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[JinCA]

Either that or they are coming out with a Pro console that is faster than SerX.

Even then it'd only be by 1TF or so and it would just be silly to release a 9.2TF machine and a 13TF machine, I could see something around 6TF and 12TF because you get a good separation there and the hardware would basically be the same thing with just a weaker gpu and less ram and you could likely give them a $200 price difference, I just don't see the point of launching two consoles when they likely won't be more than $100 apart in price.

 

[Frozpot]

Sony launching a 9TF 'Base' PS5 and a 13TF 'Pro' PS5 make no sense. Even less if they are both RDNA2 because then the difference will be even less.
Also both Microsoft and Sony have access to the same AMD chips. Neither console is going to be significally more powerful than the other

Depends on how they want to price it. Price will dictate how different they are, imo.

 

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[menace-uk-]

What if Sony simply had two models in R&D and went with the 13TF model when MS tipped their hand? Probably not practical huh?

Seems like a stretch.

It is possible it started as 13TF but then shrunk over time due to manufacturing costs, die yields, overall consumer pricing...Not to mention future upgrades via the Pro verstion.

I mean seriously, how much can the mid gen Xbox go beyond the 12TF launch version? 15TF? Maybe a tad more?

 

[eVo7]

Seems like a stretch.

It is possible it started as 13TF but then shrunk over time due to manufacturing costs, die yields, overall consumer pricing...Not to mention future upgrades via the Pro verstion.

I mean seriously, how much can the mid gen Xbox go beyond the 12TF launch version? 15TF? Maybe a tad more?

I mean it could go as far as the architecture and MS are willing to let it. If rumors are true, RDNA2 "Big Navi" on the PC side could have up to 80 CU's.

 

[menace-uk-]

I mean it could go as far as the architecture and MS are willing to let it. If rumors are true, RDNA2 "Big Navi" on the PC side could have up to 80 CU's.

That is nothing answer though. Willing to let it is limited by many factors. The 12TF already puts it 2080ti ground...In 4 years are they really goung to get a significant jump at respectable cost?

Will a mid gen refresh even be worth it? It isn't like they can use resolution as a marketing crutch this time.

 

[Frozpot]

That is nothing answer though. Willing to let it is limited by many factors. The 12TF already puts it 2080ti ground...In 4 years are they really goung to get a significant jump at respectable cost?

Will a mid gen refresh even be worth it? It isn't like they can use resolution as a marketing crutch this time.

Considering what devs can pull from the current gen machines, I'm very, very interested to see what they do with that kind of muscle. I think the jump in standards is going to make PCs sweat bullets.

 

[menace-uk-]

Considering what devs can pull from the current gen machines, I'm very, very interested to see what they do with that kind of muscle. I think the jump in standards is going to make PCs sweat bullets.

It isn't just power either. I'm curious to see what effect the SSD has visually. The slow read times of older HDDs eithe 5400 or 7200rpm has to be a limiting factor on things like textures, right?

 

[JinCA]

If anyone was still wondering PS5 is confirmed to be RDNA2 as well by AMD (PC's and ConsoleS) Yes I know it doesn't say PS5 specifically but every other slide that said consoles had XSX and PS5 listed together, this one doesn't mention either by name but it does talk about hardware RT and both have that.

 

[Frozpot]

It isn't just power either. I'm curious to see what effect the SSD has visually. The slow read times of older HDDs eithe 5400 or 7200rpm has to be a limiting factor on things like textures, right?

Yeah, I was including all of the kinds of innovative structural techniques only affordable to consoles too. Having things like SSDs and Raytracing as standard so it can be used in the design process is pretty big. It will be interesting to see how the far less optimized PC space will handle such a jump on the high end. Most people don't have RTX 2080 cards in their PCs...

 

[menace-uk-]

Yeah, I was including all of the kinds of innovative structural techniques only affordable to consoles too. Having things like SSDs and Raytracing as standard so it can be used in the design process is pretty big. It will be interesting to see how the far less optimized PC space will handle such a jump on the high end. Most people don't have RTX 2080 cards in their PCs...

Yeah. My guess is rigs similar to Scorpio will be the base target. But yeah, given how expensive the higher tier GpUs stay on PC could cause issues. Could this be the gen where console becomes superior over PC for the majority? That would be funny.

