Rate PlayStation's E3 conference.....

[Frozpot]

[QUOTE the reveal ="consolewarz, post: 191478, member: 745"]That Xbox reveal was 90% tv, apps, and movies, 5% call of duty, 5% EA sports.

This conference had like 25 out of 110 minutes on their tv, movie, and app services, the rest nearly wall to wall games.

Even though the Playstation Now talk was kinda boring, it's still about video games so it doesn't fall into that category.[/QUOTE]
Except the reveal was done so that at E3, they didn't have to talk about the tv stuff. its not hard to understand. MS's E3 last year wasn't about those things. the hysteria over the reveal just bled over.

 

[Raiders87]

C

Had some nice looking games, but i just don't like how Sony handles PR and announcements.

Boring talk, patting themselves on the back and hyping Sony TV products really brings them down.
Im still not interested in buying a PS4, maybe after a few price drops.

 

[Z A C K]

Bloodborne alone beats everything MS showed combined. There's nothing like it on any other platform.

Dispute it all you want, shrug it off with a "not my kind of game" but the fact remains that no other platform will have something as unique as Bloodborne.

What do you know about the game that I don't? I don't even know what it is at all after watching that conference.

 

[Adam]

Im not following what is so unique about Bloodborne. I mean, it looks interesting and I want to play it. But I saw nothing that makes it particularly unique.

A slightly differently themed Dark Souls...not really unique.

 

[Rollins]

B or B-, depending on my mood. The '-' only because they lost momentum towards the end, and because I'm a little irritated that they *kinda* made games like GTA V, Arkham, Grim Fandango, and Mortal Kombat seem somewhat exclusive when they aren't.
I was also hoping to see actual gameplay of Uncharted (even though what they did show was exciting).
And this is just personal taste, but so far I'm more interested in MS's exclusives, with the exception of Bloodborne and a few others of course.
It just means that hopefully there will be a PS4 price drop by the time I get one

 

[Adam]

Yeah, the majority of both conferences were "These are the third party games we have exclusive DLC for"

 

[Frozpot]

I'm throwing down a C. If I'm tapping my foot with impatience then they are doing something wrong. What I don't get is why have someone stand and talk numbers or have someone talk about a show for so long and show nothing but concept art. I can't believe they didn't show more Drive Club.

I do feel a general annoyance as many others do at a lack of showing the big franchises by both companies. No Halo 5, no Gears, no Gran Tourismo( I thought they'd at least tease it). In a number of ways, it's like they just didn't have their s*** planned well.

I do think they are starting to wake up though. Last Gen was too long.

 

[Egg]

Strong C
Someone post a link to some game play of Bloodborne. Cause if all the hype is for the footage from the Sony conference then that tells you the mindset of today's gamers. All about the looks not the play. Kinda sad really.

I'm thinking I'll get the ps4 soon. Never played a uncharted or last of us. I think is time...

 

[Zcythe]

I guess I would have to give it a C+, as I had to go back and rewatch it because I fell asleep. It was boring at times, and too little gameplay was shown from the games that "matter". I'm not really commenting on the multiplats as both companies have them and showed them.

QUOTE="Hissatsu, post: 191593, member: 27"]rated it a B, same as MS show. I do give the edge to MS though if only slightly. Only because Phantom Dust 2 is amazing. I think Sony really needs a good addicting online exclusive. I also can't get that excited for Uncharted as I've never had a ps3 so I missed out on all of those games. The hype for the Halo remake is a bit silly imo too. I love Halo but I really don't give a damn about playing old ass games with old ass graphics. I'd be so much more excited if they were all getting an upgrade graphically. Halo 1 is one of my favorite games of all time, but I still don't want to play games that look like the original xbox, graphically.[/QUOTE]

Halo 1 and 2 are updated graphically.

 

[starseeker]

B. Same as MS. After seeing, I am not convince to go out & get a PS4. But its a wicked move to show Uncharted 4 at the end, to remain us that PS4 is still king when it comes to visuals (on consoles).

