EA Access: Sony's response, is it the future of gaming and does it affect gamers?

You say "$6 off" as if it's one and done. $6 off multiple amounts of content & games adds up pretty easily. Also, if a person wants a game early (and uses early access) he/she would have more than likely spent $60 for the game anyway (but in retail).



Not in detail. All I know is that the EA Sports games (and NBA 2K14) sold very well on both consoles -- well, all except for NBA Live 14.
A DD game for $58 isn't a deal(they charge tax) $50 is a better/more reasonable deal.
Most likely better sales with the PS4 versions and as the sales gap widens I doubt the EA deal will change things.
 
A DD game for $58 isn't a deal(they charge tax) $50 is a better/more reasonable deal.
Most likely better sales with the PS4 versions and as the sales gap widens I doubt the EA deal will change things.
How is paying $65 better than paying $58 for a title at release? Sure $50 is a better deal, hell $1 is an even better deal than $50, why not make the ultimate deal since we are using mythical game prices.
 
I played the FIFA 14 demo for over 50 hours. I played the PES 14 demo for over 30 hours. :)

Playing a demo just to enjoy it is one thing, playing it to "practice" so you can be better than other players seems a bit silly when the majority of the game is the same as the previous years release.
 
Nothing wrong with a laid back calm style but all of his videos reek of Xbox Fanboy.

Yeah I don't mind a calm presence on camera either, actually I like it better than the fake "characters" that generally pop up on youtube.
 
Nothing wrong with a laid back calm style but all of his videos reek of Xbox Fanboy.
I mind it. I mind it a lot. Laid back and calm is cool out in public. But when you're broadcasting yourself to people on the internet and desire a growing fanbase, that s*** doesnt work. Especially on camera. Think of all the successful broadcasters on Youtube, and see how many of them are "calm and laid back". You wont find one. On camera, that s*** is dull unless its one of those," if your seeing this, I'm already dead", kind of videos.
 
Playing a demo just to enjoy it is one thing, playing it to "practice" so you can be better than other players seems a bit silly when the majority of the game is the same as the previous years release.

I can not speak for other EA sports games, but FIFA actually changes a fair bit from year to year. New gameplay additions, new A.I Tweaks, new shooting mechanics...etc. Took me a while to get use to the new defending that came in the 2013(?) edition. Took me a while to truly be effective with the new ball shielding in FIFA 14.

Now, keep in mind I am just an average FIFA player, I play pretty much just because I enjoy it. Now imagine the more competitive folk. The folk who only play online and want that top spot in the top league. The E-sport players. The community league participants. I think you are seriously underestimating the competitive nature of online gaming
 
How is paying $65 better than paying $58 for a title at release? Sure $50 is a better deal, hell $1 is an even better deal than $50, why not make the ultimate deal since we are using mythical game prices.
I rarely as in almost like never pay $64 for a DD game.
What will make me go DD is a much lower price.
 
Someone above made a good point on how they'd save alot of money if they did spend with FIFA Ultimate Team DLC.. :)
For those people spending alot of money on stuff like that - this program would definately be a sweet deal.

I did bring up the point of Tiger Woods campaign DLC in Tiger Woods 13 - back then people who played the campaign were greeted with a pop up asking them to pay afor additional courses wich were part of the the actual PGA Tour - otherwise it would be simulated.
Effectively doubling the price og the game..
What if more stuff like this happened in FIFA? - you can't play the next 5 matches in your current season of the premier leage, your next matches against Everton, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea, you need to download the stadiums - unless you download the stadium-packs, those matches will be simulated. :-/
It sounds idiotic, but it's basically the same scheme they had on Tiger Woods.. :-/
Hopefully not as horrible as something like that, but I do think we'll see a push towards forcing people to buy more DLC, not just extra multiplayer-stuff...

As long as stuff like above don't happen, I do think this might be a good deal for the biggest EA customers..

But I don't like the fact that they sid 'exclusive 10% off' for EA Access members..
Does this means that digital purchases will never be 10% off for non EA Access members?
i.e. you do have to pay for the right to get money off titles - before getting a discount on EA digital games.. If so this will lead to people choosing competitors products instead.. i.e. If a normal (non EA-acess member) Xbox One store-consumer, comeis in a month after release- and then see Battlefield at 60$ or 54$ with EA acess, and they also see CoD wich at this time is at 54$ with 10% off..
I think alot of those people will choose CoD, or Battlefield for 60$, and then pay . :-/
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Someone above made a good point on how they'd save alot of money if they did spend with FIFA Ultimate Team DLC.. :)
For those people spending alot of money on stuff like that - this program would definately be a sweet deal.

I did bring up the point of Tiger Woods campaign DLC in Tiger Woods 13 - back then people who played the campaign were greeted with a pop up asking them to pay afor additional courses wich were part of the the actual PGA Tour - otherwise it would be simulated.
Effectively doubling the price og the game..
What if more stuff like this happened in FIFA? - you can't play the next 5 matches in your current season of the premier leage, your next matches against Everton, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea, you need to download the stadiums - unless you download the stadium-packs, those matches will be simulated. :-/
It sounds idiotic, but it's basically the same scheme they had on Tiger Woods.. :-/
Hopefully not as horrible as something like that, but I do think we'll see a push towards forcing people to buy more DLC, not just extra multiplayer-stuff...

