Project Scorpio v4.0
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I think the value of GameStop in regards to trade ins is grossly over-valued. Yes there is a market of gamers who rely on trade-in money. If GameStop goes away, there will be other secondary markets that take their place. I'm looking forward to the day that publishers aren't beholden to satisfying retailers. Pricing will be much more flexible and there will be more creative ways for publishers to introduce new IPs once GameStop is gone.
Already nonfactual as there no 8 core Ryzen 5 CPU. Ryzen 5 is either 6 or 4 cores.
Really hoping that an upgraded Witcher 3 happens. Been tempted to go back to the game however held off due to the potential upgraded Scorpio version. I think the Xbox One version looks kinda dull compared to what Pc gamers could enjoy.
It would be cool but unless MS is handling it themselves I don't see it happening, CDPR didn't do anything for the PS4 Pro because they said they moved on to Cyberpunk. The game sold substantially better on the PS4, slightly over 3-1 so I would think if they were going to bother with upgrades of an older game they'd have done something for the PS4 Pro as well but they decided not to. It's not a matter of power but resources, the game will be a year and a half old by the time Scorpio comes out. Again I think it would be awesome if they did it, if I buy a scorpio and TW3 does get a substantial graphics upgrade I'll double dip and buy it again but I'm not very hopeful that they'll do it.
There seems to be a lot of fan fiction regarding Scorpio but there have been a few consistencies in regards to rumors that kind of make sense when developers say it's more powerful than they expected. They've know about 6TF and bandwidth for awhile.
- Some variation of Zen. 60 fps and VR won't be major talking points if this thing has a Jaguar.
- Significant efficiencies - PCs have significantly closed the gap on getting closer to the metal. A 6TF GPU will not be consistently hitting 4K 60fps with high graphical settings on new games unless it performs like something greater than a 6TF GPU.
- MS invested a lot in R&D frontend therefore won't be dealing with the typical licensing costs when they roll Scorpio into production
if u look at Ms latest mp offering in halo 5, gears 4 all pushed 60fps with scaling res. I believe this is to keep fps parity with Scorpio.
xb1 and Scorpio will always have same target fps in mp. 4k/60 Scorpio will shall see.
xb1 and Scorpio will always have same target fps in mp. 4k/60 Scorpio will shall see.
I'm not an expert on this so maybe someone else with more PC knowledge can chime in but I've read dozens of times that Nvidia teraflops and AMD teraflops aren't really the same, that AMD is generally less capable than Nvidia when comparing the same TF numbers.
Comparing teraflops is not a great way to determine power. PS3 had nearly twice the stated flops as 360 but 360 was far more efficient and balanced.
Haha could be
I've been reading this for a long time, before either of the console refreshes were even announced. The general feeling from what I've gathered is that Nvidia offers superior performance and that AMD's numbers are either inflated or their products just aren't as efficient.
nVidia smokes amdHaha could be
This is pretty much true.
It really is a result of where these companies diverged in the early to mid 2000s.
AMD was concentrating more of their efforts on the efficiency side of GPU architecture while trying to get their thermal issues sorted while NVIDIA was more about brute force GPU muscle and premium components.
This still holds mostly true today, but more blurred. This is because both companies have products that push the boundaries of what a GPU is capable of but NVIDIA is usually the first to the market with groundbreaking GPU tech. It is the same reason why their Tesla/Quadro GPUS are being used in deep learning and self driving cars as well as all the animation studios that use them.
It is also the reason they charge $3000-$6000+ for just one of them.
General rule though is that just teraflop comparisons by themselves in this day and age isn't going to be a hallmark factor when comparing Nvidia vs AMD. The teraflops can be identical but the mathematical process of how the CUDA cores on an Nvidia GPU use their power and how the Stream Processors on an AMD card do the same is fundamentally different. The comparing GPU architectures being the big difference in FLOP performances.
FLOPS is just a calculation of ([Number of cores] * 2) * [max frequency]. That is the same formula for both AMD and NVIDIA GPUs.
The exact ratio of difference between flops on AMD cards vs Nvidia cards though will never fully be calculated because again, the architectures are so different that a general consensus cannot be reached on one card being X times better during a bilateral comparison of recently released cards for both manufacturers
Gears has 60fps because for competitive play as it makes the game that much better. Halo is 60fps all round because one of the major selling points of CoD last gen was its framerate. Battlefield 3 and 4 followed and so now must everything that intends to be a serious player in the fps field. Destiny is probably the only exception but its open world so gets a pass....for now
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it is 2 block each block has 4 core
it is a modified
people seems very hard to grasp the idea of custom designed
same as XOne
at that time there is only 4 core Jag, there is no 8 core Jag
it is then revealed as 2x Block, each block hold 4 core
infact if people follow the concept
soon 1 core means cluster
infact thats what AMD recent paper said
they said 8 core as 2 core
as they meant 1 core = 1 cluster of 4 core
Although I agree with the opinion that the post was homegrown fertilizer, they could certainly have done a custom chip that is somewhere between R5 and R7 - maybe all the cores of R7 but lower clocks or some such. They certainly could also have sent me a gallon of ice cream a day for the rest of my life.
So what you're trying to say is Scorpio is going to blow everything out of the water? That's what i thought. Can't wait to play the industry's best third party games on the most powerful console of all time!
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