Sales Comparisons v. 1.7

[TDbank24]

I guess I can see why you'd want to say that now. Everyone wants to believe they knew all along but let's face it, your past here shows you were lost as lost can be. Must we go find a few of your old posts to illustrate how blind to the truth you actually were? Keep learning from me and you will keep growing, I promise you this.

Never forget, you said this mere weeks ago...


"The Xbox One has Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Halo: MCC, an advanced achievement system instead of a copy cat trophy system, a better controller. I could go on but i won't because clearly i've already won this argument. Have fun playing your overrated console with laughably better multiplats. I'll keep playing the best games this industry has to offer, not on PS4."

You're right. What was i thinking? It's way too early to give up on the Xbox One. Now you can take credit for changing my mind. Thanks for helping me see the light. The X1 has the best exclusives and in time will pull past the PS4 for #1 in sales. It's a given.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

There's an old saying that goes like this..."If you want to know how tall a building is going to be, look how deep the foundation has been dug."

Sony, bar none, has a bigger and better foundation than Microsoft does. None of this should be news to any of you.

It is funny you say that. Last gen the foundations were VERY unstable. Just like in real life the bedrock can change, and the ground can quake and then your foundations are no more.
This gen strictly speaking so far I agree. Sony has built a strong foundation, but lets not act as if it was always that way.

BTW guys lets stop with the antagonizing. Lets bring the discussion back to sales so lets curb the Uncharted 4/Britney Spears??LOLWTF/talk.

 

[This_Hard_Land]

You're right. What was i thinking? It's way too early to give up on the Xbox One. Now you can take credit for changing my mind. Thanks for helping me see the light. The X1 has the best exclusives and in time will pull past the PS4 for #1 in sales. It's a given.

Your education is not complete.

I lead you to Sony's camp and then, like a puppet, I quickly force you back to the lagging console. Where will This_Hard_Land ultimately place TDBank? Only he knows the master plan so stay tuned. lol

PS: TDBank25 is officially the little brother to This_Hard_Land's older brother.

 

[This_Hard_Land]

It is funny you say that. Last gen the foundations were VERY unstable. Just like in real life the bedrock can change, and the ground can quake and then your foundations are no more.
This gen strictly speaking so far I agree. Sony has built a strong foundation, but lets not act as if it was always that way.

I actually agree with this to a certain extent. Some foundational elements can change quickly, while others require more time.

Either way though, if you're investing in one console for the next 7 years of your life, it's best to buy the one with the better foundations.

For example, I thought Forza 5 and Titanfall looked better than any launch window PS4 games. Did I buy a One though? Hell no. I knew doing so would illustrate a short term gratification mindset on my part. Now the One is entering a massive 2015 drought and the PS4 is just getting started. Delaying gratification is so so important.

 

[bullzeye]

I actually agree with this to a certain extent. Some foundational elements can change quickly, while others require more time.

Either way though, if you're investing in one console for the next 7 years of your life, it's best to buy the one with the better foundations.

For example, I thought Forza 5 and Titanfall looked better than any launch window PS4 games. Did I buy a One though? Hell no. I knew doing so would illustrate a short term gratification mindset on my part. Now the One is entering a massive 2015 drought and the PS4 is just getting started. Delaying gratification is so so important.

Drought? There's tons to look forward to, you could try been a bit less blatant with your fanboyism it's growing tiresome.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

I actually agree with this to a certain extent. Some foundational elements can change quickly, while others require more time.

Either way though, if you're investing in one console for the next 7 years of your life, it's best to buy the one with the better foundations.

For example, I thought Forza 5 and Titanfall looked better than any launch window PS4 games. Did I buy a One though? Hell no. I knew doing so would illustrate a short term gratification mindset on my part. Now the One is entering a massive 2015 drought and the PS4 is just getting started. Delaying gratification is so so important.

Regardless of sales they are both good consoles. Trying to use sales as a justification on why someone thinks their console is superior is IMO stupid. Both will have games worth getting. This 'Drought' that you speak of hits every console at some point and time.

 

[Registered User 1]

Britney Spears??LOLWTF/talk.

LEAVE. BRITNEY. ALONE!!!

As for sales, in Australia, our market is mostly dictated by the states in regards to the release of games, but we still never get eastern games... So..

 

[David]

Xbox is better dont care what the sales say. More kits being put out, and developers are coming around to see that esram isn't like cell was for PS3.
Muktiplats are starting to be as good if not better on the 1 ( according to some posts on here) As with any new type of console it takes time to get the hang of it. The time is coming soon if not already here.

 

[Viktor]

This is totally false.

Only reason I was quiet for a while was because I was banned for being a soar winner for proving UC4's unveiling was a crock.

It was worth it.

Aka trolling. Banned from the Sony area for good reason but decide to troll post flame bait (good use of compressed Youtube footage vs direct btw) in the wrong forum anyways. Its ok though we still love you.

 

[The Wolf King]

Do not feed him.

 

[starseeker]

Regardless of sales they are both good consoles. Trying to use sales as a justification on why someone thinks their console is superior is IMO stupid. Both will have games worth getting. This 'Drought' that you speak of hits every console at some point and time.