As long as stuff like above don't happen, I do think this might be a good deal for the biggest EA customers..

But I don't like the fact that they sid 'exclusive 10% off' for EA Access members..
Does this means that digital purchases will never be 10% off for non EA Access members?
i.e. you do have to pay for the right to get money off titles - before getting a discount on EA digital games.. If so this will lead to people choosing competitors products instead.. i.e. If a normal (non EA-acess member) Xbox One store-consumer, comeis in a month after release- and then see Battlefield at 60$ or 54$ with EA acess, and they also see CoD wich at this time is at 54$ with 10% off..
I think alot of those people will choose CoD, or Battlefield for 60$, and then pay . :-/
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I hope to god that does not happen. However, EA access or not that could happen. Happened with TW without EA access.
As for the 10% off...I am sure none EA access folk will still get reduced prices, but EA access members get them day one. We have to remember that EA are still a business, and that means staying competitive, dropping prices when sales start to slow..etc.
 
People need to give it a chance before predicting doom and gloom and so on.

Yes they tried it with TW and what happened to that series?
 
People need to give it a chance before predicting doom and gloom and so on.

I'm not trying to spread FUD. I just voice a few concerns, of what I think we need to support - or not.

I did mention earlier how I think this might end up as a much better service, than how it currently looks.
If they could get a more cross-platform focus - on the service.
i.e. if they allowed people who were EA Access members, and bought one game on for example Xbox One - to also be able to get the PC version of the same game - at a huge discount on Origin, or free like Sony's Cross-platform buy stuff. :)
Then I think this thing would become alot more interesting at once - and it would give basically all games with various mod-features a huge amount of extra value for us gamers. :)

Yes they tried it with TW and what happened to that series?

Despite TW having lot's of troubles lately, the game's franchise had a solid reputation wich were basically ruined amongst most gamers who bought and experienced that. The game afterwards however - TW'14 were pretty good tough, I hear - next year they're dropping Tiger Woods in the name and just go with PGA Tour. :)
 
One point that can't be overlooked is the new wrinkle EA Access adds for multi console owners . Common question is "What console are you getting Madden/Fifa/Etc on?". For some the decision is based on friends, some the controller they prefer, and some the graphics/gameplay are the tipping points. I was actually strongly considering FIFA15 for PS4 because the last one looked and played better than the X1 version...but now with EA Access and the savings that is likely enough to push me back to X1. I could see this new bullet point bringing a shift for tens of thousands of gamers facing a similar quandry.
 
Activision will join suit if this proves successful

Activision Won't Launch An EA Access-Style Program Anytime Soon

Don't expect Call of Duty and Skylanders company Activision Publishing to launch its own version of thesubscription-based EA Access program anytime soon, management for the company said today. Responding to a question during a post-earnings financial call today about whether or not the company might launch such an initiative, Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg outlined his company's plans.

"As you know, we have a very focused strategy as a company, and we tend to focus our resources and our people on the biggest and best creative and commercial opportunities," Hirshberg said. "And right now, I think we have our strongest slate ever and we're broadening that slate, so we have a lot to focus on and a lot to make sure we get right in the coming months to keep our tentpole franchises driving and establishing new ones as well. And we think everything we're working on has huge potential."

Activision Publishing's tentpole franchises are Call of Duty and Skylanders, with Destiny situated as the company's next major franchise. The company expects the Bungie-developed game to join those two as the company's third billion-dollar series.

Hirshberg made it clear that Activision is constantly examining the current business landscape for ways to better serve players (and shareholders), but he said the company--at least for now--will instead focus on its mantra of doing a few things and doing those things well.

"So of course we're always looking at new opportunities to better serve our players and our communities; and we're always evaluating new business models," Hirshberg said. "And once those models are proven, we'll pursue them if we think it makes sense for our players and for our business. But right now we're continuing to focus on the things we discussed on our call, which include a wide range of business and monetization models, all of which will deliver we think the best experience for our fans and a great return for our shareholders."
 
I'm not trying to spread FUD. I just voice a few concerns, of what I think we need to support - or not.

I did mention earlier how I think this might end up as a much better service, than how it currently looks.
If they could get a more cross-platform focus - on the service.
i.e. if they allowed people who were EA Access members, and bought one game on for example Xbox One - to also be able to get the PC version of the same game - at a huge discount on Origin, or free like Sony's Cross-platform buy stuff. :)
Then I think this thing would become alot more interesting at once - and it would give basically all games with various mod-features a huge amount of extra value for us gamers. :)



Despite TW having lot's of troubles lately, the game's franchise had a solid reputation wich were basically ruined amongst most gamers who bought and experienced that. The game afterwards however - TW'14 were pretty good tough, I hear - next year they're dropping Tiger Woods in the name and just go with PGA Tour. :)

Yeah, Cross-platform is pretty big. If a game is out on the PS3/4/Vita, you're essentially saving a huge amount of money just by purchasing on one platform. That's why PS+ is still so popular. Some of their free offerings are cross-platform so you get to play them on any of the platforms you own.

