Official Thread Pillow Fight that nobody wins with MOAR Jackie Chan and guys comfortable with STRETCHING their sexuality!

Status
Not open for further replies.
That new DF video was pointless, he didn't explain anything in any greater detail than the original Cerny talk did he just repeated a lot of it and then did a meaningless comparison between non RDNA 2 cards, oh well I guess they need views.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Frozpot
Sorry, no link. I pulled these screen grabs from another site. Thoughts?

View attachment 2879
View attachment 2880
View attachment 2881
View attachment 2882

This is so stupid, we barely saw glimpses of launch titles of the PS4 in February 2013 and we also didn't see the actual console until June of 2013, don't fall for this kind of crap. People are trying to make something out of the fact that Sony and MS are using different marketing strategies, people that do this want attention for themselves so they try to find things to point to that they think will support their fake narrative. We haven't seen any XSX gameplay either all we have seen are "in engine" videos which are always bulls*** no matter who's presenting them so what's the reasoning there? I could make a bulls*** post about how that must mean devs are having a hard time with it but it wouldn't be true, this guy is just trying to bank on people not totally understanding Sony's approach because it's not exactly the same as what was done last gen.
 


From the looks of the games he makes they look fairly small and simple, not sure what his experience is in AAA game development. I've seen some devs make comments about loading the entire game into memory, how many games would fit into 10GB-13GB of ram? and if so being that the XSX uses different speeds for their memory set up how would that impact a game that tried to do that?
 
And audio. Well, and play PS exclusives. That's always the hill to die on.
No, the audio will be as good or better on Series X, and Series X *could* run any exclusive Sony makes. It *won't* because of policy, but it *could*.

Again, there's nothing the PS5 can do that the Series X cannot, and all cross platform games will be superior on the X.

It's not complicated.

Anyone trying to make that reality more complex has an agenda, and is ultimately wasting time.

It's simple. Series X is better hardware. Period. Done. Move on. Yes, cross plats will always be superior on the Series X.

But PS5 will be a comparable machine, and will run games very well too. The cross plat improvements on Series X games over their PS5 counterparts won't be very meaningful, and Sony will have beautiful exclusive games to showcase their hardware. Sony fans have plenty to look forward to and be excited about...

...but hardware superiority is not one of them. Sony has lost that battle. It's over. Clearly and demonstrably. Move on.
 
Last edited:
No, the audio will be as good or better on Series X, and Serues X *could* run any exclusive Sony makes. It *won't* because of policy, but it *could*.

Again, there's nothing the PS5 can do that the Series X cannot, and all cross platform games will be superior on the X.

It's not complicated.

Anyone trying to make that reality more complex has an agenda, and is ultimately wasting time.

It's simple. Series X is better hardware. Period. Done. Move on. Yes, cross plats will always be superior on the Series X.

But PS5 will be a comparable machine, and will run games very well too. The cross plat improvements on Series X games over their PS5 counterparts won't be very meaningful, and Sony will have beautiful games to showcase their hardware. Sony fans have plenty to look forward to and be excited about...

...but hardware superiority is not one of them. Sony has lost that battle. Clearly and demonstrably.
Agenda?
This post has agenda written all over it!

Hey!
Don't sell XSX $100 more than PS5 or it will be a blood bath.
Don't say I didn't warn you!
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Flynn and lowdru2k


Check the tweets that Schreier pulled up from that guy, he's not to be taken seriously at all.


At this point, I'll wait for the eventual DF teardowns of the consoles and the game comparison vids.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JinCA
At this point, I'll wait for the eventual DF teardowns of the consoles and the game comparison vids.

That's probably for the best, I'm not taking any of these things all that seriously until we see real games being played which is probably still going to be a little while. I have no doubt both consoles are going to put out great looking/performing games and as I've said for months now (even when most rumors were that the PS5 was more powerful) I don't think the power gap is going to mean much.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Frozpot and Rollins
I don't think the power gap is going to mean much.
Agreed. Although it is nice for Xbox that they are coming in confident and excited, and aren’t starting off the generation DOA like last time.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: JinCA
Agreed. Although it is nice for Xbox that they are coming in confident and excited, and aren’t starting off the generation DOA like last time.

