He asked a question of an opinion to people in the thread and people responded reasonably. Crazy how that works, eh?
EA Access: Sony's response, is it the future of gaming and does it affect gamers?
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He asked a question of an opinion to people in the thread and people responded reasonably. Crazy how that works, eh?
Ok so basically paying for demos is a good thing? Madden generally already has demos, so do many of EA sports titles but those will likely be gone with the service. How many EA games do you generally buy in a year? Is it going to be worth giving them $30 a year or the more expensive monthly fee so you can save 10% on what will likely be only 2 or 3 games?
Ho!! (Soprano style)
What demo lasts two hours? I've never played one. Not to mention playing a pre release of a game exclusively on one console before anyone else does. And EA has quite the portfolio of games now. Not just sports. M.E. comes to mind, as well as a few others. And for some reason Jinca, you keep leaving out the ability to play other games essentially for free with unlimited access for $2.50 a month. Thats a steal. No. THATS GRAND THEFT AUTO!!
Lock me up and throw away the key! I did it bish! (not you personally Jinca)
What demo lasts two hours? I've never played one. Not to mention playing a pre release of a game exclusively on one console before anyone else does. And EA has quite the portfolio of games now. Not just sports. M.E. comes to mind, as well as a few others. And for some reason Jinca, you keep leaving out the ability to play other games essentially for free with unlimited access for $2.50 a month. Thats a steal. No. THATS GRAND THEFT AUTO!!
Lock me up and throw away the key! I did it bish! (not you personally Jinca)
Ho!! (Soprano style)
What demo lasts two hours? I've never played one. Not to mention playing a pre release of a game exclusively on one console before anyone else does. And EA has quite the portfolio of games now. Not just sports. M.E. comes to mind, as well as a few others. And for some reason Jinca, you keep leaving out the ability to play other games essentially for free with unlimited access for $2.50 a month. Thats a steal. No. THATS GRAND THEFT AUTO!!
Lock me up and throw away the key! I did it bish! (not you personally Jinca)
Well we're going to wait and see what time table they use to actually add games to the Vault before anyone can start proclaiming it to be the next coming of Christ. For instance, it is a bit disappointing that they haven't included PvZ or NFS to the Vault.
They haven't been totally clear on what criteria a game must have to be included.
Funny how Sony states a 200% increase in PS+ subs with the PS4 but neglects to say that the major reason is because of them putting multiplayer behind a pay wall like Live. Sony should have said "we wanted to incorporate EA Access into PS Now but EA told us to go fck ourselves, so fck you back EA".
Its no second coming. Lets face it; not everyone likes EA. But for those who do, this is a great idea. There are at least two of the four games released on Access that I havent played and would like the opps to do so. And I'm sure NFS will hit the Vault in due time. Thats gotta be a gimme....
Dear god. Can you imagine if they include another four games to the Vault by holiday season and bundled a free game and a free month of Access with every X1 sold?
Gat Dayum!
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Hey, look! Console war name calling that doesn't have anything to do with the discussion. Is it that hard to actually make a post to debate what's being said instead of criticizing who is saying it? You sure do resort to it pretty frequently.
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You aren't just paying for early access to games. You are paying for discounts on new games on top of a library of older titles.
Uhhh yeah... the early access to games will be gone when the games, you know, actually release in retail.
Edit: Demos =/= "early access". Early access will give people access to the final (retail) version of the game. Not a demo with limited options that's based on an earlier build of the game.
I'm already not paying full price for Xbox Live so buying a year of EA Access would equal me paying full price for Xbox Live but getting deals on EA content on top of it. Also why are you saying/assuming I only buy 2-3 EA games per year? Are you pushing your purchasing habits on to others to try and say why people shouldn't find the service to be good? Just find that to be strange.
Anyway, no, I usually buy around 5-6 EA games per year. With this service though, a person doesn't even need to buy multiple EA games to benefit from it. A person could get the $5/month subscription and only have it for a month in which an EA title that they are interested in comes out. $5 would give early access to a new game that's not in retail yet on top of the 10% discount which would mean having the game earlier (before retail) for $1 less. Seems like a no brainer for anyone interested in an EA game (who doesn't buy many EA games per year) that doesn't mind getting the game digitally.
