Drive Club 30 fps vs. Forza 60 fps discussions

I admitted that DC doesn't look so fantastic given it run on more powerful hardware & have more time to polish, & ran half the fps. Also, I feel its a bit disappointing to have cardboard characters & trees at near distance for Forza, no matter if people think they can observe it or no in game play. But I am sure it will be a thing of the past in the next game with more time on the hardware.

But a few things people need to take note.

Forza:
- Run at 2X the fps,
- a launch title.
- Experience top Tier MS studio, with 4 highly rated games prior to their name. I am fairly sure they have bigger crews & budgets
- Weaker hardware
- Simulation which have physics & calculation etc that is pushing hardware on top of visual.

Drive club:
- Ran 1/2 fps of Forza
- Have more time to polish (about 6 months or so more)
- Not a Tier one Sony studio for racing game, that would be Polyphony, which would mean smaller team, & budget.
- Arcade racer, probably less taxing on the system in term of physics
- More powerful hardware

Anyway you look at these, what are we trying to actually compare? There is no one point we can compare in isolation.

Its hard to make direct comparison of DC vs Forza on visuals, as its so hard to make any meaningful comparison (see the points I mention above).

Also there is no reason why we cannot enjoy both, if you have both console. I can see how drive club can be fun, I can see how Forza can be fun. If you have a single console, its even easier, you just pick one of the 2 that is available for your system.
 
People keep saying that these guys had X amount of more time to develop DC.

What I'd like to know is where you come up with that figure. Are you asserting that Forza and DC development started on the exact same day? week? month?

For all we know Forza 5 development started 2 years before DC in which case it means they had nearly a whole year extra development time.
 
i answered that before, impossible since these were games made as a launch title FOR A NEW CONSOLE! that released on the same month.. so the devkits for these consoles would have been available near the same time for both developers.. and since DC aimed for a launch title its safe to assume they both started working near the same time

lest not forget DC was playable in nearly every gameshow before PS4 launch so they were clearly far along
 
Drive Club was listed as 35% complete at E3 last year, I honestly don't think that game was as far along as most of us thought, I know a lot of people were worried it wouldn't make launch and they were right.
 
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Wow. I literally just now decided to do a google search and found out that DC is in fact only 30fps now. No wonder there is a debate in here. And man... me personally, I've lost all interest in this game now that it's only 30fps. 60fps adds SOOOO much to the visuals even if I would have to put up with dips here and there. If they are going with 30fps, I might as well stick with quality Criterion racing games if I can't get that next gen 60fps incentive. I want 60fps to be the future of console gaming else I go back to master-racing it up on PC.
 
Kassen said:
Wow. I literally just now decided to do a google search and found out that DC is in fact only 30fps now. No wonder there is a debate in here. And man... me personally, I've lost all interest in this game now that it's only 30fps. 60fps adds SOOOO much to the visuals even if I would have to put up with dips here and there. If they are going with 30fps, I might as well stick with quality Criterion racing games if I can't get that next gen 60fps incentive. I want 60fps to be the future of console gaming else I go back to master-racing it up on PC.
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Where the s*** you been?
 
Kassen said:
Wow. I literally just now decided to do a google search and found out that DC is in fact only 30fps now. No wonder there is a debate in here. And man... me personally, I've lost all interest in this game now that it's only 30fps. 60fps adds SOOOO much to the visuals even if I would have to put up with dips here and there. If they are going with 30fps, I might as well stick with quality Criterion racing games if I can't get that next gen 60fps incentive. I want 60fps to be the future of console gaming else I go back to master-racing it up on PC.
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Maybe you got mixed up last year when they said "they were targeting 60 fps"?

For the first half of last year it was 30 fps, then around the summer they said they were targeting 60 fps. Then around a month ago, they said it's 30 fps again.
 
IdleHands said:
People keep saying that these guys had X amount of more time to develop DC.

What I'd like to know is where you come up with that figure. Are you asserting that Forza and DC development started on the exact same day? week? month?

For all we know Forza 5 development started 2 years before DC in which case it means they had nearly a whole year extra development time.
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But wouldn't the fact that final hardware wasn't done until near launch play a factor for the development of Forza 5?
 
Dno69 said:
But wouldn't the fact that final hardware wasn't done until near launch play a factor for the development of Forza 5?
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There are a lot of unknown factors. A simple time frame comparison matters little. It is how that time is spent that is more telling. T10 for example have always been Physics first, everything else after. So if 90% of their time was spent on Physics and 90% of drive clubs on the lighting then disparity will ensue. In regards to Drive Club you have another factor, development issues. We do not really know what they are, but they caused delays. Someone was fired/quit and the game got an extra 6 months.

Too many unknown factors for us to sit here and say this is the reason why such and such is as it is.
 
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But wouldn't the fact that final hardware wasn't done until near launch play a factor for the development of Forza 5?
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I suppose. But with X1 being so close to PC architecture they almost certainly had a target to hit so they knew mostly what they could get away with.

I'm not saying one way or the other what did or didn't happen. All I'm saying is that how do people know that X game had more/less time in development than the other?
 
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It's almost like they're looking through a green tinted filter.
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Well, it's either the green filter or the blue filter.....just depends on which way you swing. I personally love the hot Asian chick filter. :grin:
 
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