We can all do without having to call people or their comments dumb or stupid (unless its really without a doubt trolling or without a hint of reasoning to support type of stupid) , IMO.

In my life experience, once you start call people names or their action dumb or stupid, you can forget about any meaningful conversations after. Very few people will listen to anything you said (reasonable or otherwise) once you make a personal attack on them. It will never end well. Apply to internet as well.

If you disagree with a comment, you can say you disagree & provide your reasons. Maybe he listen & agree, maybe not. If you see nothing meaningful will come out of the conversion, just let it go, & moved on.

Just something to think about.

 

[amigaengine]

We can all do without having to call people or their comments dumb or stupid (unless its really without a doubt trolling or without a hint of reasoning to support type of stupid) , IMO.

In my life experience, once you start call people names or their action dumb or stupid, you can forget about any meaningful conversations after. Very few people will listen to anything you said (reasonable or otherwise) once you make a personal attack on them. It will never end well. Apply to internet as well.

If you disagree with a comment, you can say you disagree & provide your reasons. Maybe he listen & agree, maybe not. If you see nothing meaningful will come out of the conversion, just let it go, & moved on.

Just something to think about.

what kind of BS reply is that

 

[This_Hard_Land]

We can all do without having to call people or their comments dumb or stupid (unless its really without a doubt trolling or without a hint of reasoning to support type of stupid) , IMO.

In my life experience, once you start call people names or their action dumb or stupid, you can forget about any meaningful conversations after. Very few people will listen to anything you said (reasonable or otherwise) once you make a personal attack on them. It will never end well. Apply to internet as well.

If you disagree with a comment, you can say you disagree & provide your reasons. Maybe he listen & agree, maybe not. If you see nothing meaningful will come out of the conversion, just let it go, & moved on.

Just something to think about.

starseeker just made the UnionVGF all star team. Congratulations.

 

[starseeker]

starseeker just made the UnionVGF all star team. Congratulations.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

We can all do without having to call people or their comments dumb or stupid (unless its really without a doubt trolling or without a hint of reasoning to support type of stupid) , IMO.

In my life experience, once you start call people names or their action dumb or stupid, you can forget about any meaningful conversations after. Very few people will listen to anything you said (reasonable or otherwise) once you make a personal attack on them. It will never end well. Apply to internet as well.

If you disagree with a comment, you can say you disagree & provide your reasons. Maybe he listen & agree, maybe not. If you see nothing meaningful will come out of the conversion, just let it go, & moved on.

Just something to think about.

Okay.
I didn't call anybody out here.

I really don't get what you were trying to say by quoting my post where I clearly stated that using the idea of sales as a personal justification on the worth of something else is stupid. I stand by what I said. A person is not stupid, the way they think can be though. However, I don't go around trying to tell others that their opinion is wrong and mine is right.
I leave that dry argument to the fanboys and zealots.

 

[Kvally]

I do love Britney though...she is HOT

 

[starseeker]

Okay.
I didn't call anybody out here.

I really don't get what you were trying to say by quoting my post where I clearly stated that using the idea of sales as a personal justification on the worth of something else is stupid. I stand by what I said. A person is not stupid, the way they think can be though. However, I don't go around trying to tell others that their opinion is wrong and mine is right.
I leave that dry argument to the fanboys and zealots.

I quoted your post, but I am not targeting you (should made it clear, my apology) . I just feel we do not need to label other people opinions as stupid, or other person as stupid (not saying you did, just saying we shouldn't) just because it is far from our opinions.

There is a lot of conflict here already, & I am merely suggesting a way to improve the spirit here. Using aggressive words usually makes matter worst.

In any case, by saying you think his opinion of using sales to determine if a console is better is stupid, is it different from saying you think his opinion is wrong, (not sure which sound worst, saying someone opinion is wrong or stupid)? Just a thought.

Like I said, once you started making a remark like 'Your idea is dumb', you can be fairly sure that there is no meaningful outcome of the rest of the conversation. Why can't we just tone it down, say something like 'I think this idea cannot work, heres why I say so...." for better harmony.

 

[DriedMangoes]

I quoted your post, but I am not targeting you (should made it clear, my apology) . I just feel we do not need to label other people opinions as stupid, or other person as stupid (not saying you did, just saying we shouldn't) just because it is far from your opinion.

There is a lot of conflict here already, & I am merely suggesting a way to improve the spirit here. Using aggressive words usually makes matter worst.

In any case, by saying you think his opinion of using sales to determine if a console is better is stupid, is it different from saying you think his opinion is wrong, (not sure which sound worst, saying someone opinion is wrong or stupid)? Just a thought.

Like I said, once you started making a remark like 'You idea is dumb', you can fairly sure that there is no meaningful outcome of the rest of the conversation. Why can't we just tone it down, say something like 'I think this idea cannot work, heres why I say so...."

Too many alpha personalities on the internet.

