How many of them are next gen only or new ish?
I think there's definitely a disparity between why some devs say they have no problems but some do. And some of these are big name veteran devs too.
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How many of them are next gen only or new ish?
I think there's definitely a disparity between why some devs say they have no problems but some do. And some of these are big name veteran devs too.
Most recently, a MASSIVE AAA game, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. Gears 5 next gen edition. It Takes Two, Dirt 5, Forza Motorsport 7 next gen, Tiny Tina's Wonderland, all the current Legos games, all current F1 racing games, Destroy All Human's Clone Carnage, Halo Infinite off the top of my head. I think all the next gen versions of Borderlands do as well. All big name veterans.How many of them are next gen only or new ish?
I think there's definitely a disparity between why some devs say they have no problems but some do. And some of these are big name veteran devs too.
The co-op is like 80% done and works just fine. Them prioritising MP is not a boon to this foolish idea of the XSS.
You know what wasn't missing? yep, Co-op, lol. Yet another game that managed what these guys are struggling with. There is a pattern forming here, and it doesn't favour the dev.
Just kind of weird how some titles can get it, some can't with split screen coop. And it's not a clear indies vs veteran devs thing either.
Still, there is a significant amount of devs speaking up against the XSS for whatever reason whether that be bias or actual technical difficulties. And that is not something that can be ignored really. Probably a combination of engine not playing well and more difficult to optimize all things considered.
While I agree we can't ignore what a select few devs have said negatively about the Series S, we can't ignore what all the other devs have said that praised the Series S. And, the developer for this game said it's not because the Series S is under powered.
Some the truth is somewhere in the middle, we can agree on that at least ?
Which tells you what? It clearly isn't the hardware when it has been done numerous times. The hardware never changes, so the difference is elsewhere.
Significance isn't a number. Significance is the weight their opinion holds, but when your opinion is derived from little indie game that can run on an X360 and others have done vastly more with the hardware than you have then that opinion holds no weight at all. So, no, I don't see significant anything.
Since all those supposedly significant nay sayers we have seen fantastic titles like Plague Tale:R on the XSS. Looks gorgeous and plays great.
Tells me exactly what devs are saying , like you said the hardware never changes but game engines and game development does. As they continue to evolve, obviously hardware becomes more and more outdated , which is what devs are worried about. They have to keep the XSS hardware in mind when optimizing the Xbox platform. That's an objective fact. Studios are becoming more vocal that this is taking more resources and time than they would like to.
Exactly...and Baldurs Gate 3 is a last gen looking game made only on current gen and using a revamped old engine. lol. With PC specs that an 8 year old PC can run.
Not the hardware, and that is obvious. I mean was it the hardware that stopped Gotham Knights being 60FPS on PS5 and XsX. nope. Yet, that was another last gen looking game with a revamped engine made only for current gen, and its co-op worked fine but couldn't do 60 FPS on any console. See the similarities.
Hell we can do it with Wildhearts too, another game the mongrel twitter base tries to use against the XSS. It is has technical issues across all platforms. So, is that the XSS fault it is 900P @ 30FPS? Obviously not, the obvious answer is this was rushed out the door with poor optimisation.
I can do this all day. The message you are trying to push here is simply flat out wrong.
Yes, as new games come out, the lower spec PC's get higher and higher that's how it usually works. Most gamers would look at recommended specs anyways and not just what one would need to simply run the game because you would want to run it efficiently and not at 10 frames.
It's not though. We all know hardware becomes more and more obsolete every year. Heck, we have GPUs with almost 10x more tflops out now lol.
It's logical that you need to keep lower specs in mind when developing , with PC you can always move that up. With the XSS , you cannot at least until the end of this gen and that's the difference.
I was saying PC because the minimum spec PC for this game is lower than Series S.
Looks at Pc specs....lol. Looks at game....lol. Looks at what other games have done...lol.
Your point is poorly thought out, and doesn't correlate with reality.
Those high end GPUs on PC are never fully realised because they cater to the smalklest section of gamers. and yet, shall we look and see how many games have performance iussues on these $1500 cards, well s*** GPUs using you logic, lol. Guess they are already outdated.
I was saying PC because the minimum spec PC for this game is lower than Series S.
Yes but you don't look at minimum if you want to play the game optimally. Minimum is exactly that: what the game needs to at least run lol.
Look at the recommended, it's more powerful than the XSS and lo and behold, more similar to the XSX and PS5 power level.
Looks at Pc specs....lol. Looks at game....lol. Looks at what other games have done...lol.
Your point is poorly thought out, and doesn't correlate with reality.
Those high end GPUs on PC are never fully realised because they cater to the smalklest section of gamers. and yet, shall we look and see how many games have performance iussues on these $1500 cards, well s*** GPUs using you logic, lol. Guess they are already outdated.
See my point above. You never look at minimum unless you want it to run at low frames. Recommended is more in line with what the PS5/XSX is.
Brute force power is always better to have for more unoptimized games. Otherwise you need to make more compromises which is what we see already in the XSS and new games compared to the premium consoles: no 60fps modes, lower visual settings, lower resolution, lower performance.
Does this mean that the XSS cannot support new games going forward? No but devs will prioritize that they have to unless they want to face the backlash that we are slightly seeing now.
And the key part here is the CO-OP f***ing works between systems below an XSS and on par-ish with XSX. lol. Again, pointing to not a hardware issue.
I suspect it works better on the XSX but having more trouble running well on the XSS but the devs smartly don't want to go out and say this because you know, that would open up a whole other can of worms.
It probably works on the XSS but not at frames they are happy with right now tbh lol
But was perfectly happy with the frames on significantly inferior hardware. Sure!!
Well yeah minimum means you can just run it.
Imagine the backlash if they released XSS version at 15 fps average (not real, hypothetically) lol
Takes two to tango so look in the mirror... Xbox fans would need to actually reciprocate to be a "console warz" thread. Besides these are articles quoting actual devs working on these games. It didn't come from just thin air.
Uh was there a new official threshold requirement out that specifies that minimum requirements will run at certain resolution and 30fps?
If so, I guess they could always keep decreasing the resolution till they hit that 30
It has been that way for as long as I can remember. What use does specs for a non-playable state have, lol. Come on dude!!! I know your argument and points are weak, but really!!!?Uh was there a new official threshold requirement out that specifies that minimum requirements will run at certain resolution and 30fps?
If so, I guess they could always keep decreasing the resolution till they hit that 30
Noone looks at a game and be like oh I have the minimum specs and expect to play it at a reasonable rate lol. I look at the recommended and go from there.
If I have the minimum, I would expect to play at subpar resolution, lowest settings and a big MAYBE on playable fps (20-30 fps)
literally millions of PC gamers do that. The very vast majority of gamers have mid tier to low tier systems.
You couple of Sony Bros left here are the worst. Constant spin and arguing every chance you get to put down XB/MS. Glad Val finally wised up and left, place is so much better without him. Now we have you taking his place…
And they will check requirements to see if they can run the game well enough. Otherwise what's the point in posting them?
If you're just meeting minimum requirements, expect laggy/unsmooth gameplay unless you keep going down in settings and resolution to find a good spot but by that time it would probably be visually unappealing.
Lol, you're literally coming in threads pointing fingers and labelling posters and leaving without talking about anything regarding the topic at hand like now.
At least I post sources and generate discussion about the game.
Yeah because you just want the whole forum to be Xbox centric without any other perspectives right ? Sounds like fun