I skipped the TV/Media part since I watched the replay, so it may affect my score.

The TV stuff and googles are not my thing, but surprisingly, it seems Sony is the one innovating this gen, with its PS now, game rental, & the VR.....interesting.

Anyway, after looking at both conferences, as well as the ones from EA & Ubi, I am more convince upgrade to a better PC, the one platform that do not have a conference! Talk about Irony.

 

[Hissatsu]

I guess I would have to give it a C+, as I had to go back and rewatch it because I fell asleep. It was boring at times, and too little gameplay was shown from the games that "matter". I'm not really commenting on the multiplats as both companies have them and showed them.

QUOTE="Hissatsu, post: 191593, member: 27"]rated it a B, same as MS show. I do give the edge to MS though if only slightly. Only because Phantom Dust 2 is amazing. I think Sony really needs a good addicting online exclusive. I also can't get that excited for Uncharted as I've never had a ps3 so I missed out on all of those games. The hype for the Halo remake is a bit silly imo too. I love Halo but I really don't give a damn about playing old ass games with old ass graphics. I'd be so much more excited if they were all getting an upgrade graphically. Halo 1 is one of my favorite games of all time, but I still don't want to play games that look like the original xbox, graphically.

Halo 1 and 2 are updated graphically.[/QUOTE]



Really? I definitely didn't hear that during the show. I'm curious what you gave the MS show as well. They pretty much had nothing but CGI trailers even for Halo 5 which should have been coming out this year.

 

[Zcythe]

Really? I definitely didn't hear that during the show. I'm curious what you gave the MS show as well. They pretty much had nothing but CGI trailers even for Halo 5 which should have been coming out this year.

You can see my rating for MS's show in that thread and follow up with me from there if you want. Also, I posted the video from IGN about the Halo Collection in that corresponding thread as well in the Xbox area.

 

[Hissatsu]

You can see my rating for MS's show in that thread and follow up with me from there if you want. Also, I posted the video from IGN about the Halo Collection in that corresponding thread as well in the Xbox area.

Yea I just looked at your post in that thread and it pretty much was what I expected. A double standard

 

[Bgamer90]

I'm surprised at the people who can't make a distinction between MS's TV talk at their console reveal and the TV talk in this press conference. Huge difference.

That Xbox reveal was 90% tv, apps, and movies, 5% call of duty, 5% EA sports.

This conference had like 25 out of 110 minutes on their tv, movie, and app services, the rest nearly wall to wall games.

Even though the Playstation Now talk was kinda boring, it's still about video games so it doesn't fall into that category.

No, I can make a distinction fine. I'm not the one comparing E3 conferences to system reveals anyway.

MS talked about TV during their console reveal which was OK in my opinion because the reveal was for the product as a whole. E3 is a GAMING conference. Talking about media/apps during a GAMING conference is not right to me.

I rated Sony's E3 Conferences better than Microsoft's E3 conferences back in 2010-2012 when MS talked media at E3 and I would be a hypocrite if I didn't do the vice versa now with Sony talking about media for 25 minutes while MS focused 100% on games.

The app/media portion was also strangely placed and ruined the great momentum of Sony's show.

 

[Zcythe]

Yea I just looked at your post in that thread and it pretty much was what I expected. A double standard

You're one to talk, but how so?

 

[IdleHands]

MS talked about TV during their console reveal which was OK in my opinion because the reveal was for the product as a whole. E3 is a GAMING conference. Talking about media/apps during a GAMING conference is not right to me.

While I lowered my rating of Sonys conference due to all the TV/Movie/Music stuff I still feel I need to point out that this isn't just a gaming event.

It IS called the Electronic Entertainment Expo, not the Gaming Entertainment Expo. There are a lot of companies there like HyperX and such showing off nothing but hardware. So like I said to the people on streams yesterday acting like E3 is supposed to be tailored to their tastes, this show isn't about what any one person wants to see, it's about showing off everything a company has coming. While I didn't care for the TV/Movie/Music stuff and I feel they went on far too long about it I can't really fault Sony for talking about it as they're trying to compete with MS and their entertainment features, it's kind of hard to do that if people don't know they exist.

