void.

It's not 800p. You look plain silly calling it that. The resolution is 1920x800 which is 1,536,000 pixels. 800p is ~1422x800 = 1,137,600 pixels. Get your facts straight.

It's supposed to come out around Fall 2014.
 
It's not 800p. You look plain silly calling it that. The resolution is 1920x800 which is 1,536,000 pixels. 800p is ~1422x800 = 1,137,600 pixels. Get your facts straight.
Lol, he knows that. He's just trying to get under peoples skin.
 
KZ's whole SP is 1080p native, only the MP is 800x1080.

Nice to see you divert your attention to future titles instead of what we were discussing and that is games in the present. My point still stands, can you refute it or not rather than going on tangents.



It's not 800p. You look plain silly calling it that. The resolution is 1920x800 which is 1,536,000 pixels. 800p is ~1422x800 = 1,137,600 pixels. Get your facts straight.

It's supposed to come out around Fall 2014.
But it is 800p. How many pixels tall is the game? 800p (800 pixels). They are taking a 1080p, putting black bars on it ("for artistic reasons")and only displaying 800p high worth of content. But you already knew this. Talk about silly. Way short of 2,736,000 pixels...or...sub-HD as Obscene Jester would say :)

Short cuts....sub 1080p and 30fps to get the game to perform properly. Just pointing out the facts.
 
But it is 800p. How many pixels tall is the game? 800p (800 pixels). They are taking a 1080p, putting black bars on it ("for artistic reasons")and only displaying 800p high worth of content. But you already knew this. Talk about silly. Way short of 2,736,000 pixels...or...sub-HD as Obscene Jester would say :)

Short cuts....sub 1080p and 30fps to get the game to perform properly. Just pointing out the facts.

It's not. They are taking 1080p and putting black bars on top and bottom but still keeping the same aspect ratio of 1.78 but just cutting out a bit of the top and bottom portions. So 1920x1080 and cutting a bit from the vertical pixels = 1920x800. It is an irregular resolution rendering, but it's not 800p because it renders more pixels than 800p.

800p would be keeping the same aspect ratio 1.78 which is 1422x800. Don't confuse the terms.
 
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You stated 800p is the same as 1920x800 rendering when in reality, it's not.
Wrong. I never said 800p is 1920x800. The game is 800p high, is 30fps and is again sub 1080p.
 
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Wrong. I never said 800p is 1920x800. The game is 800p high, is 30fps and is again sub 1080p.

You can say it is rendering at 800p worth of content vertically but need to additionally point out the horizontal portion of 1080p (which is rendering at 1920 horizontally) in order to avoid causing any misunderstandings. Calling it 800p solely is misleading and factually incorrect.
 
But it is 800p. How many pixels tall is the game? 800p (800 pixels). They are taking a 1080p, putting black bars on it ("for artistic reasons")and only displaying 800p high worth of content. But you already knew this. Talk about silly. Way short of 2,736,000 pixels...or...sub-HD as Obscene Jester would say :)

Short cuts....sub 1080p and 30fps to get the game to perform properly. Just pointing out the facts.

So by your definition every widescreen letter boxed 1080P movie on Bluray/Netflix/etc is really not 1080P. So every technology company, movie studio and all of Silicon Valley has been lying to us this whole time. Call Anderson Cooper to investigate, this sounds like a scandal!
 
You can say it is rendering at 800p worth of content vertically

Great, than we can agree to agree. The game is displaying 800p vertical, they have removed the remaining 280p vertical for black bars, which eliminates the assets which assists with the rendering of the game, and is at 30fps and is sub 1080p.
 
So by your definition every widescreen letter boxed 1080P movie on Bluray/Netflix/etc is really not 1080P. So every technology company, movie studio and all of Silicon Valley has been lying to us this whole time. Call Anderson Cooper to investigate, this sounds like a scandal!

Now you know why it doesn't fit on our 1080p TV's (black bars in shown)...there is only 800p in height. It's like being in the AV forums here sometimes...so much stuff to educate people on.
 
Great, than we can agree to agree. The game is displaying 800p vertical, they have removed the remaining 280p vertical for black bars, which eliminates the assets which assists with the rendering of the game, and is at 30fps and is sub 1080p.

No, you are only partially correct. You are still wrong in saying the game is 800p.
 
The order which is 1920 * 800 (1536000 pixels) vs your standard 1600 * 900 (1440000 pixels).