 

[karmakid]

If anyone was still wondering PS5 is confirmed to be RDNA2 as well by AMD (PC's and ConsoleS) Yes I know it doesn't say PS5 specifically but every other slide that said consoles had XSX and PS5 listed together, this one doesn't mention either by name but it does talk about hardware RT and both have that.

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What if by consoles they mean series x and series s

 

[JinCA]

What if by consoles they mean series x and series s

Series S isn't announced And throughout the thing they mentioned "partners" and every single time they listed the consoles by name they had Xbox and PS5

Just saw this quoted on gaf

"We're on the cusp of next-generation. The next-generation consoles will use our latest Zen technology, our latest RDNA technology as well, really creating this very immersive experience with ray tracing, 3D audio, fast load times to really excite a new generation of gamers."

--AMD's Rick Bergman

 

[hrudey]

If anyone was still wondering PS5 is confirmed to be RDNA2 as well by AMD (PC's and ConsoleS) Yes I know it doesn't say PS5 specifically but every other slide that said consoles had XSX and PS5 listed together, this one doesn't mention either by name but it does talk about hardware RT and both have that.

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Obviously they mean series x and series s. (seriously, we'll see, but I expect Sony to be rdna 2)

 

[karmakid]

Series S isn't announced And throughout the thing they mentioned "partners" and every single time they listed the consoles by name they had Xbox and PS5

Just saw this quoted on gaf

I dono if it’s intentional on their part or I’m just overthinking it but they say “our latest RDNA technology” but don’t specifically say RDNA2

 

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[JinCA]

 

[Rollins]

The tweet I posted was posted after that one. Like everyone says, nothing official just yet from Sony. Hoping that it will be the case, but can’t say for sure yet.

 

[karmakid]

The tweet I posted was posted after that one. Like everyone says, nothing official just yet from Sony. Hoping that it will be the case, but can’t say for sure yet.

Yeah, more than likely to be announce by sony at their own event....if it’s soon it’ll probably be via a stream

 

[JinCA]

The tweet I posted was posted after that one. Like everyone says, nothing official just yet from Sony. Hoping that it will be the case, but can’t say for sure yet.

Regardless it's RDNA2 and if that guy is trying to infer that he knows something else especially after already tweeting that it's RDNA2 he's an ass. The PS5 has gpu accelerated ray tracing, 3D audio and fast load times all things that the guy from AMD talked about when saying they would be using their latest zen and rdna tech in next gen consoles. I know some people really think AMD is talking only about xbox consoles but that makes no sense, MS has only announced one console so far and AMD isn't going to talk about a product that isn't announced in that way, especially when every slide that said "next gen consoles" with logos included had the PS5 logo right there with xbox. This one shot just says consoles and doesn't include any logos and people on other boards who don't want PS5 to have RDNA2 for some reason keep trying to use that as evidence lol.

 

[Frozpot]

Obviously they mean series x and series s. (seriously, we'll see, but I expect Sony to be rdna 2)

Of course it is, lol. I'm pretty sure the AMD thing confirmed that. Makes sense anyway.

 

[TeKPhaN]

Martha Is Dead Dev Impressed By PS5’s Previously Unannounced Texel Density



The studio behind upcoming horror title Martha Is Dead has praised a number of PS5 features, including Texel density and its SSD. Get more details here.



https://www.psu.com/news/martha-is-dead-dev-impressed-by-ps5s-previously-unannounced-texel-density/


"The developer behind the upcoming Martha Is Dead has extolled the PlayStation 5‘s beefy horsepower, in particular highlighting its Texel density capabilities, something which hasn’t been spoken about before.

PS5 Features Praised By LKA

Speaking with the latest issue of Official PlayStation Magazine UK (April 2020, LKA’s studio head, Luca Dalco, revealed how the console’s technical capabilities allow for the studio to create eyeball-popping visuals, especially when it comes to horror games.