 

[Hissatsu]

You're one to talk, but how so?

It's pretty evident. I'm shocked I even need to explain it to be honest. I mean read your post in the xbox thread and what you rated the show and then read what you said in this thread and what you rated it. I just find it hilarious that you made a comment about Sony not showing gameplay yet Microsofts show was almost all cgi yet somehow Sony magically showed more cgi and deserves a lower rating because of it.

It's funny and yes I can talk. I actually liked MS show more, but I did so without the double standard.

 

[Zcythe]

It's pretty evident. I'm shocked I even need to explain it to be honest. I mean read your post in the xbox thread and what you rated the show and then read what you said in this thread and what you rated it. I just find it hilarious that you made a comment about Sony not showing gameplay yet Microsofts show was almost all cgi yet somehow Sony magically showed more cgi and deserves a lower rating because of it.

It's funny and yes I can talk. I actually liked MS show more, but I did so without the double standard.

Umm...no. The lack of gameplay was the reason I lowered MS's rating; I felt this was pretty evident in my explanation. I'm upfront about the fact that I tend to have preference for MS's exclusives, but do not make the mistake of thinking it's a double standard. I gave MS the better rating because they paced themselves and stuck to the game content like they said they would. They had more announcements that I care about as well, hence the better rating. They were classy too without taking cheap shots at the competition. To be fair, their show wasn't all CGI either:

KI Season 2: Gameplay
Sunset Overdrive: Gameplay
Fable Legends: Gameplay
Ori: Gameplay
Inside: Gameplay
Halo Collection: It was brief, but there was gameplay (I'm surprised you missed this with your lack of graphical upgrades comment) More gameplay has been shown post show too.
Project Spark: Gameplay


They should have shown gameplay for Phantom Dust, Halo 5, Crackdown, and Scalebound. They get down rated for that.

Sony's show was poorly paced by comparison. (I really did fall asleep during the non-gaming stuff and had to rewatch) As far as the games go though, Uncharted 4 looks beautiful but no real gameplay was shown. The same can be said for Bloodborn, and it is a relative unknown for me so it's hard to get excited about. The Order so far seems to fall victim to the same trap as previous Metal Gear games, watching more cutscenes then actual gameplay. It has cool potential, but I can't get excited about it without it opening up more. And I'm sorry, but I've just never cared about LBP.

Honestly, both conferences were pretty close. MS's conference got almost a full letter grade increase just for announcing Phantom Dust, something I've been waiting on for years. Take that into consideration, and they are definitely very close. Some of you people need to realize that personal preference does not equate to bias or double standards. I'm brutally honest about what I like or don't like. If that's contrary to your opinion it isn't confirmation of some nefarious agenda. Believe it or not, I don't gain anything by not liking Sony's offerings. The more games that interest me the better, but I'm not going to feign interest for someone else's benefit.

 

[Obscene Jester]

i love the OCD exaggeration going on in here. I just timed the TV segment and it was 8 minutes. Gave me a chance to pour a drink and take a leak, but I could see how if I was at the conference I would be annoyed.

 

[Z A C K]

i love the OCD exaggeration going on in here. I just timed the TV segment and it was 8 minutes. Gave me a chance to pour a drink and take a leak, but I could see how if I was at the conference I would be annoyed.

Only 8 minutes? Dam.. it felt like forever honestly.

 

[Obscene Jester]

Only 8 minutes? Dam.. it felt like forever honestly.

Well that was just the TV part. If you found the PS Now, VR and F2P stuff boring as well, that was another 20 minutes. Really I just think this Layton guy is the real reason it was a bit dull during this part. Keep that guy off stage.

