The Dark Below Stories and Impressions

Giving an alternate means to increase light level is game breaking? Come on, stop with the drama. The raid still gives the best loot. So have at it if you can. But for many of us who can’t or haven’t been able to participate in the raids adding in another way to get some great loot is a good thing. But this in no way takes away from others experience. You still get to use your shiny raid gear so stop worrying about what others are getting and viewing these items as some sort of status symbol.

According to Bungie’s website I’ve put in over 185 hours in this game. Out of all that gaming I’ve only been able to play the raid 8 times but only received one item of note and that was the Confluence scout rifle. Almost 200 hours invested in the game and yet the content with the highest rewards has been essentially locked out to me because of the lack of matchmaking. Its Bungie’s fault for not adding that in so direct any disappointment at them. They had to do something for so many of us who can’t raid because of their game’s shortcomings.

Ohh and I’ll repeat. Getting the better gear that will be offered tomorrow will take longer than running a raid. A reputation level will have to be gained to purchase these items. You need 2500 points to reach another reputation level and bounties can only help but so much. So we are talking about days of gaming just to acquire a reputation level and don't forget about the cap on marks earned for each week.
 
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There should be more than one way to get final rank and they should offer the same but different challenge. Grinding out for Rank/Marks is a challenge that is also a huge grind. It is more fun to play the raid but you have to do it a few times to reap some rewards but each time is fun!

I don't agree that people should sit on a high horse and judge other players. WHO gives a turd. Go play and shut the front door about it.
 
You also have to think about how this game will be played a year from now. What happens when there's much less people playing? There has to be other options in obtaining level 30+.
 
Giving an alternate means to increase light level is game breaking? Come on, stop with the drama. The raid still gives the best loot. So have at it if you can. But for many of us who can’t or haven’t been able to participate in the raids adding in another way to get some great loot is a good thing. But this in no way takes away from others experience. You still get to use your shiny raid gear so stop worrying about what others are getting and viewing these items as some sort of status symbol.

According to Bungie’s website I’ve put in over 185 hours in this game. Out of all that gaming I’ve only been able to play the raid 8 times but only received one item of note and that was the Confluence scout rifle. Almost 200 hours invested in the game and yet the content with the highest rewards has been essentially locked out to me because of the lack of matchmaking. Its Bungie’s fault for not adding that in so direct any disappointment at them. They had to do something for so many of us who can’t raid because of their game’s shortcomings.

Ohh and I’ll repeat. Getting the better gear that will be offered tomorrow will take longer than running a raid. A reputation level will have to be gained to purchase these items. You need 2500 points to reach another reputation level and bounties can only help but so much. So we are talking about days of gaming just to acquire a reputation level and don't forget about the cap on marks earned for each week.
Raid more
 
If you have full leveled up weapons you will be fine on the Hard Raid with me :)

I have a couple weapons maxed out like the Icebreaker, Confluence rifle and a few others. I've never done the raid on hard difficulty. But my few experiences with it on normal leads me to believe its quite the challenge. I guess that's why the loot is so juicy.
 
Out of all that gaming I’ve only been able to play the raid 8 times but only received one item of note and that was the Confluence scout rifle. Almost 200 hours invested in the game and yet the content with the highest rewards has been essentially locked out to me because of the lack of matchmaking. Its Bungie’s fault for not adding that in so direct any disappointment at them. They had to do something for so many of us who can’t raid because of their game’s shortcomings.

That's my problem with it. It doesn't sound like the reward is there. If I go to all that trouble to manually find people and spend hours on a raid and not get anything big out of it I'd be furious.
 
That's my problem with it. It doesn't sound like the reward is there. If I go to all that trouble to manually find people and spend hours on a raid and not get anything big out of it I'd be furious.

Coming with the dlc is a fix where the game tracks how long its been since you got anything and what you got. These things (in theory) should prevent those wasted efforts so many of us experienced with the raid. But we will have to see for ourselves.
 
I have a couple weapons maxed out like the Icebreaker, Confluence rifle and a few others. I've never done the raid on hard difficulty. But my few experiences with it on normal leads me to believe its quite the challenge. I guess that's why the loot is so juicy.
All you need to dominate the raid and come in top of kills is a good hand cannon, you can buy the devil from the vanguard, one of the best ones in the game untill you get the fatebringer, ice breaker for your sniper, and a good rocket launcher. those 3 basic weapons will do you just fine. I can not speak for the dlc raid but will know after tomorrow. Then you just need to learn the basic stradigys and most important how to use the relic effectively. You tube is your friend for that unless you play with a group of guys that can teach you.
 
Never sure why gamers feel the need to whine about how other people play the same game. There should be multiple ways to level up your character. I pretty much never play crucible. That doesn't mean I think those guys shouldn't get rewarded for doing so.
 
All you need to dominate the raid and come in top of kills is a good hand cannon, you can buy the devil from the vanguard, one of the best ones in the game untill you get the fatebringer, ice breaker for your sniper, and a good rocket launcher. those 3 basic weapons will do you just fine. I can not speak for the dlc raid but will know after tomorrow. Then you just need to learn the basic stradigys and most important how to use the relic effectively. You tube is your friend for that unless you play with a group of guys that can teach you.

I don't have The Devil You Know but do have the Lord High Fixer, Hawkmoon and Last Word Hand cannons. Also have the Icebreaker, 77 Wizard fusion rifle with void damage and a couple void rocker launchers. I just never tried the raid on hard and others have said that weapons need to have damage maxed out to stand a chance. With the DLC increasing our levels I hope once I finally get past lvl29 that I will be able to get a couple hard raids completed and get some of the really good loot I've missed out on so far.