So you know 10% higher then 900P.
Yeah it's more like 6% and is that ok now since it's not xbox release? They try calling it 1080p, but 1080p is 35% higher.
 
No, you are only partially correct. You are still wrong in saying the game is 800p.
Whatever trips your trigger man. We are just going in circles. I guess it's time to get this back to Watchdogs.....

I hope this game has a great multiplayer.
 
Whatever trips your trigger man. We are just going in circles. I guess it's time to get this back to Watchdogs.....

I hope this game has a great multiplayer.
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KZ's whole SP is 1080p native, only the MP is 800x1080.

Nice to see you divert your attention to future titles instead of what we were discussing and that is games in the present. My point still stands, can you refute it or not rather than going on tangents.

Q: Is SHADOW FALL running 1080p natively?

In both SP and MP, KILLZONE SHADOW FALL outputs a full, unscaled 1080p image at up to 60 FPS. Native is often used to indicate images that are not scaled; it is native by that definition.

Actual resolution is 960x1080

http://www.killzone.com/en_US/blog/news/2014-03-06_regarding-killzone-shadow-fall-and-1080p.html
 
You stated 800p is the same as 1920x800 rendering when in reality, it's not.
It actually is 800p just stands as 800 progressive lines which is what it has, only people assume 16:9 aspect which in 800p it would be about 1414x800
 
Whatever trips your trigger man. We are just going in circles. I guess it's time to get this back to Watchdogs.....

I hope this game has a great multiplayer.

I'm only correcting your misleading statements. Carry on. ;)

Q: Is SHADOW FALL running 1080p natively?

In both SP and MP, KILLZONE SHADOW FALL outputs a full, unscaled 1080p image at up to 60 FPS. Native is often used to indicate images that are not scaled; it is native by that definition.

Actual resolution is 960x1080

http://www.killzone.com/en_US/blog/news/2014-03-06_regarding-killzone-shadow-fall-and-1080p.html

And? We all know SP is 1080/60 native, and you showed MP is 960x1080. It's still 1080p/60 in SP so your point is?

It actually is 800p just stands as 800 progressive lines which is what it has, only people assume 16:9 aspect which in 800p it would be about 1414x800

Yes 800p in vertical rendering but rendering horizontally in 1080p which is not the same as just saying it is 800p, which is 1422x800 ish. So you agree with me.
 
So by your definition every widescreen letter boxed 1080P movie on Bluray/Netflix/etc is really not 1080P. So every technology company, movie studio and all of Silicon Valley has been lying to us this whole time. Call Anderson Cooper to investigate, this sounds like a scandal!
It actually is not, 1080p stands for 1080 progressive lines anything that is not 1080 lines is not and is lying to customers.
 
I'm only correcting your misleading statements. Carry on. ;)



And? We all know SP is 1080/60 native, and you showed MP is 960x1080. It's still 1080p/60 in SP so your point is?



Yes 800p in vertical rendering but rendering horizontally in 1080p which is not the same as just saying it is 800p, which is 1422x800 ish. So you agree with me.
Are you fricking blind? You don't see UPSCALED IN BOTH MP N SP part? I didn't write that myself that's your own KZ support page saying both are upscaled

No, what you are saying is that the game is 800px1080p which it is not.
When something says 1080p it just means that it has 1080 HORIZONTAL lines and they are displayed progressively instead of interlaced.

1080p has nothing to do with aspect ratio, but saying 1080p at 16:9 aspect is same as saying 1080px1920

The order is 800p at 2.40:1 aspect!
 
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It actually is not, 1080p stands for 1080 progressive lines anything that is not 1080 lines is not and is lying to customers.

Both Sony, GG mislead the customers about the MP portion which isn't right, I agree. But what does that have to do with KZ still being native 1080p in the SP portion? So again... my point still stands, the only game out right now that is sub-full HD is BF4 with Watch Dogs as the second game to come out as 900p.
 
Are you fricking blind? You don't see UPSCALED IN BOTH MP N SP part? I didn't write that myself that's your own KZ support page saying both are upscaled

You're the one that's blind. Did you miss this:

In Multiplayer mode, however, we use a technique called “temporal reprojection". They state nothing of the sort in the SP campaign.

Again, I'm saying KZ's SP is 1080p native, the MP portion is using the 960x1080 method, clear?
 
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