Microsoft Closes Redfall Developer Arkane Austin, HiFi Rush Developer Tango Gameworks, and More

What does that have to do with this forum?

Only thing I remember me included is MS/XB needed to grow and put out more games. Itā€™s just so many donā€™t like the way they go about it and feel they ā€œboughtā€ their way into this industry while Sony/Nintendo built everything they have.
I don't see how you can honestly say people weren't cheerleading them buying Bethesda and Activision.

Sure if MS was faced with overwhelming negativity to them buying every studio which they certainly weren't. They faced a little bit with Bethesda and more to buying Activision and that is about it.
 
Here's the ex cinematics director of Tango saying it's false to that Reddit claim.

 
I don't see how you can honestly say people weren't cheerleading them buying Bethesda and Activision.

Sure if MS was faced with overwhelming negativity to them buying every studio which they certainly weren't. They faced a little bit with Bethesda and more to buying Activision and that is about it.
Activision and Zenimax both wanted to be acquired.
 
Jez says Xbox devs don't know exactly what constitutes success either

 
Geez, the amount of investigations this forum and other forums are doing to find the answer as to why MS likes to fire their studios. Good luck!
 
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Not to sound like Iā€™m just here to defend Phil, but he is one to be held accountable for, but itā€™s only been until recently that heā€™s gotten the power to present his decisions to the ceo of ms directly. He had to get the approval bey a handful of other people above him to even present it to said ceo, even though thereā€™s maybe the three others above him still that call the shots cos theyā€™re ms not Xbox.
So Mattrick ruined xbox and phil saved it when they both weren't really making the decisions?
 
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I'll be honest; I've enjoyed the benefit of GP and feel I've gotten value. If I added the downfall of studios because I opted into the subscription then in the grand scheme of things, the model is broken. That wouldn't make sense. We've all seen some devs praise game subscriptions and comment unfavorably on it. Yes, purchasing probably ensures your are 100% supporting those developers.
The ones who praise it are people who's games didn't sell and then had more people play it when it went to the services so they got to talk about how many people played it isntead of bought it or indie devs who's games would never have any marketing anyway. You never see people who had successful AAA games come to the service and say they benefited from it if they weren't owned by xbox.
 
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Yeah I doubt most will actually cancel.
If you really care just buy the game. Nothings stopping you even if you still have GP.

Also maybe complete it. Rush still has a very low % for completing the game.
If you are going to buy their first party games why give them an extra $204 a year?
 
The ones who praise it are people who's games didn't sell and then had more people play it when it went to the services so they got to talk about how many people played it isntead of bought it or indie devs who's games would never have any marketing anyway. You never see people who had successful AAA games come to the service and say they benefited from it if they weren't owned by xbox.
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The ones who praise it are people who's games didn't sell and then had more people play it when it went to the services so they got to talk about how many people played it isntead of bought it or indie devs who's games would never have any marketing anyway. You never see people who had successful AAA games come to the service and say they benefited from it if they weren't owned by xbox.

We ignoring Sega then?
 
We ignoring Sega then?
What have they put out that is really a AAA level title in the last 10 years? I can't think of anything.

Edit: You talking Yakuza? again how many copies SOLD because of gamepass? Just giving a company money doesn't mean that gamepass made the game more successful it means MS paid you for it so you got safe money.
 
Not only is this not the guy you want championing for you right now. The message is dumb and he should never have typed it let alone hit send.
I did a quick search and I didn't find anything that painted him in a negative light, the fact that he defended someone who he doesn't want to work for at least to me shows he's mature enough to separate personal feelings from what he thinks is right.
 
So we shouldn't be optimistic about what both companies want? Only pessimism allowed I guess.
I don't see what the companies wanted to do has to do with cheerleading. Also criticizing the cheerleading doesn't mean that Microsoft did something wrong or evil by making of the acquisitions. Lets just admit there was a lot of BS surrounding it all and people bought in because they don't view Spencer as a suit.
 
Layoffs and office closures happen daily in every industry. No one other than the Microsoft and Xbox executive teams have any clue what issues, reasons, or instructions from above factored into the decisions. Theorizing and endlessly posting about it is a gigantic waste of time. Companies exist to make money, and are beholden to their leadership, board, and investors. Any company that keeps a long unprofitable team open out of the goodness of their hearts are simultaneously killing their own business.
 
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I don't see how you can honestly say people weren't cheerleading them buying Bethesda and Activision.

Sure if MS was faced with overwhelming negativity to them buying every studio which they certainly weren't. They faced a little bit with Bethesda and more to buying Activision and that is about it.
Again who here was cheerleading it?

Weā€™ve all criticized them when itā€™s warranted on anything, problem is all the over criticism and hate MS/XB has gotten for many years that others in the industry donā€™t get. The constant downplay of GP. Itā€™s played out by this point. Of course MS hasnā€™t handled things well going back to XB One. PS and Nintendo also make dumb decisions that so many just make excuses or move on quickly.

More and more it seems the higher ups in MS themselves are pushing the XB division into situations weā€™re in now. Who the hell in their right minds would want to keep shooting themselves in the foot knowing the extra big microscope their under 24/7?
 
Felt that for a while. Should have been 3 months after launch from the start.
After those first couple years I agree big games/money makers shouldnā€™t be launching day one on GP. Maybe just give GP subscribers discounts or bonuses for buy game day one then eventually roll the game into GP the way EA does on EA Play. The running narrative that GP hasnā€™t grown, isnā€™t profitable, doesnā€™t help salesā€¦ even though these salty haters have no info on any of this to back up their claims is hilarious.
 
The cuts are not done yet.




According to Jason ,this week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the companyā€™s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

ALOT more in the actual article.
 
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