 

[Hissatsu]

Umm...no. The lack of gameplay was the reason I lowered MS's rating; I felt this was pretty evident in my explanation. I'm upfront about the fact that I tend to have preference for MS's exclusives, but do not make the mistake of thinking it's a double standard. I gave MS the better rating because they paced themselves and stuck to the game content like they said they would. They had more announcements that I care about as well, hence the better rating. They were classy too without taking cheap shots at the competition. To be fair, their show wasn't all CGI either:

KI Season 2: Gameplay
Sunset Overdrive: Gameplay
Fable Legends: Gameplay
Ori: Gameplay
Inside: Gameplay
Halo Collection: It was brief, but there was gameplay (I'm surprised you missed this with your lack of graphical upgrades comment) More gameplay has been shown post show too.
Project Spark: Gameplay


They should have shown gameplay for Phantom Dust, Halo 5, Crackdown, and Scalebound. They get down rated for that.

Sony's show was poorly paced by comparison. (I really did fall asleep during the non-gaming stuff and had to rewatch) As far as the games go though, Uncharted 4 looks beautiful but no real gameplay was shown. The same can be said for Bloodborn, and it is a relative unknown for me so it's hard to get excited about. The Order so far seems to fall victim to the same trap as previous Metal Gear games, watching more cutscenes then actual gameplay. It has cool potential, but I can't get excited about it without it opening up more. And I'm sorry, but I've just never cared about LBP.

Honestly, both conferences were pretty close. MS's conference got almost a full letter grade increase just for announcing Phantom Dust, something I've been waiting on for years. Take that into consideration, and they are definitely very close. Some of you people need to realize that personal preference does not equate to bias or double standards. I'm brutally honest about what I like or don't like. If that's contrary to your opinion it isn't confirmation of some nefarious agenda. Believe it or not, I don't gain anything by not liking Sony's offerings. The more games that interest me the better, but I'm not going to feign interest for someone else's benefit.

I don't remember seeing Ki gameplay at the MS show. Unless it was the preshow or after show? definitely not during the show. Regardless, How does gameplay of a fighting game that is already released even count? same for Halo. I would hope there was gameplay of games that are older as dirt at this point. Same with Project Spark, the game is in beta and it's been at how many E3's so far? why should MS get credit for showing gameplay of it AGAIN at ANOTHER E3? lol I dunno man it just seems a bit iffy to me.

 

[Frozpot]

I don't remember seeing Ki gameplay at the MS show. Unless it was the preshow or after show? definitely not during the show. Regardless, How does gameplay of a fighting game that is already released even count? same for Halo. I would hope there was gameplay of games that are older as dirt at this point. Same with Project Spark, the game is in beta and it's been at how many E3's so far? why should MS get credit for showing gameplay of it AGAIN at ANOTHER E3? lol I dunno man it just seems a bit iffy to me.

They also showed gameplay of the Witcher 3, The Division, COD(Some care, lol), and Assassin's Creed. As well as in-game footage of Horizon 2. But I'm guessing you are referring to Exclusives? Still, I'd take that over Destiny and LBP, personally.

I'd have been more intrigued by the FarCry 4 footage if Ubi hadn't already shown the game earlier that day.

Still, I have no problems with the games Sony showed, and more with the utterly horrid pacing. I also hoped to see some grace, as they are in the dominant position this year and bad-natured pot shots at the competition isn't very classy- especially since Phil Spencer has been complimentary to them on a regular basis. They do it every year, so I should expect it, though I do like the main chubby guy. He seems very likable.

 

[Zcythe]

I don't remember seeing Ki gameplay at the MS show. Unless it was the preshow or after show? definitely not during the show. Regardless, How does gameplay of a fighting game that is already released even count? same for Halo. I would hope there was gameplay of games that are older as dirt at this point. Same with Project Spark, the game is in beta and it's been at how many E3's so far? why should MS get credit for showing gameplay of it AGAIN at ANOTHER E3? lol I dunno man it just seems a bit iffy to me.

Huh? KI Season 2 is not out yet last I checked. How is Season 2's gameplay irrelevant just because Season 1 is already out? The gameplay for Halo was remastered and updated with the new tech. I would hope that is relevant for those who are interested and want to see it. You act like MS is the only one doing a remastered release of one of their past games. Project Spark showed gameplay for new content that is coming like galaxies and champion quest, not what has been released. I don't know how you can accuse me of double standards with a post like your last one.