Yeah having one of them stumble out isn't a good thing for the industry, both of them coming out strong and doing well is going to be better for all involved. I don't think MS will come anywhere near Sony in global sales but I do think they could do a lot better in the US and UK than they did this gen, it won't be like the 360 where they trounced Sony in the US but can see a situation where they could basically be tied.

MS has some nice hardware and now it's time for them to bring the games, Spencer has been talking about that since the X1X launched and they really haven't done much when it comes to game releases to change the narrative but hopefully that changes fairly quickly once the new gen starts, especially when it comes to AAA single player games. I was 95% sure I wouldn't buy both consoles next gen but if MS does a good job with that new fable game they are supposedly making and a few more exclusive that interest me I could see myself buying one, I just wouldn't do it for 3rd party games that are marginally better on a technical level because those are already going to look great on PS5.
 
Last edited:
No, the audio will be as good or better on Series X, and Serues X *could* run any exclusive Sony makes. It *won't* because of policy, but it *could*.

Again, there's nothing the PS5 can do that the Series X cannot, and all cross platform games will be superior on the X.

It's not complicated.

Anyone trying to make that reality more complex has an agenda, and is ultimately wasting time.

It's simple. Series X is better hardware. Period. Done. Move on. Yes, cross plats will always be superior on the Series X.

But PS5 will be a comparable machine and will run games very well too. The cross plat improvements on Series X games over their PS5 counterparts won't be very meaningful, and Sony will have beautiful games to showcase their hardware. Sony fans have plenty to look forward to and be excited about...

...but hardware superiority is not one of them. Sony has lost that battle. Clearly and demonstrably.
slow down Flynn, the suicide rate just went up again.
 
Fully expect Sony to take next generation in sales again. However I also believe that Microsoft is going to clawback significant marketshare as long as they actually produce good exclusives.
No way around it.
If MS prices XSX right it will be a actual battle this gen.

Both sides would benefit and those who buy both even more so.
 
Here are a couple of quotes from Matt on resetera who actually knows what he's talking about, I know most people know this but a few seem to be having a hard time with it.

The systems will end up being closer than the PS4 vs. XBO or X vs. Pro.

Sorry, I just meant in the end and overall across their entire libraries, we’ll see the PS5 and SX were closer to each other than those other systems.

I just don’t want to make a statement like ”every single game will be within x% difference” or something, because there are always aberrations. Maybe for some specific engines and designs the PS5 will more than make up it’s power deficit with the SX. It’s happened with the One and the Pro, however rarely. And maybe for other very specific games the SX will just crush the PS5. Also an edge case, but not completely impossible.
 
Daaaaamn! Sony fans still trying to close that power gap with imagination and mental gymnastics? Gotta take the L and be happy with what Sony IS able to deliver. It'll be stellar as well. Hell, next gen sounds crazy in general. I cant wait!
 
Here are a couple of quotes from Matt on resetera who actually knows what he's talking about, I know most people know this but a few seem to be having a hard time with it.

Everyone can keep going back and forth but in the end, the systems will be separated by how well 1st and 2nd party take advantage of the hardware. The casual gamer will determine most powerful console by who's games look prettier in commercials. Microsoft has given their devs a computational advantage. Sony devs are further ahead in being able to focus on next gen only games and work with more mature tools.

I don't see any world where PS5 is more performant but it seems like a waste to keep focusing there. We'll never prove it when Sonys devs have been aiming for next gen with more mature tools longer. It'll be 2 years before Microsft can demonstrate the power gap with their 1st party. By then, probably doesn't matter. What matters is that we have real competition in terms of 1st part devs for the first time in awhile.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: karmakid
The variable frequency of the PS5 and power management thing behind it just confuses the hell out of people. There may be a good idea behind it but it’s under cut when DF says developers are maximizing the GPU at the expense of the CPU thus confirming the max power is in theory only.
 
  • Informative
  • Agree
Reactions: Kvally and karmakid
In the DF video.... DF says that Mark says both the CPU and GPU will run max speed most of the time.
Are we really going to continue to make things up?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.