3000 series from nVidia June?

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Yeah, let the price gouging begin. :laugh:

They are going to have such a huge lead and they are doubling down on Ray Tracing.

It's debatable whether or not the ray tracing, the way it's done on Nvidia cards, will ever be widely adopted. If the console version of ray tracing is implemented too differently compared to Nvidia's version of ray tracing most game developers won't bother with it.

I've also read that RDNA was hurt by having to be 100% backwards compatible with GCN for the consoles.
 
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It looks like they got that 50% increase from benchmarks with ray tracing on. So they are saying that Ray tracing is now viable, but the increase isn't that much in traditional gaming. Also they are talking about "holiday" release, SMH.
Ray-Tracing is already viable. Have you played Control with RT on? It's pretty damn awesome, and I can't wait until it's standard. It eliminates so many of the issues standard rendering has. Especially in shadows, GI, and Reflections.
 

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It's not viable with the current cards as the performance is way to costly.
Well, I mean, I have a current card (it's a little higher end but it's still current) and its handling RT pretty damn well. I'm still running high framerates. Not at 4k, but that's fine. Its higher than 1080p. It'll get more and more optimized too.
 

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No card handles RT well.
2080ti cant run 4K/30/RT Ultra and even that is terrible for PC gaming.

This new card hopefully changes this.
 

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No card handles RT well.
2080ti cant run 4K/30/RT Ultra and even that is terrible for PC gaming.

This new card hopefully changes this.
Hope so. I just went with the 5700XT because it was the first time I was going to splurge somewhat on a video card but I wasn't dropping $900 on one. I just want a solid 4K ultra RT at 60fps, since that's what my monitor supports. 🙄
 

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Hope so. I just went with the 5700XT because it was the first time I was going to splurge somewhat on a video card but I wasn't dropping $900 on one. I just want a solid 4K ultra RT at 60fps, since that's what my monitor supports. 🙄
A new 6000 series card from AMD is supposed to have hardware based RT.
Should be cheaper than whatever nVidia offers.
 

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A new 6000 series card from AMD is supposed to have hardware based RT.
Should be cheaper than whatever nVidia offers.
I was hoping to hear about it at their CES keynote. Their big graphics talking point was a card that's less powerful than one I bought from them already. I love that they'll be competing in the laptop space, don't get me wrong, but spend a few minutes teasing the next high end cards too ffs.
 
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Well, I mean, I have a current card (it's a little higher end but it's still current) and its handling RT pretty damn well. I'm still running high framerates. Not at 4k, but that's fine. Its higher than 1080p. It'll get more and more optimized too.
Yeah, but you play with a RTX 2080 at 1080p. If you had a 4k screen I don't think you would like how it handles RT. Nvidia's looking to greatly increase the number of ray tracing cores in the 3000 series so it's possible that ray tracing will never be viable on those 2000 series cards. The fact that it isn't widely adopted by developers now is very telling.

A new 6000 series card from AMD is supposed to have hardware based RT.
Should be cheaper than whatever nVidia offers.
Lol, this Ray tracing could be like the format wars all over again. I would definitely wait to see who wins out first. It's not guaranteed that AMD will be the winners since Sony seems to be using their own custom ray tracing solution.
 
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Yeah, but you play with a RTX 2080 at 1080p. If you had a 4k screen I don't think you would like how it handles RT. Nvidia's looking to greatly increase the number of ray tracing cores in the 3000 series so it's possible that ray tracing will never be viable on those 2000 series cards. The fact that it isn't widely adopted by developers now is very telling.



Lol, this Ray tracing could be like the format wars all over again. I would definitely wait to see who wins out first. It's not guaranteed that AMD will be the winners since Sony seems to be using their own custom ray tracing solution.
No, RT is expensive, and I do not expect it at 4k. Resolution isn't everything, and 1440p still looks great. RT is the future, and even some level of implementation is an improvement. Even if it's just GI and color bounce.
 
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As I suspected AMD won't be using any tensor cores for their ray tracing solution. How is it that Microsoft is able to implement ray tracing for Gears Of War 5 in just two weeks for AMD hardware, but they didn't do it in all this time for RTX?
 

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As I suspected AMD won't be using any tensor cores for their ray tracing solution. How is it that Microsoft is able to implement ray tracing for Gears Of War 5 in just two weeks for AMD hardware, but they didn't do it in all this time for RTX?
Tensor cores are an Nvidia thing, they also aren't used for RT. They have RT cores for that. Tensor cores are for deep learning and AI crap. DLSS uses the Tensor cores.
 
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Looks like the early adopters were right. If DLSS becomes a standard in games similar to TAA or MSAA then the RTX cards are totally future proofed.

 

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Not the current crop of cards.
They will be long in the tooth when the actual next gen cards release.
YES, the current crop of cards. In the video he explains how DLSS 2.0 can upscale games from 1080p to 4k at near perfect fidelity.
 

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Oh I know but they won't have the muscle to do even greater things like I want to do.
Like 4K-6K-8K DLSS.
Being practical, anyone with an RTX 2070 and above will be just fine if DLSS/DirectML becomes a new standard like TAA is this gen. That's your preference if you want to play above 4k, but it wouldn't add anything to the experience for me. You sound dead set on picking up a next gen console anyway.
 

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Being practical, anyone with an RTX 2070 and above will be just fine if DLSS/DirectML becomes a new standard like TAA is this gen. That's your preference if you want to play above 4k, but it wouldn't add anything to the experience for me. You sound dead set on picking up a next gen console anyway.
Bro I want to play in 4K but use DLSS to fake 6K or even 8K!
If possible.
I have downsampled 6K to 4K and my desktop icons looked like actual stickers or magnets on my screen.
Downsampling takes way to much power through.
 

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Bro I want to play in 4K but use DLSS to fake 6K or even 8K!
If possible.
I have downsampled 6K to 4K and my desktop icons looked like actual stickers or magnets on my screen.
Downsampling takes way to much power through.
Wow what an achievement, you downsampled your desktop! What a display of hardware power and renown.