Game Lineup Comparisons, v. 1.6

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I dont believe MS could allow 343i, Turn 10 or Coalition to move on to other franchises and leave Halo, Forza or Gears behind. Sure, they can let them spread their wings on new Ip's while maintaining Halo, Forza and Gears as well. Love it or hate it, NO ONE wants to live in a world without those 3. Gamers everywhere would go ape s***.

Well Uncharted is at least as big as Gears and Naughty Dog is done with it but Microsoft does play it safer and that is understandable.
 
Take it easy on comments like that.



You know I love you, Marty, but you're one of the most emotional posters we have. Don't misunderstand -- most of the people here are engineering types, all buttoned up and logical, so it's fun to see somebody cut loose. I guess I was seeing a bit of the old "pot and the kettle."

Maybe you guys are long-lost brothers. I sense a story coming on ... separated at birth, after their parents were killed in the console wars. One child is adopted by the Xbots, the other by the Sonybots. One fateful day, years later, they meet on an internet forum, neither realizing the secret that bound them together. (Ok, I won't give up my day job.)

This s*** right here, Andy, "Maybe you guys are long-lost brothers. I sense a story coming on ... separated at birth, after their parents were killed in the console wars. One child is adopted by the Xbots, the other by the Sonybots. One fateful day, years later, they meet on an internet forum, neither realizing the secret that bound them together. (Ok, I won't give up my day job.)"

....don't do that s*** no more.


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Come on, be honest. It brought a tear to your eye.
 
Have, actually. All 3 are known around the world for their SP and MP campaigns to be among the best, if not, arguably, the very best in their respective genres. Uncharted, GoW and GT can't claim to both SP and MP. SP, sure. MP? Not so much...

Debatable but I still don't see why that matters. Uncharted has both and still Naughty Dog moves on.
 
Debatable but I still don't see why that matters. Uncharted has both and still Naughty Dog moves on.
It's entirely relevant as the mentioned BIG 3 have note worthy single player AND multi player campaigns. You can skip the SP campaigns of all 3 and still feel confident in the MP or vice versa.

Uncharted gave you a fantastic SP campaign but, correct me if I'm wrong here, the MP runs btw fair and decent? Most who invest in the BIG 3 do so for the SP, MP or both.

MP gives you longer legs than SP. That's a given. You can still be elite with a very good SP. A very good MP can give you longer legs and make you legendary/iconic.
 
It's entirely relevant as the mentioned BIG 3 have note worthy single player AND multi player campaigns. You can skip the SP campaigns of all 3 and still feel confident in the MP or vice versa.

Uncharted gave you a fantastic SP campaign but, correct me if I'm wrong here, the MP runs btw fair and decent? Most who invest in the BIG 3 do so for the SP, MP or both.

MP gives you longer legs than SP. That's a given. You can still be elite with a very good SP. A very good MP can give you longer legs and make you legendary/iconic.

So why does that make it easier for Sony to walk away from a series that is growing in popularity?
 
-- most of the people here are engineering types, all buttoned up and logical
I get that stereotype applied to me all the freaken time!

As for comparing restraints on MS's internal studios compared to Naughty Dog, look at what you're comparing.

New companies, with staff hand picked for the purpose of a genre/licence.
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And a studio that's established, experienced, with a record for successful new IP's and creativity.

Obviously, the more successful a company becomes, the more bargaining/trust/repertoire a company has work with.
 
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So why does that make it easier for Sony to walk away from a series that is growing in popularity?
Dude? If Uncharted had an amazing MP to match the fantastic SP, I doubt Naughty Dog would be signing off on Uncharted -- if the MP campaign was as noteworthy as say Gears or Halo. Fact of the matter is, its not - and that's okay.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say Halo, Gears and Forza are more greatly anticipated because of their MP campaigns than SP. To say a lot of gamers buy these titles primarily for their MP campaigns doesnt seem too far a stretch. AT ALL...actually. I personally buy Gears and Halo for SP and MP for example. Forza would be just as much, but I suck ass online - so I f*** with the SP primarily, when it comes to Forza.
 
