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Does it stay like that after a couple days of your PC being on?
My PC almost never gets turned off, so yes, yes it does. If your memory usage is steadily going up and you aren't opening more programs or are idling essentially, you absolutely have a memory leak somewhere.
 
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I have a program installed that has a game mode that stops a bunch of different services. I'm going to try that and hope that it shutsdown whatever the service is that's causing the leak. I also shutdown some apache server that was running on the PC that was required by a program I no longer use. I'll see if the used ram keeps growing.

Just reboot when switching programs.
I always do
So you have the same problem?
 

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Just reboot when switching programs.
I always do
That's what consoles are for. If your PC needs to reboot because you're playing something different than before you either need a s***ton more memory or need to get a handle on background processes sapping your resources.
 

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Yeah, I don't know why, but it seems like with every PC I've owned I've had to restart after a few days.

Anyway, so I see these 5GB/s SSDs for like $200 and I'm thinking I must be missing something. Is it really that easy to match the lowest common denominator SSD for next gen?

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I should have had mine revoked a long time ago.

For starters, I play with an Xbox 360 controller, I only play a select few strategy games with a mouse and keyboard. Second, I had my screen set to "Gamemode" for the past few years and I was shocked to see how great the picture looked after I turned that crap off.
 

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I mean that depends on what kind of person you are. If you upgrade every year and don't care about NVMe as much then it doesn't matter at this point in time. Lots of people will upgrade to Z490/ intel 10th gen and that doesn't have PCI-E 4.0
From what I understand Comet Lake S CPU's from Intel don't support PCIE 4.0 speeds. However, there are Intel based boards out now that support it and will be added in future bios updates. A la around the time Rocket Lake Intel CPU's come out.
 

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Yeah, I don't know why, but it seems like with every PC I've owned I've had to restart after a few days.

Anyway, so I see these 5GB/s SSDs for like $200 and I'm thinking I must be missing something. Is it really that easy to match the lowest common denominator SSD for next gen?



I should have had mine revoked a long time ago.

For starters, I play with an Xbox 360 controller, I only play a select few strategy games with a mouse and keyboard. Second, I had my screen set to "Gamemode" for the past few years and I was shocked to see how great the picture looked after I turned that crap off.
A little late to this convo, but yeah that is odd. Mine looks like this...


Anyway....you also might have some standby memory eating up space. Windows 10 has a known bug where it will not release standby memory. Might want to look into your Resource Monitor.

You should have little to no standby memory...here is mine..
 
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On a fresh restart.

I had something called Intelligent Standby List Cleaner on my PC that I didn't have set to autostart. I didn't think it was doing anything since I still had high ram usage.

Edit: I noticed eVo7 has almost no paged memory after the PC has been on for days. I don't necessarily know what it means that he has so much more "cached" memory than me.
 
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On a fresh restart.

I had something called Intelligent Standby List Cleaner on my PC that I didn't have set to autostart. I didn't think it was doing anything since I still had high ram usage.
Yeah that is a program that cleans your standby memory to combat that Windows 10 bug I was referring to. However, it must be configured properly to have any effect or you can put it on a scheduler by way of the task manager. However, at least judging from the screenshot of your PC you have 4 gigs of standby memory that is effectively not being used by programs and not freed up.
 

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Yeah that is a program that cleans your standby memory to combat that Windows 10 bug I was referring to. However, it must be configured properly to have any effect or you can put it on a scheduler by way of the task manager. However, at least judging from the screenshot of your PC you have 4 gigs of standby memory that is effectively not being used by programs and not freed up.


I could never figure out good settings for it.
 

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I could never figure out good settings for it.
TBH I have never used a program that clears your standby memory. Usually it can be cleared by a clean reboot of your computer and then monitor your memory usage. Are you playing alot of games using launchers like Origin, Epic Games Launcher, etc? They have settings in them that can eat up memory wholesale. I know Origin is a big offender and you need to turn off alot of the in game and cloud saving features to tackle memory consumption.
Also...just a general rule of thumb it is always better to have 'cached memory' than 'paged memory.'

Without getting too technical paged memory is your physical memory that can spill over into your much slower page file so you don't want to over extend your memory budget because then you have your computer pulling slower memory to compensate. That will definitely cause issues with game fluidity and just general system responsiveness. Cached memory is memory that is used for speeding up file access system wide.
Honestly it it were me I would look at my page file. I would look at decreasing it or setting it to its default value so that way Windows doesn't lean on it in case you go over your memory budget.
 
