Microsoft sells 2,000,000 Xbox One's in 18 days.
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Numbers to back up those GOTY claims, or are you...let me guess...just guessing based on anecdotal evidence or what you think you remember?
Just to be clear, I could give two old craps over who beats who in sales numbers, so long as things are generally competitive. But I find it extremely irritating when people claim things based on limited or anecdotal evidence and treat them like incontrovertible fact. Sorry. You don't get to do that. This includes the clown who said "Hey, Target has LITERALLY hundreds and they're not selling. I bet PS4s are sold out." The stupidity of making a statement like that is only trumped by the pride felt about being right that accompanied it.
Curious. What does Valliance's PS3 GOTY point have to do with a thread about Xbox One selling 2M units?
Look it up you will see Sony 1st party games scored higher and got more goty awards with Uncharted 2 getting the most GOTY awards in the history of gaming.
Sony was posting numbers from what was sold in 2 weeks.
Gaf has a breakdown of the numbers why don't YOU do the research before doing your usual finger pointing that somebody is lying?
PS4 was 2.1M in 17 days from Nov 15 - Dec 1 across 32 countries collectively.
That's 123k/day. Just 12k/day more than X1 despite being in 19 more countries, $100 cheaper and one full week less in the world's largest gaming market (USA). Xbox One did very well.
With so many online polls claiming 3:1 and 4:1 for PS4, I was thinking X1 would only be at 30k/day. With PS4 at 123k/day, X1 should be one-quarter of that. LOL
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-03-ps4-sells-over-2-1-million-worldwide
PS4 sells over 2.1 million worldwide
By Wesley Yin-Poole Published Tuesday, 3 December 2013
PlayStation 4 has sold over 2.1 million units worldwide, Sony has announced.
PlayStation 4 launched in North America on 15th November and sold one million units within 24 hours. The console launched in Europe and Australasia on Friday, 29th November, adding 700,000 sales from both of those territories as of 1st December (including around 250,000 in the UK). In total PS4 is available in 32 countries.
That's 123k/day. Just 12k/day more than X1 despite being in 19 more countries, $100 cheaper and one full week less in the world's largest gaming market (USA). Xbox One did very well.
With so many online polls claiming 3:1 and 4:1 for PS4, I was thinking X1 would only be at 30k/day. With PS4 at 123k/day, X1 should be one-quarter of that. LOL
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-12-03-ps4-sells-over-2-1-million-worldwide
PS4 sells over 2.1 million worldwide
By Wesley Yin-Poole Published Tuesday, 3 December 2013
PlayStation 4 has sold over 2.1 million units worldwide, Sony has announced.
PlayStation 4 launched in North America on 15th November and sold one million units within 24 hours. The console launched in Europe and Australasia on Friday, 29th November, adding 700,000 sales from both of those territories as of 1st December (including around 250,000 in the UK). In total PS4 is available in 32 countries.
Xbox One hasn't been out for 20 days. That's a made up number.
Sony's sales were for 16 days of sales. 16 x's 150k would be 2.4 million, they announced 2.1 million. 16 days is not 2 weeks.
It is closer to 130k per day. I had the wrong date as their PR was from the 3rd and most articles didn't mention the data was for November.
Either way.. the 20 days thing is just flat out wrong for Xbox One as it wasn't out 20 days at the time of the announcement.. and 150k was certainly a made up number.
So again, why are you making up numbers? If you want to claim you got them from GAF that's fine, they are still wrong.
I don't think the numbers are bogus nor do I think they are indicative of much beyond scalpers and the hardcore buy a metric sh!t ton of consoles at launch and that a 500 dollar launch price is no longer the hindrance it was in the past.
They did the same last generation in the early going too. Let's see if that investment is still there at generation's end. It would be great if it was.
The one that will win the early going will be the one that can produce the most and get them on shelves quickest. I think all we've seen proven is that they seem to be producing them and stocking them at a level of parity.
They did the same last generation in the early going too. Let's see if that investment is still there at generation's end. It would be great if it was.
The one that will win the early going will be the one that can produce the most and get them on shelves quickest. I think all we've seen proven is that they seem to be producing them and stocking them at a level of parity.
If I got the dates right, X1 has been 18 days, PS4 has been 17 days with the latest MS and Sony data they provided.
Good old Valliance is purposely trying to skew numbers wrongly to make an "OMG PS4 sales per day are kicking butt" claim, when really the sales per day for both are similar. PS4 at 123k/day, X1 at 111k/day. Hardly boastful data when every Sony fan was expecting PS4 to destroy X1 sales.
And that's with PS4 in 19 more countries.
Purposely trying to fudge numbers IMO should be a bannable offence since he's been continuously trying to fudge numbers to defend PS4. His PS3 GOTY points (which have nothing to do with sales analysis in this thread) is another detour.
