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You know those things are going to cost like $230 each right? that's what that leaked pricing thing shows, of course it could be wrong but a 1TB proprietary SSD isn't going to be cheap regardless and hot swapping would mean you've filled your internal storage AND bought more than one of those external proprietary SSD's, how much are you going to spend?
You can always just hook up a cheaper external SSD or HDD and swap back and forth with the internal drive, if that's a huge deal to you that's fine but I don't think most people are going to care about that when the alternative is spending hundreds of dollars more. Neither console includes enough storage but they gave us something much better instead that will actually impact game design and in some ways performance instead of just a bigger place to store games.
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I've said it before but I have a 2TB SSD hooked up to my PS4 Pro and I have over 46 games on it, I'm guessing we'll be able to fit 15 or so PS5 games on the internal storage and that should be more than enough for most people to be able to play whatever they are interested in at that time. Of course in a perfect world these new high end SSD's would be cheap and they could give us 6TB of storage but that's just not the reality we live in. I know some people thought we'd be getting 2-4TB HDD's, most of us never believed they'd actually include SSD's in the consoles but they did and while there are a lot of benefits to doing that the only real drawback is less space to hold our games but if having access to 15 games at once isn't enough for someone they've got problems lol.
If I have to spend X amount of dollars to get a solid external option that stacks up with my internal storage...
That's great.
Having to spend X amount and replace my internal isn't great,it sux actually.
If it’s an mmo then “whatevs...pffft” I can wait, if I remember.
but weird they, square, didn’t make a bigger thing about
They're not going to match that, but at the price of that, that's going to come at a cost.
You don't HAVE to replace either one that's the point, you can delete and download again OR get a cheaper external option and swap back and forth etc. It's not like they are only going to fit 2 or 3 games on the internal storage, you'll be able to have enough games loaded on there that everything you are currently playing should be available plus more unless you are crazy and play 20 different games in a weekend.
If the rumors are true buying two of those external xbox SSD's will basically cost as much as a Series X.
i really hope there’ll be a third party solution, even if it’s some funky adapter
$150 more than Bloomberg reported it to be?
Sony Is Struggling With PlayStation 5 Price Due to Costly Parts
Scarce components have pushed the manufacturing costs for Sony Corp.’s next PlayStation to around $450 per unit, forcing a difficult price-setting decision in its battle with Microsoft Corp., according to people with knowledge of the matter.
www.bloomberg.com
I think it will cost $599 but I think they will do $549 but they might do $499 aka let me cover all bases so I can be right
But I will say if it cost them that much they made some serious mistakes.
Sony ALWAYS have a mic drop. But the fact that Sony has kept a very tight lid on their plans and the console, this is where things get tricky. I told you, these guys are notorious for shooting high and coming out of left field, so it's going to be interesting to see what they've been holding to their chest.
His credit went out the window long ago when he was spreading lies to balance the negative news but was later fact checked by developers.
Article is from Feb, and doesn’t seem to factor in packing costs, shipping, etc. That’s still a big discrepancy, even with those things, but who knows.
I’m still thinking the rumors of them wanting to launch last year, then trying to upclock what they had due to the XSX reveal, are probably true. The need for a new cooling solution, the overall size of it, the delay rumors from last year (And even ones around this year), and these cost rumors all add up if that story is true.
In the end, it’ll be a runaway success and none of this will matter, but now I’m even more curious to see the price, especially since MS already showed their hand.
I can’t even guess, other than to say there is no way it’s less then $499.
It isn't factoring it in just like it isn't factoring in $380 for PS4 so if its accurate $600 isn't justified. I wouldn't really say there are all these "cost rumors" either as twitter is filled with claims of it costing every amount you can think of because people make stuff up for insider cred.
I think even if they wanted to launch in 2019 at some point it wouldn't mean too much in terms of whatever the price ends up being. Especially since they obviously never made any serious attempt at it.
They also doubled their production and have talked up wanting people to make the switch faster than ever. That isn't happening at $600 in a pandemic. If they go $600 they will lose a noticeable amount of marketshare to Xbox for sure and they will deserve to.
If you think the storage is expensive for XSX, prepare for an even more expensive memory solution for the PS5. That is much more expensive tech than what MS is using.
The cost rumors have been going around for awhile, plus what I heard personally. It’s an industry, people talk.
As far as the delays go, how would we know how hard they tried?? There have been multiple rumors about part shortages going back to 2018:
PS5 Launch Possibly Delayed? Initially Expected Launch In 2019 – Pokde.Net
Many people have started to speculate when the PS5 will officially be launched. According to a well-known analyst, the console's launch might be delayed.
pokde.net
And that doesn’t even take into account the cooling rumors that came after.