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Not at all. Clearly, you haven't grasped the monetary model.
Obviously, if you frequently buy EA games, this is an amazing deal... but even if you don't, math is your friend, JinCA. With EA Access, players can demonstrably save money, and get WAY more value out of their hard earned cash:
Scenario #1: You only get 1-3 EA games a year
Option A: Buy the game at retail or digital like normal. (59.99+tax total)
Option B: The month that it's releasing, buy EA pass for one month ($4.99), get a 10% discount on the one game ($5,99), and get early access to the game you already wanted to play/buy... not to mention, for that whole month, you get unlimited access to all games in the vault (which is 4 high quality titles today, and will only grow over time).
With Option B, you not only get WAY more content to play (full access to all vault games for a month), along with 5 day early-access to the non-demo, FINAL build of the game, but you also get it for $1 LESS. You get far more value, and for a dollar less.
This method scales linearly. So if you buy two games a year, you save $2. If you buy three games, you save $3 (minimally). If two games come out in the same month, your savings jumps from a buck to $7.
Savings: $1 - 3$ minimally, but you get FAR more value.
Scenario #2: You never (or rarely) buy EA games
Option A: Continue to never or rarely buy them.
Option B: Spend $4.99 to rent a bunch of EA's older games or an entire month. There's a LOT of play time you can get in a month. Rack up a bunch of Gamerscore, see if anything sticks, and if it doesn't - $4.99 isn't much for a full month's worth of packed gaming... but if you do find something you like that sticks, you get it at a discount, and it's probably already discounted since it would be in the vault... and/or you might also find/see some interesting new games, and get early access to them in the process...
This is an easy win/win. The consumer gets a TON of value for their $4.99, but there's no commitment... and it's a great thing for EA, because they get you $5, but they also get a chance to prove to your their products are good, and you should buy them. If they fail, at least they got someone who hadn't been giving them a chance looking at their stuff, and if they succeed - they get more sales. It's truly a win/win.
This is my scenario. I haven't been interested in too many EA games for a while... I'd never buy Madden. I'd never buy Fifa... but I sure as heck-fire will spend $4.99 to play those for a month, and get some fun out of it. I'd love to play Peggle as well, for example.
It's just an awesome deal, really. No matter what your situation, you can get more value for your gaming dollar, and that's a great thing for the industry, for the gamers, and for the publishers/developers.
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I'm hoping that EA will support some more of their past creative titles. Every once in a while they come out with something that I just gotta have. Alice: Madness Returns, Brutal Legend, PvsZ, and Mass Effect come to mind. As I said it before, it all depends on how this thing gets supported. I don't really care about the demo bits, I'm more about what line of fully playable games will be available and what will they support in the future. This would be a cool model for a indie game service as well now that I think about it. I suppose that is what Ouya is offering.
Doesn't work as the majority of console gamers AREN'T digital only nor does the small size of the user base help..
Maybe in a few years when the user base is large/r but not now and you still have that digital problem.
This might be the first time ever a console maker bashed a third party company.
But hey, I think Sony has a point. Paying $5/month or $30/yr is a rip off compared to Sony's PS Now. Just check out PS Now's great pricing and value.
But hey, I think Sony has a point. Paying $5/month or $30/yr is a rip off compared to Sony's PS Now. Just check out PS Now's great pricing and value.
EA Access is a fantastic deal at $30/yr. The only EA games I'll grab at launch (at hopefully a $20 off preorder deal) is NHL and Mass Effect. But paying $30 to have a library of oldies like last year's football, soccer and whatever other games they add to it is a steal. They make money as I'd never buy them even when bargain binned for $20, and I get a library of good games I might play here and there.
For me, whenever friends come by they always want to play NHL (which I have), but then when it comes to Madden or FIFA I never have them. Best I have is a crappy demo I keep on hand. Stockpiling a list of games for personal playing and for friends and family for $30/yr is sweet.