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I don't get why people think $500 is a big deal.
Sony sold more PS3's in their first year on the market than MS sold 360's. And at more than $500 for most of that year.
Sony sold more PS3's in their first year on the market than MS sold 360's. And at more than $500 for most of that year.
Well Sony's announcement was "as of December 1st." So that includes the 15th of November through the 30th, 16 days of sales.
The multiple country thing doesn't matter much either though. It's not like releasing in more countries magically increases your production supply.
110k vs. 130k is a decent difference though. 17% or so.
Could be Sony "selling out faster," had more units piled up, or slightly higher production capacity.
PS4 is undeniably killing it popularity wise in Europe though. I think if both consoles production rates were unlimited PS4 would have had quite a bit larger of a launch just considering how Europe has such a hard-on for it.
I'm glad it's turning out to be a close race, at least so far. If it had been a blowout out of the gate, I don't think that would've been good for the site or for game fans. It might've put a grin on Sony fans' faces, but otherwise, I think it would've been bad. You would have a lopsided contest, with one side dominating the other, one side a clear winner and the other a "loser."
A close race is always more interesting than a blowout. A fight between two closely-matched fighters is always a better fight than one where there is a knockout in the first round.
A close race is always more interesting than a blowout. A fight between two closely-matched fighters is always a better fight than one where there is a knockout in the first round.
Fair enough. I interpreted "as of Dec 1" to include that day. Regardless, a one day difference isn't a huge difference.
Well said Anderson.
With Wii U tanking with little signs of catching up to X1's/PS4's momentum, one system (PS4 going by gaming forum hype) blowing away the other would be lousy. The generation just started so if game makers suddenly adjusted all the projects to be focused only on one console (any maybe PC too), it would be bad for gamers down the line.
Quite possible.. so many articles, took forever to find a link to the actual PR. Numerous articles said "in the month of November."
But yeah, you are right.. "as of the 1st" would theoretically include the 1st, since they announced this on the 3rd. Would make sense too since it was only out in EU on the 29th, so that extra day probably did matter. Might have been when they went past 2 million.
So I think you are right, 17 days. 10% or so difference.
No doubt, PS4 should be winning regardless. Not even factoring in price, hype or staggered dates.... PS4's 19 more countries alone should extend the lead further until X1 launches in more countries in 2014.... unless some kind of production meltdown for Sony happens. But as long as both are humming similar in production, PS4 should theoretically gain more ground until more X1 territories are launched. And Japan should be a slam dunk for PS4. PS4 will probably outsell X1 10:1.
I don't know exactly the country vs country comparison, but it seems all of X1's 13 countries are covered by PS4 (I think). So the other 19 are purely incremental territory from a geographical standpoint. According to Wiki, PS4 will be launching in another 5-6 more countries in Dec too. So by end of Dec, PS4 will be in about 25 more countries.
IMO, given all the circumstances, PS4 should be ahead by more at this time but it's actually pretty close.
Not really, at least not until MS stops selling out in their regions.
Both are selling out their production capacity. Doesn't matter if they ship to 1 country or 100 countries.
Sony has more potential to continue to sell out theoretically, but it'll take a while before that comes to fruition.
Your Math is kinda off on this.. again.. releasing in more countries doesn't magically produce more units to sell. It just increases the amount of people you are selling too. So as long as MS is selling out Sony doesn't have some advantage being in more regions.
I get what you're saying. I'm just thinking that the more and more countries available for PS4 may influence some potential X1 buyers waiting to just skip it and go for PS4 as it's there. A shifting of sentiment. Even if it means getting on a PS4 wait list, I'm sure many gamers will follow the hype.
Also, I'm making an assumption that any company willing to expand marketability of their product across so many markets will have additional production capacity to fulfill demand (at least some of the extra demand). Like any console launch, demand is red hot at the beginning, continues through X-mas, but then dies off a bit. That's when production capacity can play catch up.
Yes, yes there were. And I usually don't called consolewar fans or anyone out. But you know
And what direction would that be?... They already HAVE multimedia functions at full steam ahead, as well as Kinect included... yet STILL have the exclusives, while competition is lacking in that dept, IMO. How can they change directions, I'm curious?
Doubt it as they know that is extremely necessary. In fact they have more studios now working on new IPs than they had during the 360 lifecycle.
Yes, yes there were. And I usually don't called consolewar fans or anyone out. But you know
They could have put Xbox on a literal brick and sold 800,000 out of the gate.
The same direction they have taken the last few generations. Invest heavily in exclusives in the beginning of the generation to draw folks in and then a divest from that practice late in the generation and allow third parties to carry the water.