 

[Z A C K]

I honestly believe Astro stopped posting here because he was ahead of most of us as far as the technology in these consoles are concerned, and simply got tired of being gutted by amateurs. Most of us less than that. The majority of those who speak on the tech side of things are arm chair quarterbacks. Thats not a dig, but thats about the level of knowledge most of us contain on the subject. Cegar's kind of the same way. Notice he doesnt post here as much any more?

Im sure some will think my comment should be a bit more reserved but....there it is.

He was definitely a visionary.

 

[Ketto]

I don't think we can call delusional people visionaries and be honest about it. Astro didn't know what he was talking about 90% of the time. He made the same remedial arguments on Beyond3D to actual developers and engineers many who worked on the machines you guys are currently enjoying and he was laughed off the forums and had his posts picked apart. Then Seekar would repost what Astro said on here and TXB and they laughed at him even more.

The only people Astro ever fooled were people who already made up their minds about the systems regardless of the factual data present.

 

[ZombiesRUCrazy]

I don't think we can call delusional people visionaries and be honest about it. Astro didn't know what he was talking about 90% of the time. He made the same remedial arguments on Beyond3D to actual developers and engineers many who worked on the machines you guys are currently enjoying and he was laughed off the forums and had his posts picked apart. Then Seekar would repost what Astro said on here and TXB and they laughed at him even more.

The only people Astro ever fooled were people who already made up their minds about the systems regardless of the factual data present.

lulz, the seeker. He was a big poster on gametrailers last year. He went full Sony fan. I was totally blown away.

 

[Z A C K]

I don't think we can call delusional people visionaries and be honest about it. Astro didn't know what he was talking about 90% of the time. He made the same remedial arguments on Beyond3D to actual developers and engineers many who worked on the machines you guys are currently enjoying and he was laughed off the forums and had his posts picked apart. Then Seekar would repost what Astro said on here and TXB and they laughed at him even more.

The only people Astro ever fooled were people who already made up their minds about the systems regardless of the factual data present.

Pfft, you just didn't get it.

 

[Shawn Jelsic]

This is totally false.

Only reason I was quiet for a while was because I was banned for being a soar winner for proving UC4's unveiling was a crock.

It was worth it.

Or so u thought....

 

[The Living Tribunal]

I quoted your post, but I am not targeting you (should made it clear, my apology) . I just feel we do not need to label other people opinions as stupid, or other person as stupid (not saying you did, just saying we shouldn't) just because it is far from our opinions.

There is a lot of conflict here already, & I am merely suggesting a way to improve the spirit here. Using aggressive words usually makes matter worst.

In any case, by saying you think his opinion of using sales to determine if a console is better is stupid, is it different from saying you think his opinion is wrong, (not sure which sound worst, saying someone opinion is wrong or stupid)? Just a thought.

Like I said, once you started making a remark like 'Your idea is dumb', you can be fairly sure that there is no meaningful outcome of the rest of the conversation. Why can't we just tone it down, say something like 'I think this idea cannot work, heres why I say so...." for better harmony.

Okay. I get what you are saying.

 

[Ketto]

lulz, the seeker. He was a big poster on gametrailers last year. He went full Sony fan. I was totally blown away.

Real time ocean sailing man!

Pfft, you just didn't get it.

He was the scientist supreme of earth-616, we just didn't know it! I still remember he bet based on his "analysis" that XBO versions of ports would be 1080p60 while PS4 was at 720p30-900p30 because audio chips, gigabits, bandwidths and 12+4+2 CUs and reasons.

 

[Mcmasters]

I don't think we can call delusional people visionaries and be honest about it. Astro didn't know what he was talking about 90% of the time. He made the same remedial arguments on Beyond3D to actual developers and engineers many who worked on the machines you guys are currently enjoying and he was laughed off the forums and had his posts picked apart. Then Seekar would repost what Astro said on here and TXB and they laughed at him even more.

The only people Astro ever fooled were people who already made up their minds about the systems regardless of the factual data present.

Sounds like you got a bit of haterism in your game, Ketto!

 

[The Living Tribunal]

He was the scientist supreme of earth-616,...

LOL Doctor Strange pseudo reference.

 

[jimmyD]

He was the scientist supreme of earth-616, we just didn't know it! I still remember he bet based on his "analysis" that XBO versions of ports would be 1080p60 while PS4 was at 720p30-900p30 because audio chips, gigabits, bandwidths and 12+4+2 CUs and reasons.

 

[Ketto]

LOL Doctor Strange pseudo reference.

*nods*

Though, Scientist Supreme is an actual title. Currently belongs to Hank Pym, but I'm thinking Astro just might take it this year.

Great movie, 22 Jump Street was just as good if not better (Schmidt is f***ing the captain's daughter!)

Sounds like you got a bit of haterism in your game, Ketto!

Totes, I tend to hate people who take advantage of impressionable youth with false information and bulls***.

 

[Shawn Jelsic]

A wall of text with a hollow shell. This is the best way to describe astro.

Looking at both competitor's camera peripherals today, you can clearly see the different paths the two competitors have taken once you fast forward to 2015 -- quite different from his 2012 debate. Its sad that a competitor's pedigree is never enough to draw a logical outcome. But by actually SEEing the results, that's when that other side of the cerebral begans to fire off.