It's entirely relevant as the mentioned BIG 3 have note worthy single player AND multi player campaigns. You can skip the SP campaigns of all 3 and still feel confident in the MP or vice versa.

Uncharted gave you a fantastic SP campaign but, correct me if I'm wrong here, the MP runs btw fair and decent? Most who invest in the BIG 3 do so for the SP, MP or both.

MP gives you longer legs than SP. That's a given. You can still be elite with a very good SP. A very good MP can give you longer legs and make you legendary/iconic.
UC4 has pretty good MP.
When you eventually get a PS4...you need to pick it up.
 
I dont believe MS could allow 343i, Turn 10 or Coalition to move on to other franchises and leave Halo, Forza or Gears behind. Sure, they can let them spread their wings on new Ip's while maintaining Halo, Forza and Gears as well. Love it or hate it, NO ONE wants to live in a world without those 3. Gamers everywhere would go ape s***. Let's not forget, Halo, Gears and Forza are also known for their multi player functions as well as SP. Legendary functions to be sure. That's not easy to do.

I definitely think MS could stand to take a break from one of those franchises and let one of those developers try something new and then come back to the ip later. Maybe Turn 10 or Playground games.
 
I definitely think MS could stand to take a break from one of those franchises and let one of those developers try something new and then come back to the ip later. Maybe Turn 10 or Playground games.
I'm not the least bothered by the amount of time they've released either of them this gen. I've had plenty to play while I've waited, and once they release I enjoy them. Halo 5 came out last year, so did Forza 6. We won't see them again until late next year - if that. Then again, we are still seeing great DLC content all the while for both of them - even now. Gears is finally coming this year after a great span of time since the last (if you don't include the remaster) too.

I dunno. I don't think their rushing anything out just yet.
 
Jesus Christ Zero-O. Generalize much?
You're talking about 10's of millions of individuals.

If you said that Microsoft's scope isn't as broad as Sony's, then ok, that's true. But to judge a whole (big ass group) of people based on games that they're not even getting is weird logic.

No My logic comes from years of gaming on Xbox and Xbox 360 untilI I eventually got tired of being disappointed and moved to Playstation.

And why do you think Xbox gamers are struggling to get those titles? Very little chance anything outside the norm will mak money. Xbox gamers only play main stream titles, shooters and the occional niche title. Ofcourse they'll support XBLA but that's where it ends. Again, Xbox hasn't had a successful franchjse since Gears. You could argue Horizon but let'dl be real it's Forza.

I can't even have a discussion with Zero. He interjects his emotions with his responses - mistaking fact and passion as the same thing. They are universes apart. You can tell by as many typos in his posts. f***it.

Pretty much everything I say fact or logical.

Link to the online community numbers.



Link from MS or Square Enix showing the official sales numbers.



Link from MS or Insomniac showing official sales numbers.



All your credibility (that you had remaining) is now gone here at Union.

You have made pretty outlandish comments yourself. Don't act high and Mighty.

Take it easy on comments like that.



You know I love you, Marty, but you're one of the most emotional posters we have. Don't misunderstand -- most of the people here are engineering types, all buttoned up and logical, so it's fun to see somebody cut loose. I guess I was seeing a bit of the old "pot and the kettle."

Maybe you guys are long-lost brothers. I sense a story coming on ... They were separated as young children when their parents were killed in the great Console Wars. One child was adopted by the Xbots; the other by the Sonybots. One fateful day, many years later, they met on an internet forum, never suspecting the secret that bound them together. (Ok, I won't give up my day job.)

Except you have it wrong. Iwas a huge Xbox fan until eventuallu I was tired of being disappointed . Sometime a lot of my comments out of fustration with the company.

Most everything I say fact or logical but delivered in an aggressive tone people don't like. Ofcourse this an xbox centric website so everyone will bring out the torches and pretend everything I say is outlandish or gasp over any comment toward MS.
 
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Me outlandish? Sure I can be. Sharing my opinions? Yes. I don't try to pass off my opinions or sarcasm as fact. You just made up a bunch of random gibberish, and you are still trying to stereotype or class Xbox gamers and PS gamers as different types of gamers as a fact, when that is not a fact. Nothing you have said is fact.