 

[timmy-boy]

I'd give them a B+. I thought they had the best E3 show as more games interested me. The Order demo was short but sweet (I've read there's plenty more to see), Bloodborne was cool, LBP3 was a real nice surprise. The indies like Entwined looked really awesome and the multiplats shown had great showings especially Farcry 4, and Batman. Then the remasters goddamn! GTA V coming to PS4 was an amazing surprise and The Last Of Us Remastered is something I'm eager to play having not played it already. Oh and ending with UC 4 was epic. The bit about POWERS suck but I didn't mind the PSN talk and free-to-play games. What would have made it an A? I'd say gameplay from Bloodbourne, a new I.P from someone like GG or something completely unexpected. Still a damn good show.

 

[RevitXman]

B-/C+. It was good up till they showed the TV, which annoyed me last year for MS and Sony killed the momentum of the conference. No Man's Sky was amazing at last years E3? (or was it the GOTY awards?) and again at this years E3.

 

[Hissatsu]

Huh? KI Season 2 is not out yet last I checked. How is Season 2's gameplay irrelevant just because Season 1 is already out? The gameplay for Halo was remastered and updated with the new tech. I would hope that is relevant for those who are interested and want to see it. You act like MS is the only one doing a remastered release of one of their past games. Project Spark showed gameplay for new content that is coming like galaxies and champion quest, not what has been released. I don't know how you can accuse me of double standards with a post like your last one.

Your logic is ridiculous to me. It's like you are splitting hairs. Ki season 2 is a totally new game compared to Ki season 1? no it's a damn patch. How can you even argue that? there is no logical debate to be had. Halo 2 is still halo 2 and it is not a new game, it is a very very very old game. Oh wow project spark showed a new trailer! that still doesn't change the fact that they have been showing that game for ages now and it's already out in beta. How many E3's has that game been at now? 2? 3?

You are missing the point man. For one, I am not trying to argue that sony had more gameplay of exclusives or anything else. I'm saying that Microsoft showed a ton of CGI just like Sony did. They BOTH showed a lot of CGI so to say one gets a s*** grade because of it while the other doesn't is ridiculous. Imo of course.

 

[Lnin0]

B or B-, depending on my mood. The '-' only because they lost momentum towards the end, and because I'm a little irritated that they *kinda* made games like GTA V, Arkham, Grim Fandango, and Mortal Kombat seem somewhat exclusive when they aren't.
I was also hoping to see actual gameplay of Uncharted (even though what they did show was exciting).
And this is just personal taste, but so far I'm more interested in MS's exclusives, with the exception of Bloodborne and a few others of course.
It just means that hopefully there will be a PS4 price drop by the time I get one

Woo woo woo.....what other system is Grim Fandango coming to? That was the one moment I was jealous of from the Sony conference. I also agree, they made it sound like GTA5 was exclusive .... and it seemed plausible for a minute because its another remastered version of a fairly recent 'old' game you could see maybe 2K doing it and nobody getting to upset over it. Sony even said your 360 and PS3 saves will transfer over like they had some exclusive deal. Not so.

 

[Intellivision]

Woo woo woo.....what other system is Grim Fandango coming to? That was the one moment I was jealous of from the Sony conference. I also agree, they made it sound like GTA5 was exclusive .... and it seemed plausible for a minute because its another remastered version of a fairly recent 'old' game you could see maybe 2K doing it and nobody getting to upset over it. Sony even said your 360 and PS3 saves will transfer over like they had some exclusive deal. Not so.

Unannounced. But safe to say it'll come to PC and X1. Just about every third party game comes to other platforms, with exception of games funded by MS/Sony or some indie games.

 

[Frozpot]

Unannounced. But safe to say it'll come to PC and X1. Just about every third party game comes to other platforms, with exception of games funded by MS/Sony or some indie games.

There is already a GTA 5 for X1 vid on the X1 dashboard