No matter how many times you say the power is only on paper, you'd still be wrong. The top 2 games are visually better on ps4. Ps4 is better on paper, and it's been proven in real world application.
Substance Engine shows PS4 CPU performing better than Xbox One's
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Yes. Agreed.
Yet, how many who bought any of the 3rd party launch games watched the comparison videos on DF? (most are the hardcore crowd/early adopters) How many are as hardcore as those who dwell within the forums? Soon enough the numbers will properly display how many care about these slight differences and how many just care about the overall experience. Won't be too long before the hardcore Sony crowd will scream from the roof tops about how casuals aren't as informed as they are, and that will be the excuse as to why the XO is the leading platform. I'd place a healthy wager on that one bud...
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It doesn't matter....fact still remains, the PS4 is more powerful. Hiding that fact under petty SOny attacks doesn't change that. We're already seeing that possibly PS4 have sold more. We're already seeing more people playing BF4 on PS4 than on XB1, and even before this gen's release, we already saw CoD closing the gap between PS3/360 players.
Won't be too long that we'll see how much better PS4 is doing, especially once word of mouth continues to spread about how multiplats (which are the best selling games) tend to be better on PS4.
Seriously, XB1 has Ryse, a game that probably didn't even sell 1 million, Halo, a game that continues to go downhill and lose popularity, and Titanfall, a game that is untested as a powerhouse right now. All the while, Sony continues to establish itself as the console that has better exclusives. Now, on top of exclusives, better multiplats and lowered price....epic times ahead.
Xbox One launched with more or less better exclusives as far as gameplay goes. Ryse looks really good but I still give the technical nod to Killzone. Ryse has better motion capture especially in facial animations. Forza is a great racing game, KI is a decent casual fighting game, DR3 is fun if you don't mind the technical hiccups.
PS4 has the advantage of better running multiplats but they need to shore up their exclusives. Infamous 2nd son and driveclub had better be great.
PS4 has the advantage of better running multiplats but they need to shore up their exclusives. Infamous 2nd son and driveclub had better be great.
Yes, indeed it would be interesting to see some software sales number for December. PS4 sold more software than the Xbox One in November and even selling more than the Xbox One counterparts on most multiplatform titles. Wonder if that will continue throughout the year.
Says no one's hurt.
Takes a childish jab using months old, long since proven wrong BS. The PS4 is more powerful, both on paper and in real life operation, it's as simple as that.
And your comments about non-gaming "journalists" praising the XB1? That's about as relevant to this discussion as gaming "journalists" chiming in about politics, music and space travel.
Yeah, keep pretending McMatester, you're only fooling yourself. The rest of us read your posts, we watch you get all emo over this sh!t and watch you firmly plant your lips on the backside of ANYONE that spews techno-babble in an attempt to explain why the PS4 really isn't more powerful.
Both of which also happens to be better on PS4. So now the PS4 has the best console versions of both huge FPS franchises and a better than average (I haven't played KZ, I'm going by what I've read here and elsewhere) sci-fi FPS.
Which exclusive FPS does XB1 have again?
Condemned is the first and only game that freaked me out so bad I literally said "Fvck this! I'm DONE for the night!", stood up and turned it off, didn't care about lost progress from not saving, I was done.
It involved mannequins.
What they say and what they do are two different things, see last summers reversal on pretty much EVERY feature the XB1 was announced with.
True enough, but I honestly think the pedigree will sell the game then word of mouth will cause it to be a huge hit. Hell, all they need to do is nail that tight, fast gunplay COD is famous for and make the additions (wall runs, mech combat) even half as fun as the gunplay and they'll have a hit on their hands.
COD4 huge? Almost certainly not, but I wouldn't say it's impossible.
The last two generations have shown that when it comes to exclusive titles we really have nothing to fear when buying a Sony platform. That could change but I highly doubt it.
Your opinion would hold a bit more weight IF it weren't for the XO selling like hotcakes, even with the higher price tag. What your not admitting to is that the XO offers much, much more than a gaming platform. It offers a unique aspect for entertainment all together. These features cater to more than just gamers without leaving gamers feeling empty handed or out in the cold. Its a viable option for entertainment all together. There are more casuals than there are hardcore gamers. Not to mention gamers like to do much more than just play games. The Ps4 just doesnt offer entertainment as a service and that, I believe, is its Achilles Heel. It still treats gaming as a hobby where as its competitor offers services that includes games: a much broader approach. JMHO. Dont get all wounded knee on me. Keep it civil.