For me, whenever friends come by they always want to play NHL (which I have), but then when it comes to Madden or FIFA I never have them. Best I have is a crappy demo I keep on hand. Stockpiling a list of games for personal playing and for friends and family for $30/yr is sweet.
And how significant the demos/trials are for other games, though that isn't a draw for me really. I don't care about sports games, most big games have betas, and I typically know what I like before I buy.
$5 isn't a high buy in whatsoever, but the last thing I need is another subscription, especially if the Vault is underwhelming (ie: sports and old games I've played), and since I already get 20% off all games I buy at best by with their gamers club service.
This might be the first time ever a console maker bashed a third party company.
But hey, I think Sony has a point. Paying $5/month or $30/yr is a rip off compared to Sony's PS Now. Just check out PS Now's great pricing and value.
Exactly.
It really is laughable that Sony's suggesting EA's service isn't of high enough value. It destroys their rental service in terms of value. Not to mention, you're playing games locally with no lag/latency, and no visual compression. With PS Now, you'll have lag/latency and video compression... people think X1 games with slightly lower resolution looks bad on a 60" screen? They're in for a world of hurt for PS Now titles... those things will look hideous to them, if they really think the X1 versions of cross plats look bad.
My gut is that Sony would love to take it, but they can't. Their marketplace probably just isn't even designed for the kind of monetary model EA's produced.
One of the "under-the-covers" things MS did this generation that people don't know much about is a complete overhaul of the store/marketplace. It completely revamped, and designed to be flexible with great agility and speed. Again, something like this on Xbox 360's marketplace wouldn't have been possible... which is why it makes me wonder... perhaps Sony didn't do a good enough job designing/building their store...
Oh yeah, I forgot about the whole latency thing.
I think if Sony didn't have Now, they'd be all over it too. But they already let their cat out of the bag. so there's no turning back. Of course, Sony could just allow it and have two competing subscription models and let gamers choose either the Sony one or the EA one, or both.
But hey, Sony is doing gamers a favour and deciding for them. Nothing wrong with that I guess.
The amazing thing isn't that Sony is banning EA Access. It's that they already went full out trying to bash and discredit and third party partner..... which is something no console maker does (at least not publicly).
Which means at the end of the day, Sony is sure pissed and threatened by it on X1. So much for friendly competition. If it's not PS4 vs X1, it's now PS Now vs EA Access.
Notice how MS is sitting back and soaking it in keeping their mouths shut? The exact same thing last year when MS was on the defensive. Amazing how tides turn quickly.
I think if Sony didn't have Now, they'd be all over it too. But they already let their cat out of the bag. so there's no turning back. Of course, Sony could just allow it and have two competing subscription models and let gamers choose either the Sony one or the EA one, or both.
But hey, Sony is doing gamers a favour and deciding for them. Nothing wrong with that I guess.
The amazing thing isn't that Sony is banning EA Access. It's that they already went full out trying to bash and discredit and third party partner..... which is something no console maker does (at least not publicly).
Which means at the end of the day, Sony is sure pissed and threatened by it on X1. So much for friendly competition. If it's not PS4 vs X1, it's now PS Now vs EA Access.
Notice how MS is sitting back and soaking it in keeping their mouths shut? The exact same thing last year when MS was on the defensive. Amazing how tides turn quickly.
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I've read that this "early access" EA is talking about is roughly 2 hours per title.
I doubt very many people buy 5-6 EA titles per year, most people probably buy between 1-3 EA titles per year, and no I wasn't trying to push my buying habits on you.
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Yeah, going to skip as well for the time being since I only play NBA 2K for sports. And it sounds like they'll pull titles randomly in and out of the vault?
This might be the first time ever a console maker bashed a third party company.
But hey, I think Sony has a point. Paying $5/month or $30/yr is a rip off compared to Sony's PS Now. Just check out PS Now's great pricing and value.
Sony's pricing model is absolute dogsh*t and the service will fail if they keep that up. I can buy full games on eBay or half.com for that rental price.
If EA tries to hide betas, dlc, and otherwise free content behind EA Access though to 'encourage' subscriptions, that's absolute bs too. And given recent trends in the industry this is a definite possibility.