It sucks that Bungie increased the level cap for missions to lvl30 while removing the lvl28 option. Now it jumps from lvl26 to lvl30. Nightfall is probably going to be even harder now with the payoff being the same. :sad:
 
I don't have The Devil You Know but do have the Lord High Fixer, Hawkmoon and Last Word Hand cannons. Also have the Icebreaker, 77 Wizard fusion rifle with void damage and a couple void rocker launchers. I just never tried the raid on hard and others have said that weapons need to have damage maxed out to stand a chance. With the DLC increasing our levels I hope once I finally get past lvl29 that I will be able to get a couple hard raids completed and get some of the really good loot I've missed out on so far.

It sucks that Bungie increased the level cap for missions to lvl30 while removing the lvl28 option. Now it jumps from lvl26 to lvl30. Nightfall is probably going to be even harder now with the payoff being the same. :sad:
Yes. For hard . They need to be maxed. Which is easy to do now that you can turn in 10 bounties.. I like the devil and of course the fatebringer because they hold the most rounds and the fate bringer has a perk for instant reload on precision shots . Which comes in handy when your getting rushed . My typical setup is either fate bringer/ devil. Icebreaker or the raid sniper and unfriendly giant launcher or the raid rocket launcher .
 
Yes. For hard . They need to be maxed. Which is easy to do now that you can turn in 10 bounties.. I like the devil and of course the fatebringer because they hold the most rounds and the fate bringer has a perk for instant reload on precision shots . Which comes in handy when your getting rushed . My typical setup is either fate bringer/ devil. Icebreaker or the raid sniper and unfriendly giant launcher or the raid rocket launcher .

Thanks for the tips. You and others demonstrate why Bungie's decision to not include matchmaking for everything is more baffling. Guys like you Mangoes, Valliance are a small example that show how cool the Destiny community can be. Matchmaking would promote more social interaction within the Destiny community with the exchange of tips and ideas on how to complete the many challenges the game throws your way.
 
Thanks for the tips. You and others demonstrate why Bungie's decision to not include matchmaking for everything is more baffling. Guys like you Mangoes, Valliance are a small example that show how cool the Destiny community can be. Matchmaking would promote more social interaction within the Destiny community with the exchange of tips and ideas on how to complete the many challenges the game throws your way.
What platform do you play on ?
 
I don't have The Devil You Know but do have the Lord High Fixer, Hawkmoon and Last Word Hand cannons. Also have the Icebreaker, 77 Wizard fusion rifle with void damage and a couple void rocker launchers. I just never tried the raid on hard and others have said that weapons need to have damage maxed out to stand a chance. With the DLC increasing our levels I hope once I finally get past lvl29 that I will be able to get a couple hard raids completed and get some of the really good loot I've missed out on so far.

It sucks that Bungie increased the level cap for missions to lvl30 while removing the lvl28 option. Now it jumps from lvl26 to lvl30. Nightfall is probably going to be even harder now with the payoff being the same. :sad:
Your scout rifle>hand cannons for the raid IMO.
You got the vision maxed and ice breaker maxed that's good.
I agree with having a RL or a nice lmg.
 
Anyone know how many missions there are in the DLC? I'm still on the fence. I'm not sure if it is worth it for me as I'm not even level 20 yet (I finished the story and am at 19).

Am I going to find better loot with the DLC even if I don't do the raid? (at least for awhile, need to level up obviously)
 
Polygon are reporting that the new raid has already been beaten and Bungie will be announcing the stats later on
 
Anyone know how many missions there are in the DLC? I'm still on the fence. I'm not sure if it is worth it for me as I'm not even level 20 yet (I finished the story and am at 19).

Am I going to find better loot with the DLC even if I don't do the raid? (at least for awhile, need to level up obviously)

Personally I don't think it's good value on paper but I got it through the family share so I'll be trying it later. Maybe it's more than the sum of its parts. I think it's 3 or 4 story missions and a strike and raid with some multiplayer maps. Ps4 brethren get an extra strike. And maybe an extra gun or something
 
Your scout rifle>hand cannons for the raid IMO.
You got the vision maxed and ice breaker maxed that's good.
I agree with having a RL or a nice lmg.
You have to have a good launcher for the gate keepers . With my group on hard we run both portals at the same time. I do the right side Venus solo. I can drop the gate keepr with three rockets then grab the relic and meet everyone in the middle. We have the system down pat. The truth and the raid launcher do well for me . Out of all the raids I have run, no galahorn . Ugh.
 
You have to have a good launcher for the gate keepers . With my group on hard we run both portals at the same time. I do the right side Venus solo. I can drop the gate keepr with three rockets then grab the relic and meet everyone in the middle. We have the system down pat. The truth and the raid launcher do well for me . Out of all the raids I have run, no galahorn . Ugh.

No gjawhore for me either :(
 
Anyone know how many missions there are in the DLC? I'm still on the fence. I'm not sure if it is worth it for me as I'm not even level 20 yet (I finished the story and am at 19).

Am I going to find better loot with the DLC even if I don't do the raid? (at least for awhile, need to level up obviously)

You have 3 missions, 1 extra strike, 3 extra crucible maps for the DLC. PS4 gets one extra strike, one extra exotic shotgun.

The new missions and strike are pretty fun actually. Haven't tried the crucible maps yet.

I'm looking for 2 more 30's to do the nightfall right now with arc dmg weapons. :D