Im going to say this to you once and once only Idle. Im not insulting anyone and I demand the same respect. If you cant continue this conversation as a civilized, opinionated individual, I'll place you on ignore and be done with it. Im sick of the internet tough guy crap (most of you amount to squat as a threat in the real world). And even if the mods allow name calling, I still have the option of the ignore feature. I simply wont put up with it. End of story. Get it together mate. Seriously.
Mods, my sincerest apologies. Im just sick of the internet tough guys who talk big. Cant even have a civilized discussion without the insults. Its revolting.
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It sold out its 1st few weeks which was a given, its a new console and the holiday season. What will be interesting is how it sells in January and beyond.
Well I guess there is only two of the most anticipated FPS's inside of the next year headed to the Xbone. Only that.
Don't feel bad for us, we brought this on ourselves.
I could but I already am on people's s*** list for far less, you can read their posts in the X1 thread, part 1 not part 2.
LOL. Sony fans are a laugh.
Last gen (we can finally call it that now) it was about exclusives and first party games despite 360 having solid first partiy games too and most multiplats better (often noticeably better with CoD, Bethesda and Bioware games being stand outs). X1 has better ones right now (Knack and KZ are meh), but somehow that's ignored. But but but....
....PS4 is so much more powerful. Yet X1 has better games at this point. And that's not even including all the snapping and Kinect integration which are bonus. Ryse is the best looking game right now and it's only 900p and not even a first party game. The handful of PS4 games at a better resolution than X1 don't result in a huge difference in visuals or gameplay. It's not like the 360/PS3 comparisons back in 2006-2008 where 360 had a big edge in both visuals and gameplay, or even later in their cycles when Skyrim could barely run on PS3 and had freezes and lockups and needed a huge patch.
It just kills Sony fans when the shoe is on the other foot and the exact same defence strategies are put in their face for fun. And that PS4 isn't "blowing away X1 in specs and sales" as they thought.
Pro tip: Don't get hyped up on marketing schtick.
Personally, I care about solid games and both systems are early in their cycles with hardly any games out for them right now (early adopters), but by just posting the following just shows how emotional they get and how they change tune.
Sony gamer: PS4 has better multiplats now, so it will continue (though 360 had better MPs than PS3)
Sony gamer: PS4 will have better first party games and exclusives, just wait (though X1 has them now).
Take your pick. Past or present. LOL. For fun, I can say the same..... X1 will have better MPs since history says so, and given the current launch trend first party and exclusives will be better too. See? Easy to say. LOL
Just go to metacritic and compare key exclusives both companies were promoting all year. There's DR3, F5, KI, Ryse, Knack, KZ to compare. X1 is better. And that's despite KZ being the highest profile and budgeted game on that list. And it's first party.
For multiplats, there's EA Sports, AC4, BF4, CoD, NFS, NBA 2k14 and probably a few more I missed. Depending on the game, one system will be ahead or down by a few points. It's not like 360/PS3 where the 360 game was so much better in the early cycle it would get noticeably better ratings. Feel free to compare... I'll start it off with two high profile games that are both at the top of their ratings charts....
FIFA 14
X1 88
PS4 87
NBA 2k14
X1 87
PS4 85
Feel free to continue the comparison Sony gamers. I'm interested to see the PS4 blowing away X1 in the other games.
Last gen (we can finally call it that now) it was about exclusives and first party games despite 360 having solid first partiy games too and most multiplats better (often noticeably better with CoD, Bethesda and Bioware games being stand outs). X1 has better ones right now (Knack and KZ are meh), but somehow that's ignored. But but but....
....PS4 is so much more powerful. Yet X1 has better games at this point. And that's not even including all the snapping and Kinect integration which are bonus. Ryse is the best looking game right now and it's only 900p and not even a first party game. The handful of PS4 games at a better resolution than X1 don't result in a huge difference in visuals or gameplay. It's not like the 360/PS3 comparisons back in 2006-2008 where 360 had a big edge in both visuals and gameplay, or even later in their cycles when Skyrim could barely run on PS3 and had freezes and lockups and needed a huge patch.
