Major Nelson speaks about Native 1080p 60fps...

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That's the only way either company will ever get me to buy a "next-gen" console. Well, XB1 isn't even a consideration for me, but PS4 is. Now Sony just needs to start pumping out good, new 1st party titles. I love Uncharted and will probably love TLOU if I ever get off my cheap lazy ass and buy it but I don't want any more Uncharted. Perhaps 1 or 2 sequels to TLoU would be welcomed, but no more than that.
I had heard mixed things about TLOU, but it did look good. Thankfully someone created Uncharted movies on YT out of cutscenes and minimal gameplay for my poor ass to watch :)
 
Oh please do tell use about PRT and its ability to write to tiled textures. It doesn't seem to have any support for that operation. Hmmm.

How about using the PRT's in multi-sampling operations? Could you show me a link to that page?

They do similar things. They are not the same thing. At best PRT is a subset of Tiled resources.

Can you give us links to the places that claim (preferably Microsoft pages) that Tiled Resources can do both these things.
 
cause one is a next gen game only made by a MS dev and the other is a cross gen game made by one of the laziest devs out there, and before people jump on me for that. You know it to be true. The COD games are a cut and paste series with minimal changes. Often the most notable changes seem to be in renaming perks and kill streaks. It likely doesn't help that they are once again using a very outdated engine.

I'm not saying Turn10 is lazy, but Forza 5 is pretty much a cut and paste job to meet the launch deadline. Prebaked lighting, no dynamic weather, and no dynamic day/night changes.
 
I'm not saying Turn10 is lazy, but Forza 5 is pretty much a cut and paste job to meet the launch deadline. Prebaked lighting, no dynamic weather, and no dynamic day/night changes.

All three things are IMO, meaningless icing. I'm confident Turn 10 focused on the priorities that matter.
 
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PS4 is easier to develop for, that being the case games start to look significantly better than XB1 versions within 3 years. The XB1 plays catch-up nearly the entire generation and by year 5 the PS4 advancements start to slow and XB1 catchs up for the most part.

Partially true, but this isn't the PS3 vs 360 with radically different architects. PS4/XB1 share basically the same chip, with the PS4 just having more juice. No amount of optimization can overcome that.
 
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Keep in mind that Dan has stated (in the past) that he does not like weather or night racing as he feels it ruins the 'experience', pretty sure that's why it hasn't been in since F2
 
Nelson might as well have said that water could come from a lake or an ocean, depending on the source. :laugh:
 
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Bi66er got owned back @ TXB when he said the PS4 had no answer to DX11.2...

The PSSL info I posted shut him up, but you know how that guy works... He knows but will still argue even whilst pwned.

Now he fights the dumb fight @ places like Gametrailers and N4G lol.

I get the feeling that proponents of each side seem to think their side will mature while the other will remain stagnant. PS4 will probably mature quicker due to easier development, but that doesn't mean the X1 won't mature either.

Exactly, both will mature, both have the headroom.
 
Bi66er got owned back @ TXB when he said the PS4 had no answer to DX11.2...

The PSSL info I posted shut him up, but you know how that guy works... He knows but will still argue even whilst pwned.

Now he fights the dumb fight @ places like Gametrailers and N4G lol.

Actually he is still here. He is "XboxNeo."
 
Good thing for MS that they and 3rd party developers will get better with the XB1 and start to produce better looking games, especially since the same isn't true of the PS4.

Yup, that's right, the XB1 will mature but the PS4 won't, what you see at launch is what you'll get for the life of the console.

At least that's what some people would like for us to believe.

That's complete and utter bullcrap and I honestly don't see how you could even bring yourself to type it.

I mean who is saying what you posted?
 
That's complete and utter bullcrap and I honestly don't see how you could even bring yourself to type it.

I mean who is saying what you posted?


Pretty much every XB fan. Their ammunition as of late is "The XB1 will get better when new/better tools are delivered", without even mentioning that the PS4 will do the same. In fact they like to imply with these kinds of comments that the XB1 will mature but the PS4 will be stagnant.
 
Pretty much every XB fan. Their ammunition as of late is "The XB1 will get better when new/better tools are delivered", without even mentioning that the PS4 will do the same. In fact they like to imply with these kinds of comments that the XB1 will mature but the PS4 will be stagnant.

And the PS3 fans didn't say that same thing about the PS3 when it was failing on multiplat titles for years? C'mon man.
 
Pretty much every XB fan. Their ammunition as of late is "The XB1 will get better when new/better tools are delivered", without even mentioning that the PS4 will do the same. In fact they like to imply with these kinds of comments that the XB1 will mature but the PS4 will be stagnant.

I haven't seen anyone say that or even imply that. If I have missed it, please name the delusional ones.

And sorry to come across strong. I just think you're stretching the truth a bit.
 
And the PS3 fans didn't say that same thing about the PS3 when it was failing on multiplat titles for years? C'mon man.

Right.
Running COD games at sub HD resolution compared to the 360 versions.
(since COD has become the new measuring stick I thought the comparison apt)
 
Lol cod was sub hd on the 360 as
Well. .

Opps. Yeah....you are right. Still doesn't negate the fact that some versions on the PS3 were running at lower native res...i.e. black ops.
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PS3 might have been more powerful in raw flops....360 still had the better GPU and it showed.
 
I'm not saying Turn10 is lazy, but Forza 5 is pretty much a cut and paste job to meet the launch deadline. Prebaked lighting, no dynamic weather, and no dynamic day/night changes.

Maybe it has something to do with limited development time considering its a launch title???
 
Yeah the PS3's 1st games looked phenomenal overall

Yeah. They looked better than the 360's 1st party offerings. I do think the 360 was capable of producing better looking games than PS3 exclusives given it had the better GPU....just didn't have the devs there to make it happen. Sony on the other hand has talented devs everywhere.
 
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Yeah. They looked better than the 360's 1st party offerings. I do think the 360 was capable of producing better looking games than PS3 exclusives given it had the better GPU....just didn't have the devs there to make it happen. Sony on the other hand has talented devs everywhere.
Yeah. hoping MS gets some quality talent in their studios this generation.
 
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Bi66er got owned back @ TXB when he said the PS4 had no answer to DX11.2...

The PSSL info I posted shut him up, but you know how that guy works... He knows but will still argue even whilst pwned.

Now he fights the dumb fight @ places like Gametrailers and N4G lol.



Exactly, both will mature, both have the headroom.

The PS4 still has no answer for DX 11.2, so there was no pwnership...
 
Yeah. They looked better than the 360's 1st party offerings. I do think the 360 was capable of producing better looking games than PS3 exclusives given it had the better GPU....just didn't have the devs there to make it happen. Sony on the other hand has talented devs everywhere.

If it could of it would of.
 
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