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Decided to upgrade my gaming PC. It was still on a devils canyon i7-4790K @ 4.4. That CPU was still killing it, but It was running into some CPU bottlenecks with my 2080TI.

Should be a nice IPC upgrade.

Motherboard is arriving on Wednesday.
I did the same earlier in the year, except I went with a Ryzen 3800X
 
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I did the same earlier in the year, except I went with a Ryzen 3800X
Nice! My next build I'm definitely going with a Ryzen CPU. I'm also hanging on to my 2080Ti for a while longer. I've gotten some good mileage out of it since I got it at launch and unless the 3080TI is DRASTICALLY more powerful (like 60-70%) I'm probably going to skip this coming GPU release and wait for the 4080 TI.
What I'm looking forward to is PCIE 4.0. and the Z490 motherboard I ordered will be getting a bios update that supports it when it releases.
 

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Nice! My next build I'm definitely going with a Ryzen CPU. I'm also hanging on to my 2080Ti for a while longer. I've gotten some good mileage out of it since I got it at launch and unless the 3080TI is DRASTICALLY more powerful (like 60-70%) I'm probably going to skip this coming GPU release and wait for the 4080 TI.
What I'm looking forward to is PCIE 4.0. and the Z490 motherboard I ordered will be getting a bios update that supports it when it releases.
I'm with you, unless the 3080Ti is 60-70 % better I'll hold off. Cause with Nvidia having no competition in that space, I expect it to cost a premium.

I repurposed my 4790K into a HTPC. Got alot of mileage out of it and I was kinda sad to let it go.
 

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Rumors are saying that the top tier 3000 series card will have a tdp of 350w.

RTX 3080 is rumored to be 320w.
Those things are gonna love water then. I just upgraded a few months ago and I don't care about Ray Tracing. So i doubt I will be doing another upgrade to 3000 series.
 

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I know this isn't as super impressive as a new cpu, gpu or ssd but I just replace my cpu cooler fan with a Noctua NF-A12x25 ULN fan. Before when my cpu would heat up, you could hear the fan going. Now, its whisper quiet. Yay me.
 

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Well I've run into a problem. While playing Borderlands 3, my PC shut completely off. And would not shut back on for a few minutes even after unplugging the PSU and plugging it back in. Checked the GPU temps before the shut down and it was 63 C. Checked the cpu temps and it was 67C. Tried Assassin's Creed Odyssey. After about an hour same thing. Temps not looking crazy at all.

Ran OCCT and did a power stress test. It ran for 4 hours with no problem with the GPU and CPU at 100% load. GPU temps got to 63C, CPU temps got to 83C. As soon as I ended the test, my PC cut itself off. Since its pandemic season and I've got time on my hands, going to swap out the PSU since its about 9.5 years old and swap out my CPU cooler for something beefier. I'm hoping that the main issue was the PSU and not the motherboard itself as those are becoming hard to replace right now.
 

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Well I've run into a problem. While playing Borderlands 3, my PC shut completely off. And would not shut back on for a few minutes even after unplugging the PSU and plugging it back in. Checked the GPU temps before the shut down and it was 63 C. Checked the cpu temps and it was 67C. Tried Assassin's Creed Odyssey. After about an hour same thing. Temps not looking crazy at all.

Ran OCCT and did a power stress test. It ran for 4 hours with no problem with the GPU and CPU at 100% load. GPU temps got to 63C, CPU temps got to 83C. As soon as I ended the test, my PC cut itself off. Since its pandemic season and I've got time on my hands, going to swap out the PSU since its about 9.5 years old and swap out my CPU cooler for something beefier. I'm hoping that the main issue was the PSU and not the motherboard itself as those are becoming hard to replace right now.
Sounds like a PSU issue to me. On a hunch if you can while the computer is on check the Event Viewer app in Windows. Even though it doesn't offer very specific info, if it is a Kernal Power error you can be at least 90% sure.
 
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Sounds like a PSU issue to me. On a hunch if you can while the computer is on check the Event Viewer app in Windows. Even though it doesn't offer very specific info, if it is a Kernal Power error you can be at least 90% sure.
Will do. Still waiting on the PSU to get here. Amazon and Microcenter supplies are still low and I had to snag the only one I could find.