Substance Engine shows PS4 CPU performing better than Xbox One's

[Intellivision]

Reviews say otherwise

No worries Valliance. You've been hard on your past "PS3 has the best scores! Go compare exclusives on metacritic", but I can understand why you are acting like Knack and KZ SF don't exist.

We can all have fun and agree or disagree on this forum for kicks, but just a tip for you..... don't fall for all the marketing hype. All those sales polls are a good example. Just sit back, relax and check things out for yourself.

 

[consolewarz]

It's clinging to supply constrained sales while it can, cute.

 

[TeKPhaN]

No worries Valliance. You've been hard on your past "PS3 has the best scores! Go compare exclusives on metacritic", but I can understand why you are acting like Knack and KZ SF don't exist.

We can all have fun and agree or disagree on this forum for kicks, but just a tip for you..... don't fall for all the marketing hype. All those sales polls are a good example. Just sit back, relax and check things out for yourself.

PS3 raped the 360 when comparing exclusive game scores and the amount of GOTY awards it got.
I told people knack sucked before it even was reviewed as I played it.
KZSF got a above average rating just like Dead Rising 3 and I like it so I am not sure what your attempted point is?
PS4 has a dud in knack and X1 has a dud in Ryse and I don't think I saw more marketing hype for any other launch game between the two lolz. Still not sure what your point is?

 

[pravus]

The discussion involved launch titles, but okay, I'll bite.

I assume you mean Titanfall and Halo 5?

So cool, you'll have one not-exactly-exclusive "exclusive" FPS in Titanfall and a not nearly as popular as it was 10+ years ago FPS exclusive. Don't get me wrong, Halo 5 WILL sell consoles, that's a given, but it's hardly going to set the world on fire.

Still, Halo is much, much, muuuuuuch better than COD, so you have that.

Halo on it's worst day will do better than KZ in almost any metric.

I wouldn't be surprised if Titanfall does better than KZ as well, I don't think anyone here would be shocked either.

I wasn't reading the convo, so I didn't realize you were talking only launch stuff, but that aspect is something that I don't think anyone will ever have an issue with on Xbox or ever worry about. We get every relevant FPS and the best exclusive shooters. Glad to see they tried to expand their genre's so far though, a rushed 1st party FPS disaster like PDZ would've steered a lot of people away.

They have them now?

aww man I didn't know you were part of the "WE"

"We" as in Xbox One owners. No legion bs.

 

[Flynn]

Really? Are Xbox fans still holding onto this belief that developers will figure out ways to make the XB1 perform better while the PS4 will remain stagnant in that regard?

Hate to burst your bubble (okay, I don't, I actually LOVE it) but developers WILL figure out ways to squeeze more performance out of the XB1.

Just as they will with the PS4.



Fact: Sony first parties delivered more critically and user acclaimed titles than MS did for the past 13 years.

Fact: That trend will continue.

1. Never claimed PS4 wouldn't advance as well. Straw man.

2. Your second fact isn't a fact. It's speculation.

3. Your first 'fact' needs proof. I'm not sure I believe it.

Besides, as much praise as Uncharted has been given, it's really only good one time through, and the MP stinks. God of War, same. Heavy Rain - gorgeous, but shallow and limited to SP. Sony has done very well with single player, linear/shallow epics... But I'd take Halo or Gears over those any day.

Gears introduced "Horde" mode to the gaming world, and now everyone's copying... Why? Because it rocks. I still play Gears Horde mode frequently with friends. Halo's MP is world class, and the SP with co-op has incredible re-play value.

Then there's Forza vs. GT. No comparison, Forza easily beats GT for virtually everything. The only edge I'd give Polyphony is in art style... GT definitely has a more photo realistic art style (which I prefer)...

Long story short, I'd take MS's exclusives over Sony's any day ... They have FAR more replay value, and give WAY more gaming for your dollar... Plus, they're far more innovative.

So far this Gen, Microsoft has Sony bested on exclusives by a wide margin...

 

[Flynn]

I never said that ;3

I was talking about launch games. People seem to think sony won't release any more games. Xbox fanboys seem to think that killzone and knack is all sony will have for the life of the system. Evident by the fact that so many bring up the fact that xb1 has more exclusives at launch.

Why would you assume that?

I bring up Sony's lacking list of quality launch exclusives because I think that's a clear area where we beat them... I think our lineup was way better, and of course I like to point that out... But I don't think (therefore) Sony won't have any good games... So it's not a claim which speaks to the future - it's a claim which speaks to the present.

 

[mrtapout]

Xbox has poor price/performance in terms of gaming graphics. It would need to be $300 to have the same TF price/performance as PS4. Or for the same $500 you can get a Steambox with an R270 with more than twice the TF.

This logic is flawed considering the X1 is not a graphics card, but rather a complete system with kinect. Simply put, there is no item you can buy out there that does everything that X1 does, for its price point. Graphically speaking, PS4 has not produced a title that looks better than what x1 is currently outputting, and out of a bunch of multipats, only 3 have major disparity, something which could be blamed on the limited experience and timeframes for release both consoles had to work with.

Besides, I'd rather have the system that has the best games, and right now, x1 is easily that system.

 

[smooth3d]

Xbox has poor price/performance in terms of gaming graphics. It would need to be $300 to have the same TF price/performance as PS4. Or for the same $500 you can get a Steambox with an R270 with more than twice the TF.

I disagree, Its not all about graphics as long as its nice enough to enjoy the game. It's about experiences and to me the X1 gives me a better overall experience. So it was worth $500 to me and many others.

 

[Larry]

Same people, same arguments. The only thing that's different is the topic being argued in.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

What a clusterf***...
Also....why are people comparing the Xb1 to a steambox....which DOES NOT do everything the Xb1 does??
Oh yeah...thats right. Trolling.

Intelli you need to just quit the fight. It has started to approach Astro levels of stupidity.

LOL @ Steambox > Xb1 graphically so that means it is a better value...LOL

Hey guys....my Ferrari is faster than a Honda Civic so it is a better value..
Fail logic.

 

[Andy]

Same people, same arguments. The only thing that's different is the topic being argued in.

Yup. This thread is like a jeep stuck in the mud, spinning its wheels, with the same guys on board. Lots of noise and yelling, but no progress, and nothing but a big mess being created.