Agreed. Imagine getting GTA 6 marketing then adding oh yeah the PS5 Pro will be the best place to play at launch. System seller
This is cool. I'd like to see how PSSR compares to Nvidia's DLSS.
With this current gen being at they’re end of their second half, would it make sense just to call it the ps7?
Or even the ps7 is finally released, would it e compared to the case ps6 or the pro?
Could the ps7 just be the pro with smaller and more refined internals, that save Sony money in production, yet sell at the same price?
Or even the ps7 is finally released, would it e compared to the case ps6 or the pro?
Could the ps7 just be the pro with smaller and more refined internals, that save Sony money in production, yet sell at the same price?
It's 45% but that's only part of it, it'll be interesting to see what their upscaling solution is like and how much that allows for other improvements.
Someone on Neogaf wrote this up, not saying it's 100% accurate because I don't know lol.
Naturally all the "Leak Bros" on X/YouTube are running with the high floppage.
77TF - FP16 Half-Precision
33.5TF - FP32 Single Precision Dual-Issue
16.75TF - FP32 Single Precision << The traditional unit of measurement and what we need to compare it to PS5's 10.28TF.
~1TF - FP64 Double Precision
So that's a 63% jump in TF.
The 45% faster "render" which was original referred to as "raster" seems to be a bit of a miscommunication. I'm guessing this is in regards to the GPU frontend jumping from 64ROPS to 96ROPS minus a small clock reduction.
Back to the flops... That's a 63% jump in raw compute, then you can add the isolated architectural gains of RDNA3 (and some RDNA4) for an idea of real-world perf (on console you might see ~20-30%). As for dual-issue, it's hard to say for sure, but if on average, ~10% of workloads can be ran this way then that's an extra 10% of additional perf. Probably looking at ~20TF equivalent or 2X.
Then if the RT acceleration capabilities are 2x as good, then that's 4x the RT performance in ideal circumstances.
Still surprised by the 2180MHz number, I'd have thought they'd just stuck with 2233 at least, the extra 53MHz is unlikely to break the bank. I can only assume this is in Pro only mode and that in base mode it runs at 2233 with 24CUs shut off.
Or, these leaks are only reporting the low end of the Pro's Continuous Boost scheme, just as the low end of the same was reported for PS5.
Naturally all the "Leak Bros" on X/YouTube are running with the high floppage.
77TF - FP16 Half-Precision
33.5TF - FP32 Single Precision Dual-Issue
16.75TF - FP32 Single Precision << The traditional unit of measurement and what we need to compare it to PS5's 10.28TF.
~1TF - FP64 Double Precision
So that's a 63% jump in TF.
The 45% faster "render" which was original referred to as "raster" seems to be a bit of a miscommunication. I'm guessing this is in regards to the GPU frontend jumping from 64ROPS to 96ROPS minus a small clock reduction.
Back to the flops... That's a 63% jump in raw compute, then you can add the isolated architectural gains of RDNA3 (and some RDNA4) for an idea of real-world perf (on console you might see ~20-30%). As for dual-issue, it's hard to say for sure, but if on average, ~10% of workloads can be ran this way then that's an extra 10% of additional perf. Probably looking at ~20TF equivalent or 2X.
Then if the RT acceleration capabilities are 2x as good, then that's 4x the RT performance in ideal circumstances.
Still surprised by the 2180MHz number, I'd have thought they'd just stuck with 2233 at least, the extra 53MHz is unlikely to break the bank. I can only assume this is in Pro only mode and that in base mode it runs at 2233 with 24CUs shut off.
Or, these leaks are only reporting the low end of the Pro's Continuous Boost scheme, just as the low end of the same was reported for PS5.
That makes sense. Diminishing returns on raw power output really , it will be more about the extra features about hardware raytracing and AI upscaling and machine learning that I am guessing Sony is going to use and we are going to see more of their own "DLSS" upscaling methods in games which would enable more 60 fps modes with better image quality than what we have now. If it's a good quality technique I'm happy with it.
Considering we are already getting significantly sub 1080p native resolutions to hit 60 fps in some newer games, this would help a lot.
Suspect chart considering PS5 isn’t RDNA 2
It will most likely be a hybrid solution that is neither or just like the PS5 and Cerny will make it as efficient as possible with minimal bottlenecking, seeing how the PS5 punches well above its weight already I'm not too concerned about these official " RDNA X " terms.
What does that have to do with this info? This is just for info and context lol but Teraflops don't tell the whole story so they do matter to a lesser degree than last gen because you need a larger gap to make a material difference.Teraflops matter again
The Series X on paper is more powerful than the PS5 in pure Teraflops yet the PS5 often leads the Series X in performance especially in games where the Series X has a slightly higher resolution. That kind of thing just doesn't matter like it used to unless you are talking a huge gap which we don't have currently.
There are things the PS5 does better than series x and there are things the series x does better than PS5 and that's why you currently have two machines that are so close to each other in overall performance despite one having a nearly 2TF advantage over the other when it comes to theoretical GPU performance.
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Teraflops matter again
It always mattered to a certain extent but not for a standardized performance indicator especially for two consoles that are built different with some having advantages over the other in different areas.
Some people seem to keep wanting this gen to be a rerun of the One X vs the PS4 Pro for some reason, the 1.8 TF advantage is basically the same but the percentage of overall performance that 1.8 TF number represents is much smaller.
The Pro really did nothing better than the One X and it shouldn't have been expected to, it came out a year earlier, was $100 cheaper and didn't get any additional memory. As we've both said the PS5 does some things better than the Series X so when it comes to actual real-world performance a machine that has a 1.8TF advantage often times comes out on the short end of the stick when compared head-to-head. Not that it matters there either of course, the differences are always pretty negligible no matter who comes out on top.
Leak bros and floppage in the same sentence?
that’s just bad writing, it’s like the typical 2nd movie in a trilogy, always ends in a cliffhanger….pffft
Sorry, left my brain to its own devices after doing chores whilst I wait
Upscaled 4k output / 60 FPS in every game with AI Machine learning/ PSSR.
Could that then work with older games? I’m assuming that wouldn’t work with games that are streaming?