I agree completely on your last part. If they end up with $599 after MS’s reveals, I’ll be fully convinced they had some significant cost/production issues, because asking $50-100 more for a weaker system would be crazy otherwise, especially after the OG X1 launch.
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They didn't upclock for Xbox, Matt at resetera said this was always Sony's plan and the redtech guys even pointed out you couldn't do that kind of change in a year, it's a silly thing to believe in. Just like the people who think github was talking about a finished product when RT hadn't been added yet etc, it was old unfinished hardware that was being tested but too many people who don't know what they are talking about take stuff and run with it because it fits the narrative they want to be true.
That's reality, spend $240 for 1GB of plug and play storage (less than 1GB usable) or spend less than half of that for 5 times as much storage on an external HDD and swap back and forth when you need to. Again you won't be playing more than 15 games at any one time. It's not ideal but the only other alternative was not including SSD's at all. If it's that big of a deal at some point you'll be able to replace the internal PS5 drive but I'm sure it's going to be insanely expensive if you want to buy a replacement large enough to make it worth it.
The coast rumors have been going around for awhile, plus what I heard personally. It’s an industry, people talk.
As far as the delays go, how would we know how hard they tried?? There have been multiple rumors about part shortages going back to 2018:
PS5 Launch Possibly Delayed? Initially Expected Launch In 2019 – Pokde.Net
Many people have started to speculate when the PS5 will officially be launched. According to a well-known analyst, the console's launch might be delayed.
And that doesn’t even take into account the cooling rumors that came after.
I agree completely on your last part. If they end up with $599 after MS’s reveals, I’ll be fully convinced they had some significant cost/production issues, because asking $50-100 more for a weaker system would be crazy otherwise, especially after the OG X1 launch.
Those rumors may have been going on for awhile but it only means something when the source is credible. Many of these people are completely full of it. Even if its $600 its still people BSing. Dusk Golem has some credibility but even he is covering his bases so can't be wrong.
Well that article is just speculation. It isn't anyone saying it was delayed. Nothing about the game lineup suggests a system that was supposed to be out a year ago even if it was option that was on the table at some point.
Options>No options
The life of the SSD is greatly shortened by deleting and installing over and over.
Oh come on! The specs weren't unveiled from any of the competitors until this year. How could Sony possibly copy anything let alone launch it? Heck, just based on what they currently have on the GPU alone absolutely destroys this assumption.
And what cooling solution? If you are talking about that patent, that thing is like 3 years old WHEN IT WAS FILED. At minimum, a patent takes 1 year to be granted. With that being the case, Sony obviously had the idea all alone IF they even decide to use that patent. People can't be this petrified.
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The coast rumors have been going around for awhile, plus what I heard personally. It’s an industry, people talk.
As far as the delays go, how would we know how hard they tried?? There have been multiple rumors about part shortages going back to 2018:
PS5 Launch Possibly Delayed? Initially Expected Launch In 2019 – Pokde.Net
Many people have started to speculate when the PS5 will officially be launched. According to a well-known analyst, the console's launch might be delayed.
And that doesn’t even take into account the cooling rumors that came after.
I agree completely on your last part. If they end up with $599 after MS’s reveals, I’ll be fully convinced they had some significant cost/production issues, because asking $50-100 more for a weaker system would be crazy otherwise, especially after the OG X1 launch.
For them to end up at that price, the system has to be as expensive or more expensive than the competition which it is not.
They've already talked about that, how often do you think you'll be deleting games? if you have 12-15 games ready to go at any one time how often are you realistically going to have to keep deleting things? Do you buy and finish new games on a daily basis? do you plan on running out of space every day? You can either spend a ton of money on plug and play external SSD's for the Series X or spend a bunch of money on a significantly larger internal SSD for the PS5 either way you are spending around as much as a new console would cost and that just doesn't make sense when you can get a 5TB external HDD for around $100, hell if you don't have data caps you don't even have to do that you can just delete and download again later.
My external SSD is a couple of years old now, I've deleted games and downloaded games over those two years and have had NO issues with it. Regardless every game you buy has to be installed on the SSD in either console just like they did with HDD's this gen, no matter how much space you have installing and deleting is going to be a thing, these things are made for this.
I've laid out the options we have and you keep saying they aren't options, open your eyes and take your fingers out of your ears and read/listen lol. You have options, they may not be options you like but you do have options.
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