EA Access cross-platforming with the PC would be interesting and pretty appealing actually. They should consider this option.

On a side note, for those saying you're getting 10% off day one, this is where the physical deals are better. Those E3 deals, you can pre-order day 1 for 30% off.
 
Activision will join suit if this proves successful

Activision Won't Launch An EA Access-Style Program Anytime Soon


How many big yearly titles do Activision publish? All I can think of is COD. Off hand I would have thought Ubisoft would have had a bigger portfolio of yearly titles.
 
On a side note, for those saying you're getting 10% off day one, this is where the physical deals are better. Those E3 deals, you can pre-order day 1 for 30% off.

You are isolating only one part of EA Access to try to make a point. Sure, buying a new game you may find better deals than 10%. But that is only part of what you are getting with EA Access. Do E3 deals give you access to a vault of games you may not own but would like to try? Do E3 deals give you 10% off resulting DLC? Do E3 deals give you access to new games 5 days early?

So you buy only 2 EA titles this year and save $12 over retail. You buy 4 pieces of DLC and save another $6. You play free games that would have cost $10-30 apiece. How much value do you place on playing a game early? Combined...is it worth $30? Or more? Or less? The vibe I'm getting out there is that it's a resounding "worth more" and is going to result in subscription numbers that should hit the midpoint of six figures.
 
How many big yearly titles do Activision publish? All I can think of is COD. Off hand I would have thought Ubisoft would have had a bigger portfolio of yearly titles.

They likely do, and I would not be shocked to hear them announce a similar service in a few months time.
 
You are isolating only one part of EA Access to try to make a point. Sure, buying a new game you may find better deals than 10%. But that is only part of what you are getting with EA Access. Do E3 deals give you access to a vault of games you may not own but would like to try? Do E3 deals give you 10% off resulting DLC? Do E3 deals give you access to new games 5 days early?

So you buy only 2 EA titles this year and save $12 over retail. You buy 4 pieces of DLC and save another $6. You play free games that would have cost $10-30 apiece. How much value do you place on playing a game early? Combined...is it worth $30? Or more? Or less? The vibe I'm getting out there is that it's a resounding "worth more" and is going to result in subscription numbers that should hit the midpoint of six figures.

Those are some valid perks but are only beneficial to people who actually buy DLC or want to try some new games earlier. Between the option of subscribing or not subscribing based on that, I wouldn't subscribe. But for new console owners, it would be appealing since they won't have any games yet.
 
They likely do, and I would not be shocked to hear them announce a similar service in a few months time.

Outside of war craft and cod, I can't think of anything else big published by them.
 
Outside of war craft and cod, I can't think of anything else big published by them.

Me either to be honest. How ever, their music games used to be uber popular. If they bring them back then who knows. 10% of DLC for a music game would likely save you more than £20 a year. Add in COD DLC and 10% of the actual games too, plus the ability to play some of their less popular games. It is viable...and obviously I assume the pricing and perks would be the same as EA's.
 
lol I knew he'd bring up PS Now even though they aren't even the same services. Whatever helps him feel better about his purchase I suppose.

You say that as if I brought it up randomly. I brought it up because of Sony's PR statement and how ironic it is that they said it was a "bad value". If Sony didn't say anything about EA Access' value, I wouldn't have compared it to PS Now.

And FYI -- I felt pretty good about the service before Sony's statements. Really strange attempt at a dig.
 
Nothing wrong with a laid back calm style but all of his videos reek of Xbox Fanboy.

Funny considering many of my recent reviews/videos were about Nintendo games. Planning a Mario Kart video right now matter of fact.

Think some you guys need to grow up a bit.
 
Funny considering many of my recent reviews/videos were about Nintendo games.

Heh, you guys really need to grow up. Pretty pitiful.
Your favorite games are 3rd party games...PS4 runs them better then XBO...you purchased a XBO instead.
I don't think anymore needs to be said.
 
I mind it. I mind it a lot. Laid back and calm is cool out in public. But when you're broadcasting yourself to people on the internet and desire a growing fanbase, that s*** doesnt work.

I don't really care about growing fanbases. I make videos because I like to.

Think of all the successful broadcasters on Youtube, and see how many of them are "calm and laid back". You wont find one.

Not true. There are a decent amount of them. They don't have the same number of views as the "hyper" people though.

On camera, that s*** is dull unless its one of those," if your seeing this, I'm already dead", kind of videos.

Again, your opinion. People like that I'm "not fake" or put on the cliche "hyper YouTube" personality. As I said before, that just isn't me. My videos would come off unnatural -- especially alongside my preference in presentation (slow transitions instead of fast/jumpy cuts).
 
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