PS5’s specifications are incredibly exciting – particularly for us is the additional graphical power and inclusion of ray-tracing architecture. Our studio has come a long way over four years and Martha Is Dead will strive for photorealism. We’re excited to see the next-generation hardware incoming to support us bringing our vision to players.
We worked a lot in order to use the highest-resolution textures as possible also on PS4; nonetheless, PS5 will allow us to use an incredible Texel density, up to 4096px/m – that means the visual will be fully detailed also in higher resolutions. It’s one of the most important advances in visual capacity that we were waiting for.

Dalco also touched base on the PS5’s SSD, adding: “High-quality assets are naturally larger in size so will benefit from the faster loads times.”


The topic also shifted to ray-tracing, which Dalco described as an “incredible technology for independent studios, allowing games to reach new levels of realism without the need for huge teams.”


Martha Is Dead is has yet to attract a release date. Here’s some more info on the game if you’re out of the loop:

 

[Swede]

I'm surprised there's been no discussion whether the ps5 will have more or less tflops than xsx?

Discuss

 

[Larry]

I thought they were both cancelled...

 

[Rollins]

I'm surprised there's been no discussion whether the ps5 will have more or less tflops than xsx?

Discuss

Nothing announced officially, but almost guaranteed to be 9+. It’s also Navi10 so I don’t expect full RDNA2 features, most likely a custom set between 1 and 2.

Again, no official numbers, but I can back up these claims if you want to see the info.

There might also be a PS5 Pro coming, but there has been no testing of any kind to confirm this yet. I wouldn’t expect it for another 2-3 ueass

 

[SpartanDawgX1]

If that what PS5 is shaping up to be then I’m curious what caused the $450 BOM if the Bloomberg report is accurate?

 

[TeKPhaN]

More from the last news....


"Quality of PS5’s upscale to higher resolutions called ‘incredible"

Quality of PS5’s upscale to higher resolutions called ‘incredible’ | VGC

“It’s one of the most important advances we were waiting for…

www.videogameschronicle.com

“IT’S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ADVANCES WE WERE WAITING FOR,” SAYS DEVELOPER"

A third-party PlayStation 5 developer has described the quality of the next-gen console’s upscale to higher resolutions as “incredible”.

PS5 has been confirmed to support resolutions of up to 8k. However, as has become common on current console hardware, it’s likely many games will upscale their visuals from much lower, sub-4k resolutions.


According to LKA, the developer of the upcoming first-person thriller Martha is Dead, PS5 is capable of producing significantly high resolution textures that look “fully detailed” even when viewed at higher resolutions such as 4k.

While exact PS5 specifications have yet to be revealed by Sony, so far the platform holder has confirmed features such as an ultra-high speed SSD, 3D audio, Ultra HD Blu-Ray and a new controller with haptics and adaptive trigger buttons.

 

[karmakid]

More from the last news....


"Quality of PS5’s upscale to higher resolutions called ‘incredible"

Quality of PS5’s upscale to higher resolutions called ‘incredible’ | VGC

“It’s one of the most important advances we were waiting for…

www.videogameschronicle.com

“IT’S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ADVANCES WE WERE WAITING FOR,” SAYS DEVELOPER"

A third-party PlayStation 5 developer has described the quality of the next-gen console’s upscale to higher resolutions as “incredible”.

PS5 has been confirmed to support resolutions of up to 8k. However, as has become common on current console hardware, it’s likely many games will upscale their visuals from much lower, sub-4k resolutions.


According to LKA, the developer of the upcoming first-person thriller Martha is Dead, PS5 is capable of producing significantly high resolution textures that look “fully detailed” even when viewed at higher resolutions such as 4k.

While exact PS5 specifications have yet to be revealed by Sony, so far the platform holder has confirmed features such as an ultra-high speed SSD, 3D audio, Ultra HD Blu-Ray and a new controller with haptics and adaptive trigger buttons.

checkerboard 2.0 or will they give it a quirky name like CB HD?

 

[Rollins]

If that what PS5 is shaping up to be then I’m curious what caused the $450 BOM if the Bloomberg report is accurate?

Apparently the costs went up due to shortages because of the mobile market.

 

[hrudey]

checkerboard 2.0 or will they give it a quirky name like CB HD?

I think it's more a really sketchy inference by this no name publication. I don't have any reason to expect that the targets are going to be sub 4k upscaled.