And that is a pipedream, by the end of 2014 the WiiU will be in a bad place sales wise.
PlayStation 4 and Xbox One resolution discussion.
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If there is ever a time for a Boobie shake, it would be now.
Hmmm... X1 on shelves for one year, Wii U for two years. A possibility Wii U will sell more.
Interestingly, I've seen you make this claim before, but have never said anything like.... what about X1 vs Wii U sales by end of 2015 or longer , which will make the on shelf comparison at 3 vs 2, 4 vs 3, 5 vs 4 etc...
For a friendly bet, I'll take it a step further, I say Wii U sells more units than PS4 by end of 2013. PS4's massive sellout should be a slam dunk for millions of sales while Wii U is barely selling any.
If you honestly think the X1 is dead in the water right from launch then sorry but you need to give your head a shake. Nintendo f'ed up with the WiiU, it has no interest, no hype, nothing to propel it forward but a couple of first party franchises. It doesn't have the je na sais quoi that the Wii had. By the end of the launch window (so march or so next year) I'd say both the X1 and PS4 will have met or exceeded the WiiU's total sales.By 2015 it will be even more likely..I can make that claim
You really think the WiiU has a chance? Sorry I just don't see it, they had a dismal launch, and it's only fizzled out since then. They will probably get some sales during the holidays of course, but outside of that I don't see them getting much between this holiday season and next holiday season, especially with all the top games coming out on better platforms, Nintendo's 1st party games just aren't cutting it anymore
Wii was popular because it appealed to people who wouldn't normally play video games. Not because core gamers enjoyed it. I'm a firm believer that core gamers actually enjoy nice graphics. Do you consider yourself a core gamer? would you be happy with only a Wii? I doubt it.
Not sure it would be entirely fair to compare games that have a year apart in launch time, a year in which the devs can use to get more aquainted with the tools, not working on a moving target, and possibly more mature updated tools as well.
In all seriousness If MS can get the ipad parent to jump to the XBO then I could be wrong.
I am betting otherwise though.
Ok then, Well only time will tell. No matter what happens I'm going to have fun playing games
I think though that MS's approach has been to target the 'ipad parent' as you put it, and families in general. The obviously had their eyes set on broadening their target market so we will have to see if that pays off. If MS can do what everything thinks they are doing (making that singular ecosystem with shared marketplaces and bringing W8 games/apps to the X1) then I think they might have a really good shot at it.
Good read. As usual, MS responds in a tactful manner while Sony execs keep their mouth shut absorbing all the anti-MS posts. I'd do the same. Sony has an advantage of more loyal defenders. The 1.5 patch forcing an internet patch to do basic features, and no resume/suspend is already an after thought despite MS publicly telling gamers a day 1 patch is needed well in advance 4 months ago, yet they got yelled at.
Two different corporate mindsets and two different consumer mindset. Not surprisingly, that leads to two different marketing/PR strategies.
Two different corporate mindsets and two different consumer mindset. Not surprisingly, that leads to two different marketing/PR strategies.
Ok then, Well only time will tell. No matter what happens I'm going to have fun playing games
I think though that MS's approach has been to target the 'ipad parent' as you put it, and families in general. The obviously had their eyes set on broadening their target market so we will have to see if that pays off. If MS can do what everything thinks they are doing (making that singular ecosystem with shared marketplaces and bringing W8 games/apps to the X1) then I think they might have a really good shot at it.
Well the ipad parent usually pays $400-$600 so it is possible that those parents will drop $500 on a all in one game machine(as XBO offers allot).
I don't see families in general doing it though...
He works for MS, of course he'd say that
Sorry, had to. In all seriousness I am really impressed with AP's fortitude and togetherness that he puts in his posts, with the way GAF/twitter treats him I would have blown up at them by now. He keeps his professionalism the best he can, definitely a better PR face than Mattrick
I think you are going to be very upset when X1 comes out on top at the end of the next gen cycle.
Price will drop over time as it's BoM drops, and with MS's economies of scale that BoM should drop quick enough to see a price drop within the first 2 years.Drop that price and they reach a much broader spectrum.
After over 30 years of playing and following gaming I can tell you without any doubt in my mind.......
THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
I have a feeling you would have said the same thing 8 years ago regarding the Wii if you were told the same thing
I have a feeling you would have said the same thing 8 years ago regarding the Wii if you were told the same thing
nope cause Wii was around $200 cheaper... I hoped it would have ended fast though.(loathe it)
The X1 doesn't have to 'win'. The PS4 does. If the PS4 doesn't utterly dominate the X1, Microsoft wins by default because Sony will go bankrupt.
Sony like Microsoft is under intense pressure to sell off the PlayStation division.
$150 cheaper USD
although over $200 for me. My 360 launch unit was $500 in Canada..probably why the price this time doesn't phase me
Then have a talk with those that started the agenda, not those who are tired of the cr@p being spun.
I think you interpreted my comment as some kind of warning. No, I'm just commenting on the fact that people are doing a lot of fanboy bickering. No rule against that. It's a bunch of arguing about trivia, but I guess that's what people who enter a thread like this are interested in participating in, so have at it. We shut down the tickle fight thread, so this stuff has to erupt somewhere.
I'm sorry, didn't mean to come off as combative to you. Just usually when you do say things (and usually appropriately I will add), I just hope the correct "surveillance" takes place.
We're good. I know you're not out for me personally, at least as far as I know.
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