You (nor us) know the sales numbers for the games you mentioned. You posted your opinion. Until the companies release their figures, it's just hyperbole and FUD in your posting.

How is Titanfall a flop when it has surpassed 10 million sold LAST October?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/05/titanfall-sales-pass-10-million-globally

How is Titanfall a flop when it has an average Metacritic rating of 86?
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/titanfall

As for the "active" community, I do not have any numbers to determine the "active" people. I can tell you there are indeed plenty of people playing when I last played (about a month ago) with no issues getting into full matches.

What game on the PS4, or PS4+PC has surpassed 10 million unit sold?

You were trying to claim that PlayStation gamers are diverse, and thus more intellectual and wise with their genre choices, and Xbox gamers are closed minded drones catering to dudebro games. You are welcome to feel that way, but good god don't pass your opinion off as a fact.
 
No My logic comes from years of gaming on Xbox and Xbox 360 untilI I eventually got tired of being disappointed and moved to Playstation.

And why do you think Xbox gamers are struggling to get those titles? Very little chance anything outside the norm will mak money. Xbox gamers only play main stream titles, shooters and the occional niche title. Ofcourse they'll support XBLA but that's where it ends. Again, Xbox hasn't had a successful franchjse since Gears. You could argue Horizon but let'dl be real it's Forza.



Pretty much everything I say fact or logical.



You have made pretty outlandish comments yourself. Don't act high and Mighty.



Except you have it wrong. Iwas a huge Xbox fan until eventuallu I was tired of being disappointed . Sometime a lot of my comments out of fustration with the company.

Most everything I say fact or logical but delivered in an aggressive tone people don't like. Ofcourse this an xbox centric website so everyone will bring out the torches and pretend everything I say is outlandish or gasp over any comment toward MS.



Yeah what you say about the company is true. But when your opinion crosses over to the companies customers, that's where it comes across as a little hateful to a large segment of gamers.

Andy is in the same bout as you. Why is your tone so much different than his?

It's Just games. Not politics or something.

Also most of these unique, artsy innovative games that make Sony gamers so enlightened don't sell on Sony's platform either. The difference is Sony still supports them. Which is something that I love about Sony.

Maybe most gamers across all platforms aren't as open minded as you think they are. Eh?
 
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Except you have it wrong. Iwas a huge Xbox fan until eventuallu I was tired of being disappointed . Sometime a lot of my comments out of fustration with the company.

I guess you took the story seriously? Maybe take a break or something? Seems like you're taking this way too seriously. I know your history; I was the one who commented on our similarity. I'm a little dismayed that you're acting aggressively. I'd hate to lose another Sony guy on this forum. There are only a handful of us left, lol.

Most everything I say fact or logical but delivered in an aggressive tone people don't like.

I disagree that most everything you say is "fact." I do agree that you're delivering it in an aggressive tone that people aren't liking much. Maybe take that into consideration and dial back the rhetoric a little?
 
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How is Titanfall a flop when it has surpassed 10 million sold LAST October?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/05/titanfall-sales-pass-10-million-globally

How is Titanfall a flop when it has an average Metacritic rating of 86?
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/titanfall

As for the "active" community, I do not have any numbers to determine the "active" people. I can tell you there are indeed plenty of people playing when I last played (about a month ago) with no issues getting into full matches.

What game on the PS4, or PS4+PC has surpassed 10 million unit sold?

Small correction here but Titanfall sold 7 million units. It is also on 3 platforms and not 2.
 
My money is on UC4 being the biggest or fastest selling(hasn't been out a whole year yet) selling exclusive(this gen/thus far) if we are bringing sales into this.
 
Small correction here but Titanfall sold 7 million units. It is also on 3 platforms and not 2.

Last we heard was 10m but didn't say if that was sales or unique players.

Either way it was no way near a flop.
 
Stupid IGN never updated their article. Tools.

7 million still isn't a flop. If it is, every game on PS4 and X1 is a flop, as the only game probably close to 7 million might be Halo 5?

Mario Kart 8!

Well 3 platforms would increase the expectations but yeah no way its a flop. The population did fall off but that doesn't make it a flop.
 
Splatoon could get close the way things are going! Isn't it past 4M now
 
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