It just kills Sony fans when the shoe is on the other foot and the exact same defence strategies are put in their face for fun. And that PS4 isn't "blowing away X1 in specs and sales" as they thought.
Pro tip: Don't get hyped up on marketing schtick.
Personally, I care about solid games and both systems are early in their cycles with hardly any games out for them right now (early adopters), but by just posting the following just shows how emotional they get and how they change tune.
Sony gamer: PS4 has better multiplats now, so it will continue (though 360 had better MPs than PS3)
Sony gamer: PS4 will have better first party games and exclusives, just wait (though X1 has them now).
Take your pick. Past or present. LOL. For fun, I can say the same..... X1 will have better MPs since history says so, and given the current launch trend first party and exclusives will be better too. See? Easy to say. LOL
Just go to metacritic and compare key exclusives both companies were promoting all year. There's DR3, F5, KI, Ryse, Knack, KZ to compare. X1 is better. And that's despite KZ being the highest profile and budgeted game on that list. And it's first party.
For multiplats, there's EA Sports, AC4, BF4, CoD, NFS, NBA 2k14 and probably a few more I missed. Depending on the game, one system will be ahead or down by a few points. It's not like 360/PS3 where the 360 game was so much better in the early cycle it would get noticeably better ratings. Feel free to compare... I'll start it off with two high profile games that are both at the top of their ratings charts....
FIFA 14
X1 88
PS4 87
NBA 2k14
X1 87
PS4 85
Feel free to continue the comparison Sony gamers. I'm interested to see the PS4 blowing away X1 in the other games.
Well your post was about Xbone sales so there was really nothing to fix in my response. But yeah it will be interesting how sales shape up for both consoles.
They have them now?
Well I guess there is only two of the most anticipated FPS's inside of the next year headed to the Xbone. Only that.
Don't feel bad for us, we brought this on ourselves.
aww man I didn't know you were part of the "WE"
Whole argument is academic... The PS4's popularity is not enough to suppress the X1 sales. Should be /thread on that point alone.
Sony CAN NOT survive another console generation where they are not totally dominant. They just fired their COO of North America, because of the PS4's failure to dominate. The smart money is pulling their money out of Sony finances (see ~many~ finance articles about it now...) It is only a matter of time.
In the next year you will see Sony s*** can the Vita, because it is a FAILURE, and to put their dwindling resources behind the PS4. The PS4 WILL NOT make profits in time to save the company.
Everything else is irrelevant...
Sony CAN NOT survive another console generation where they are not totally dominant. They just fired their COO of North America, because of the PS4's failure to dominate. The smart money is pulling their money out of Sony finances (see ~many~ finance articles about it now...) It is only a matter of time.
In the next year you will see Sony s*** can the Vita, because it is a FAILURE, and to put their dwindling resources behind the PS4. The PS4 WILL NOT make profits in time to save the company.
Everything else is irrelevant...
Thanks for the link. Xbox One (Won).
Multiplats listed:
FIFA 14
X1 88
PS4 87
NBA 2k14
X1 87
PS4 85
NFS
X1 75
PS4 80
CoD
X1 78
PS4 78
Madden 25
X1 73
PS4 73
Highly promoted exclusives:
Forza 5 80
DR 3 78
KI 73
Ryse 61
Killzone SF 74
Knack 55 (which he purposely cut off the list)
The last Blackberry got AMAZING reviews right before the company went tits up...
lol, seriously. I thought I already read that post on another page.
Yoyoniner already posted the two pics showing the metacritic scores of both the PS4 and Xbox One.
Just going through quickly, I count 7 PS exclusives > 75 score (green colour) while Xbox One only has 3 > 75. So going by metacritic (like you wanted to), there seems to be more "solid" titles on the PS4 than Xbox One?
Guess that means the console war is over and Sony has officially won. Man your Target holds a lot of juice this gen. And am I the only one who finds it strange that you went out of you way to check on the One's stock two days in a row verifying with the clerk that the 7 (lol you counted) are the same from the day before. Dude, you need to rent some poon or at least order a flesh light cause you son gots too much time (and gentleman's relish) on your hands.
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