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could sony be ok with selling the ps5 at a loss now that they have a digital variant thus allowing them to collect a large sum when games are all sold thru their store now for it
 


Edit: this was a lot better before McCaffrey deleted his recent tweet about how if it was Xbox getting a timed exclusive, then their fans would be praising it, as they should... or something like that.
 
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Those who preordered, which variant didn’t get?

Digital and despite the narrative some are trying to push my store had more digital units allocated to them than standard models. They should also know that there will be a lot more consoles made available for pre-order before the actual launch, this was just the first day and retailers did this on their own.
 
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Saw some dumbf*** on twitter under Wario64's post about amazon pre-orders going up for PS5 that posted a photo of his order confirmation with his name and address not cropped or blurred out.
dumbf*** on twitter, I think the use of the word dumbf*** is completely unnecessary.


Since being a dumbf*** is the norm on Twitter. Being not are exceptions.
 
Mods we’re gonna need some guidance in the rules. I mean it’s obvious we can’t take Sony’s words as gospel anymore lol.
It makes you wonder what other lies have been told or truths boosted 😂
 
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Nope. But it is just generic list. Why not add Forza 9 and Horizon 5 and Gears 6 to it? We all know they are coming at somepoint.

Dates. Where the dates?

Has Forza 9, Horizon 5 and Gears 6 been announced? Then why would they be on the list? It’s a list of exclusive games MS announced at the events. Ain’t no one saying they’re launch games.
 
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Mods we’re gonna need some guidance in the rules. I mean it’s obvious we can’t take Sony’s words as gospel anymore lol.
It makes you wonder what other lies have been told or truths boosted 😂

Well we know now that there will be cross generational games on both systems. I think that is what we go on now.
 
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Console warz are like novelas. filled with drama, nonsense and some good maybe unintended comedy.


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Yeah I don't see how anyone can defend this. Complete reversal.

Yeah it was silly of them to emphasize that if they were going to be doing cross-gen games, yeah many of the games they've announced aren't cross-gen and I know a lot of people figured Miles Morales would be but still they should have just kept quiet about that. I don't think people would have paid much attention if it was only Miles Morales and Sackboy but Horizon being cross-gen is the one that got a few people raising an eyebrow.
 
Yeah it was silly of them to emphasize that if they were going to be doing cross-gen games, yeah many of the games they've announced aren't cross-gen and I know a lot of people figured Miles Morales would be but still they should have just kept quiet about that. I don't think people would have paid much attention if it was only Miles Morales and Sackboy but Horizon being cross-gen is the one that got a few people raising an eyebrow.

The problem I have with this, is that seemingly overnight nobody is giving Sony grief for this. Microsoft was absolutely getting blasted.
When double standards like this exist in an industry that is supposed to be 'unbiased' it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Sony should have been upfront about this earlier. It just doesn't look good IMHO. The next Horizon being developed for PS4 was a shocker to me as well.
 
Here's the full Tweet from McCaffrey before he deleted it. I'm not saying that people can't change opinions over time, but this is pretty on point, and is probably just the perfect example of how the media has always treated Xbox.

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Sony knows they can’t get away with misrepresenting their next gen vision and receive very little blowback from the games industry press. It’s entirely predictable what most of the excuses from their PR fan club will be. That double standard has existed for 20 years.
 
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The problem I have with this, is that seemingly overnight nobody is giving Sony grief for this. Microsoft was absolutely getting blasted.
When double standards like this exist in an industry that is supposed to be 'unbiased' it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Sony should have been upfront about this earlier. It just doesn't look good IMHO. The next Horizon being developed for PS4 was a shocker to me as well.

It's funny, MS was telling everyone "all of our games are going to be cross-gen for 2 years" Sony on the other hand said "we believe in generations and cross-gen can hold things back" honestly I don't think anyone buying a new console wishes for the new games to be cross-gen, they want them built from the ground up for the new machine, that includes higher detail character models and environments etc.

That being said look at what they've done, MS hasn't really announced many first party games actually coming out in the first 2 years, everything other than Halo seems to just be a CGI trailer right now or an "in engine" trailer like that Rare game that isn't really even a game yet. They both should have just been quiet about it, there are always a few cross-gen games at launch (mostly from 3rd party) and as time goes on that stops happening, for some reason they both decided to make big announcements and neither one did them any favors.

I think most people would have understood that if Horizon is coming out within the first year of the PS5 that it'll be cross-gen, it's a big franchise and you don't want to exclude tens of millions of potential customers, that's why those kinds of games should be saved for later but Sony had to go and talk big in a negative way about cross-gen and now they'll have to deal with the questions they are going to get. It doesn't look like Demon's Souls, Ratchet and Clank and god of war are cross gen but still they should have just kept quiet, nobody forced them to say anything.

They've both tried to be too cute with the lead up to this launch and it's stupid, holding out on announcing prices when most of us knew what they were going to be for a couple of months and we all knew November would be the month they launch because it always is etc. I'm just glad it's all out in the open now and we can focus on when the machines come out and what we get to play on them when they do.
 
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